From: MarkA on
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:53:54 -0800, spiritual energy wrote:

> In another forum some teenage kid asked the question: Why is humanity
> really so corrupt?
>

I don't agree that humanity is corrupt. Every day, we have to balance
altruism against self-interest. In any large group, there will be
"outliers": a small percentage of people who will exploit the group with
no altruism, and a small percentage of people who will be generous and
giving beyond reason.

What you consider "corruption" is just a large population of hairless apes
trying to get by.

--
MarkA
Keeper of the Butter Dish of Balshazar

From: G=EMC^2 Glazier on
Because people are afraid to fight fraud and corruption. They could lose
their food stamps. They can have water and electric turned off. Its so
very sad. They will get Tang to drink in the end because they let the
government become fascist. Our founding fathers had brave hearts. There
are no brave hearts in USA. Statue of Liberty should be sent to China so
they can use its copper. We are fighting in Afghanistan to save the
poppies for the Godfather bert

From: spiritual energy on
No matter what we try to do..people will always be selfish - its the
human nature and it keeps us alive. Humans are driven by self
interest, and when that self interest conflicts with another, that's
when conflicts happen.

I can start a huge discussion about everything that is corrupt in our
society- war, primitive beliefs (racism, sexism, discrimination...),
mentel illnesses, pride, inability of some people to find a loving
partner... the point is no matter what u do people are all selfish. We
all care about ourselves MORE than about others and we all ruin our
society.
From: Bert Byfield on
> Open any business school casebook. On its very first page, in big
> black san serif type, is the essence of all managerial success:
> TAKING IS BETTER THAN MAKING

This is simply not true. It is your own fantasy.

> And it's one, two, three,
> What are we fighting for?
> Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
> Next stop is Afghanistan;
> And it's five, six, seven,
> Open up the pearly gates,
> Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
> Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
> Follow the money, honey.
> TAKING IS BETTER THAN MAKING

You really shouldn't post while drunk.




From: Siobhan Medeiros on
On Dec 16, 2:53 am, spiritual energy <solidst...(a)rocketmail.com>
wrote:
> In another forum some teenage kid asked the question: Why is humanity
> really so corrupt?
>
> Several nice responses were generated to this question:
>
> 1. People wanna be on top at all costs
>
> 2. Maybe because we were made by microsoft. But honestly its becuase
> of Darwin's theory of evolution, where everything is based on
> SURVIVAL
> OF THE FITTEST (also called natural selection). We have traits that
> are required for our species to survive.
>
> 3. I guess it is because we see ourselves as creatures of free will,
> we were taught this all our lives, and still the human race can not
> escape the fact that we are animals, and as all other animals we have
> the same basic instincts and desires.
>
> Sadly we are also able to think of ways to get to what we desire,
> morals and ethics are taught by the place we stem from in the world,
> but they do not replace the basic instrincts, when these collide
> morals and ethics have a high chance of getting the boot.
>
> Oh on top of that we have to remember genetic imperfections insanity
> and personality disorderes, these are usually partly genetical (to
> say
> the least). ALOT of people have mental problems, these come in a wide
> array and are rarely purely negative tho.
>
> Last but not least... Humans are far from as Intelligent as they think
> they are, if you try to study them, and their behavior it shows quite
> fast, the
> Human mind is lacking! It can not comprehend alot of "wrongs". It has
> rarely foresight, humans are stupid by nature, they really are.
>
> 4. I don't think that humans are inherently self-destructive. But I
> would see SOME possible merit in the idea that we're "too smart for
> our own good". More specifically, in the idea that our technological
> development has so immensely exceeded any changes to US.
>
> Humans have changed very little over the many thousands of years.
> We're essentially the same as the people who hunted woolly mammoths
> and wrote on ancient cave walls. But the way we innovate
> technologically and utilize the stored knowledge of past generations
> has recently led to an INSANE amount of technological innovation that
> has drastically changed the way people live. And the result is this
> kind of disconnect between what we are, and the world in which we
> have
> built for ourselves. Many of us still think as if we were living in
> early history, except that instead of spears and rocks we have AK-47s
> and atomic bombs.
>
> Luckily we are a highly adaptable species, so we adapted to live as
> things changed at an insanely fast rate. But adapting to a new
> environment doesn't really make us different people. I think that
> today's racist is someone who (in a long gone time) may have been
> praised by his tribe for mercilessly defending the tribe against
> outsiders. But the same attitudes that worked thousands of years ago
> in a small tribal setting may not work so well in a huge society such
> as the ones we have today. The racist is exercising a totally natural
> need to hate "the other guy". He simply has just failed to adapt his
> concept of "the other guy" to fit in with modern society.
>
> Have you ever read David Wong's article about "The Monkeysphere"?
> Well, I think that a lot of that is going on. We simply were NOT
> mentally designed to live in societies consisting of millions of
> people. Or god forbid, a global society of six billion people. We're
> still slaves to our biology, and our biology sort of directs us to
> seek out small groups. Once we have to start dealing with thousands
> of
> strangers on a daily basis, we sort of just go a little bit insane.
> It's just that some people handle this insanity better than others.
> Some people get stressed out and relieve their stress by shooting
> people in a videogame, while others dress up in hoods and go out to
> kill blacks and gays.

Humanity as a whole, isn't that corrupt. The problem is that it takes
only one prick in ten to make life miserable for everyone.

What the other nine need is a way to figure out a way to figure out
who the prick is, and keep him on a tight leash.