Where is balance? -- Re: Academic priorities
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From: Brian Inglis on 10 May 2005 11:40 On 10 May 2005 10:05:48 -0500 in comp.arch.arithmetic, hrubin(a)odds.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) wrote: >I do not have any documentation, but I do know of one case >where the threat of a suit got the penalties canceled in >one case. There was a diabetic boy, who kept a syringe >containing a single injection of glucagon in his desk. He >showed it to his friends, and told them how to use it and >when. > >One time in physical education, the teacher insisted the >boy continue when he said he felt low and needed to test. >When he fainted, and the teacher ignored it, one of his >friends rushed to his desk, took the syringe, went back >to the gym and gave him the injection. The school wanted >to expel the intelligent friend for violating ZT. When >the parents of the diabetic pointed out what they could >do to the school in court if they did it, the expulsion >was quickly dropped. Don't suppose the teacher was fired for irresponsible behaviour? -- Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada Brian.Inglis(a)CSi.com (Brian[dot]Inglis{at}SystematicSW[dot]ab[dot]ca) fake address use address above to reply
From: Kevin G. Rhoads on 10 May 2005 12:12 >I do not have any documentation, but I do know of one case >where the threat of a suit got the penalties canceled in >one case. There was a diabetic boy, who kept a syringe >containing a single injection of glucagon in his desk. He >showed it to his friends, and told them how to use it and >when. Another case, an asthmatic youngster who died because the emergency inhaler had to be kept in the nurse's office per ZT drug rules. Didn't prevent the school or the people from a wrongful death lawsuit. Why do innocents have to die to show these policies are stupid? And people still don't get it?
From: Sander Vesik on 10 May 2005 15:43 In comp.arch Kevin G. Rhoads <kgrhoads(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > >I do not have any documentation, but I do know of one case > >where the threat of a suit got the penalties canceled in > >one case. There was a diabetic boy, who kept a syringe > >containing a single injection of glucagon in his desk. He > >showed it to his friends, and told them how to use it and > >when. > > Another case, an asthmatic youngster who died because the emergency inhaler > had to be kept in the nurse's office per ZT drug rules. Didn't prevent > the school or the people from a wrongful death lawsuit. > > Why do innocents have to die to show these policies are stupid? And > people still don't get it? Because you have an inherently flawed legal system. The flaw is not in the school boards passing stupid and arbitrary regulations but in their ability to do so and in the very existence of the boards as they are now. -- Sander +++ Out of cheese error +++
From: Derek Lyons on 10 May 2005 16:36 "Bill Leary" <Bill_Leary(a)msn.com> wrote: >"Derek Lyons" <fairwater(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >news:427a9412.11975888(a)supernews.seanet.com... >> "Bill Leary" <Bill_Leary(a)msn.com> wrote: >> >> >Maybe not. Upon graduation from "normal" high school, none >> >> >of my kids could do anything past basic math. And only one of >> >> >them reads well. >> >> >> >> So where were you during the 12 years prior? >> > >> >That's what they accomplished WITH a lot of help from me. >> > >> >And most of that was accomplished after we finally got them into specialized >> >courses the last couple of years of school. >> >> Doesn't sound like a problem with the school then. > >Consider that you're reading what amount to sound bites focused on specific >points. The full picture, which wasn't relevant to the discussion at hand here, >is rather different. It certainly is relevant - because your sound bites are focused to be critical of the school system, yet in toto seem to point in a very different direction. >The root problems were (1) the generic nature of the education system and (2) >the overriding drive to keep each group of kids together. The very concept of >"stay back" and even "do it again" (or anything similar) seems to have been >deleted from the minds of everyone involved in education. As a result, the >status reports I got weren't truly reflective of the progress the kids were >(not) making. Which brings up the question I originally asked - where were you all that time? >By the time I became aware of it, due to a disciplinary issue, it >was really too late for the oldest one and remedial help only partially >effective on the middle one. The third one has managed to hit honors a couple >of times this year, but it's still a "catch up" situation. It sounds like you didn't actively pay attention to what your kids were doing, and blame the resultant problems on the school system rather than shouldering that share of the blame that derives your own lack of oversight. D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. -Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings. Oct 5th, 2004 JDL
From: Brian Inglis on 10 May 2005 17:47
fOn Tue, 10 May 2005 16:12:23 +0000 in alt.folklore.computers, "Kevin G. Rhoads" <kgrhoads(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: >>I do not have any documentation, but I do know of one case >>where the threat of a suit got the penalties canceled in >>one case. There was a diabetic boy, who kept a syringe >>containing a single injection of glucagon in his desk. He >>showed it to his friends, and told them how to use it and >>when. > >Another case, an asthmatic youngster who died because the emergency inhaler >had to be kept in the nurse's office per ZT drug rules. Didn't prevent >the school or the people from a wrongful death lawsuit. > >Why do innocents have to die to show these policies are stupid? And >people still don't get it? We've got two asthmatic kids and after a problem with a teacher not excusing one to go to the office, read them the riot act, told them how it would be handled in future, and asked if they needed me to contact anyone in the board to ensure that would be done. Should probably have written a letter to the board anyway just to ensure the problem got logged (obAFC) in case of any future occurrence. -- Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada Brian.Inglis(a)CSi.com (Brian[dot]Inglis{at}SystematicSW[dot]ab[dot]ca) fake address use address above to reply |