Where is balance? -- Re: Academic priorities
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From: K Williams on 5 May 2005 14:48 In article <MPG.1ce429f9bff20fdd989a32(a)news.individual.net>, krw(a)att.bizzzz says... > In article <hmmk71l2cbsajhhcsgderet5qc4c8klocr(a)4ax.com>, > Brian.Inglis(a)SystematicSW.Invalid says... > > fOn Wed, 4 May 2005 12:23:16 -0400 in alt.folklore.computers, K > > Williams <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: > > > > >In article <d5a5rr$tms$1(a)osl016lin.hda.hydro.com>, > > >terje.mathisen(a)hda.hydro.com says... > > >> Casper H.S. Dik wrote: > > >> > =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Vorbr=FCggen?= <jvorbrueggen-not(a)mediasec.de> writes: > > >> > > > >> >>>A butter knife can take an eye out. > > >> > > > >> >>So can my fingers. How do I leave those at the reception desk? > > >> > > > >> > And spoons and forks can too. > > >> > > > >> > It's that I don't have much of an inclination to mess > > >> > with airport security, but whenever I fly KLM I get > > >> > a metal knife/fork/spoon. I wonder what would happen if > > >> > I take one out of the plane and then try to take it back > > >> > on the return trip. > > >> > > >> Stainless steel cutlery on all international flights to/from the US is > > >> of course nice, however it really doesn't matter at all when you > > >> consider that all airlines gladly sell you firebomb-making gear while > > >> onboard: > > >> > > >> High-proof Jamaica Rum, plus a regular (linen or cotton) napkin plus a > > >> match == Molotov cocktail, right? > > > > > >Matches are now banned on US flights. > > > > Thought it was lighters in carry on: but matches still allowed. Used > > to play with igniting things using batteries and wire wool as a kid. > > They don't seem to have banned those yet. > > Lighters have been banned for years (pre-911), from even checked > luggage. The match ban is relatively new (last month or so, I > believe). They were discussing banning matches, and I thought they had. Apparently the TSA is still thinking that one over, but has not acted yet. http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/2287035p-8665901c.html > > http://www.unitedstatesaction.com/air-banned-items.htm > -- Keith
From: Casper H.S. Dik on 5 May 2005 16:38 Norman Yarvin <norman.yarvin(a)snet.net> writes: >In article <d5a5rr$tms$1(a)osl016lin.hda.hydro.com>, >Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen(a)hda.hydro.com> wrote: >>Besides, who needs a sharp knife when a broken whiskey bottle is handy? >Me. Bottles are not as easy to break as the movies show; and once broken >they're liable to break further, likely shattering in the wielder's hand. And which part of a plane can you hit with a bottle that wouldn't break before the bottle breaks? Casper -- Expressed in this posting are my opinions. They are in no way related to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems. Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may be fiction rather than truth.
From: Casper H.S. Dik on 5 May 2005 16:54 Brian Inglis <Brian.Inglis(a)SystematicSW.Invalid> writes: >Thought it was lighters in carry on: but matches still allowed. Used >to play with igniting things using batteries and wire wool as a kid. >They don't seem to have banned those yet. The sign said: - no matches, lighters, ligher fluid in carry on *and* checked luggage. Casper -- Expressed in this posting are my opinions. They are in no way related to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems. Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may be fiction rather than truth.
From: Derek Lyons on 5 May 2005 17:46 "Bill Leary" <Bill_Leary(a)msn.com> wrote: >"Derek Lyons" <fairwater(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >news:4278a741.3022665(a)supernews.seanet.com... >> "Bill Leary" <Bill_Leary(a)msn.com> wrote: >> >> >> It sounds like you have >> >> done your children a great disservice. >> > >> >Maybe not. Upon graduation from "normal" high school, none >> >of my kids could do anything past basic math. And only one of >> >them reads well. >> >> So where were you during the 12 years prior? > >That's what they accomplished WITH a lot of help from me. > >And most of that was accomplished after we finally got them into specialized >courses the last couple of years of school. Doesn't sound like a problem with the school then. D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. -Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings. Oct 5th, 2004 JDL
From: Bill Leary on 5 May 2005 20:46
"Derek Lyons" <fairwater(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:427a9412.11975888(a)supernews.seanet.com... > "Bill Leary" <Bill_Leary(a)msn.com> wrote: > >> >Maybe not. Upon graduation from "normal" high school, none > >> >of my kids could do anything past basic math. And only one of > >> >them reads well. > >> > >> So where were you during the 12 years prior? > > > >That's what they accomplished WITH a lot of help from me. > > > >And most of that was accomplished after we finally got them into specialized > >courses the last couple of years of school. > > Doesn't sound like a problem with the school then. Consider that you're reading what amount to sound bites focused on specific points. The full picture, which wasn't relevant to the discussion at hand here, is rather different. Or, to put it another way; When you read one liners about it, no. When you're actually there, yes. The root problems were (1) the generic nature of the education system and (2) the overriding drive to keep each group of kids together. The very concept of "stay back" and even "do it again" (or anything similar) seems to have been deleted from the minds of everyone involved in education. As a result, the status reports I got weren't truly reflective of the progress the kids were (not) making. By the time I became aware of it, due to a disciplinary issue, it was really too late for the oldest one and remedial help only partially effective on the middle one. The third one has managed to hit honors a couple of times this year, but it's still a "catch up" situation. - Bill |