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From: Daniel Cohen on 19 Dec 2009 07:34 Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > In article <1jay2ba.1o6fv5jo3l41tN%dcohenspam(a)talktalk.net>, > dcohenspam(a)talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) wrote: > > > > Agreed. As I (and others) have said elsewhere in the thread, if there > > are any problems it might be difficult to tell if it was the enclosure > > or the drive if they were bought separately, while no such issue arises > > with a manufacturer's drive while it is still under warranty. > > Oh please. I have yet to be unable to tell whether a problem I have had > was being caused by the enclosure or the hard drive itself. But you are assuming that those who post on this group (let alone those who might just be advised by people on the group) have the relevant knowledge and experience, which you clearly have. Plenty posts (on other topics) in the group make it clear that posters may be inexperienced. For all I know it is very easy to determine the cause of such problems. But I've not had to do it so far (hope this lasts!) and I have no idea if I could work it out without some form of detailed troubleshooting guidance. For the record, I've bought several hard drives already in their enclosure. I've also installed one hard drive and one DVD recorder into enclosures. That was easy to do, as there were detailed instructions with the enclosure. -- <http://www.decohen.com> Send e-mail to the Reply-To address. Mail to the From address is never read.
From: M-M on 19 Dec 2009 08:51 In article <jollyroger-FE26F1.10375218122009(a)news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > I > can't say enough good things about the Firewire version of OWC's Mercury > On-the-Go 2.5" series: I tried one of those and it got so hot I could not touch it, then it failed the first day I owned it. I had to argue with customer service to not charge a restocking fee. Then I bought a Lacie Little Disk USB and it is silent, not hot at all and faster. -- m-m http://www.mhmyers.com
From: Jolly Roger on 19 Dec 2009 10:43 In article <nospam.m-m-1629A8.08512219122009(a)cpe-76-190-186-198.neo.res.rr.com>, M-M <nospam.m-m(a)ny.more> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-FE26F1.10375218122009(a)news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > I > > can't say enough good things about the Firewire version of OWC's Mercury > > On-the-Go 2.5" series: > > I tried one of those and it got so hot I could not touch it, then it > failed the first day I owned it. The aluminum heat sink on the bottom of the enclosure is there to pull heat away from the hard drive. That's its purpose. So the fact that it gets warm shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. The little rubber feet on the bottom of the unit ensure the hot heat sink surface won't contact anything. So if you are feeling around on the bottom of the unit, it sounds like you must be looking for a problem. Because I chose to put a fast 7200 RPM drive in one of mine, it gets rather warm when the disk is in constant use, but is not "so hot I could not touch it". I've owned hard drives that get so hot you can't touch them, and this is nowhere near that hot. If you were surprised by the amount of heat generated by a hard drive, perhaps you should have chosen a better hard drive, since that's what generates heat. ; ) I'm curious: What hard drive did you put in it? Was it the hard drive that failed, or the enclosure? > I had to argue with customer service to not charge a restocking fee. Could that be because they were worried the thing wasn't actually defective and you were just complaining about it being "too hot"? > Then I bought a Lacie Little Disk USB and it is silent, not hot at all > and faster. That Lacie "Little" Disk USB is bigger and clunkier. <http://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?pid=10982> You don't get a choice of the hard drive make, model, and speed that comes with the Lacie "Little" Disk USB - only the capacity. I think there's a reason LaCie doesn't list the drive specifications on the web page. I would be willing to bet you it comes with a slower 5400 RPM drive, as opposed to a faster 7200 RPM drive. That would explain why it generates less heat as well. 5400 RPM hard drives are generally much slower than equivalent 7200 RPM drives. Also the Lacie "Little" Disk USB is USB-only. Was the OWC enclosure you tried a Firewire model? There's no way a USB 2 enclosure would give fast transfer speeds than a Firewire 800 enclosure. Again, I won't use a bus-powered USB enclosure. I've been bitten by low-power USB ports corrupting data on a drive, and I'm avoiding that by sticking with the more powerful Firewire bus. The enclosures I buy now have *both* USB and Firewire. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Jolly Roger on 19 Dec 2009 10:44 In article <1jayqv8.ps3n9y198cd6xN%dcohenspam(a)talktalk.net>, dcohenspam(a)talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) wrote: > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > In article <1jay2ba.1o6fv5jo3l41tN%dcohenspam(a)talktalk.net>, > > dcohenspam(a)talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) wrote: > > > > > > > Agreed. As I (and others) have said elsewhere in the thread, if there > > > are any problems it might be difficult to tell if it was the enclosure > > > or the drive if they were bought separately, while no such issue arises > > > with a manufacturer's drive while it is still under warranty. > > > > Oh please. I have yet to be unable to tell whether a problem I have had > > was being caused by the enclosure or the hard drive itself. > > But you are assuming that those who post on this group (let alone those > who might just be advised by people on the group) have the relevant > knowledge and experience, which you clearly have. Plenty posts (on other > topics) in the group make it clear that posters may be inexperienced. > > For all I know it is very easy to determine the cause of such problems. > But I've not had to do it so far (hope this lasts!) and I have no idea > if I could work it out without some form of detailed troubleshooting > guidance. I suppose you're right about that. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Jolly Roger on 19 Dec 2009 10:46
In article <1jayqob.1v5ekk210m0e55N%dcohenspam(a)talktalk.net>, dcohenspam(a)talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) wrote: > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > In article <1jay228.1b7hnm917gyvuoN%dcohenspam(a)talktalk.net>, > > dcohenspam(a)talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) wrote: > > > > > > > You could be right, but most Macs don't have room for a second internal > > > hard drive, and I doubt if one would want to run adrive without any > > > enclosure. > > > > Why is replacing the internal drive not an option in your book? To me, > > it's the most attractive way to upgrade to more capacity. > > Not sure that I would want to do it on an iMac (2007 model IIRC). And > anyway, I prefer having additional drives. I'm the opposite. I prefer to have all of my capacity on one single volume - the startup volume. Things are just simpler with Mac OS X when the startup volume has all the space you need. For a backup disk, however, an external does seem preferable to me. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR |