Why is humanity so corrupt?
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From: spiritual energy on 16 Dec 2009 05:53 In another forum some teenage kid asked the question: Why is humanity really so corrupt? Several nice responses were generated to this question: 1. People wanna be on top at all costs 2. Maybe because we were made by microsoft. But honestly its becuase of Darwin's theory of evolution, where everything is based on SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST (also called natural selection). We have traits that are required for our species to survive. 3. I guess it is because we see ourselves as creatures of free will, we were taught this all our lives, and still the human race can not escape the fact that we are animals, and as all other animals we have the same basic instincts and desires. Sadly we are also able to think of ways to get to what we desire, morals and ethics are taught by the place we stem from in the world, but they do not replace the basic instrincts, when these collide morals and ethics have a high chance of getting the boot. Oh on top of that we have to remember genetic imperfections insanity and personality disorderes, these are usually partly genetical (to say the least). ALOT of people have mental problems, these come in a wide array and are rarely purely negative tho. Last but not least... Humans are far from as Intelligent as they think they are, if you try to study them, and their behavior it shows quite fast, the Human mind is lacking! It can not comprehend alot of "wrongs". It has rarely foresight, humans are stupid by nature, they really are. 4. I don't think that humans are inherently self-destructive. But I would see SOME possible merit in the idea that we're "too smart for our own good". More specifically, in the idea that our technological development has so immensely exceeded any changes to US. Humans have changed very little over the many thousands of years. We're essentially the same as the people who hunted woolly mammoths and wrote on ancient cave walls. But the way we innovate technologically and utilize the stored knowledge of past generations has recently led to an INSANE amount of technological innovation that has drastically changed the way people live. And the result is this kind of disconnect between what we are, and the world in which we have built for ourselves. Many of us still think as if we were living in early history, except that instead of spears and rocks we have AK-47s and atomic bombs. Luckily we are a highly adaptable species, so we adapted to live as things changed at an insanely fast rate. But adapting to a new environment doesn't really make us different people. I think that today's racist is someone who (in a long gone time) may have been praised by his tribe for mercilessly defending the tribe against outsiders. But the same attitudes that worked thousands of years ago in a small tribal setting may not work so well in a huge society such as the ones we have today. The racist is exercising a totally natural need to hate "the other guy". He simply has just failed to adapt his concept of "the other guy" to fit in with modern society. Have you ever read David Wong's article about "The Monkeysphere"? Well, I think that a lot of that is going on. We simply were NOT mentally designed to live in societies consisting of millions of people. Or god forbid, a global society of six billion people. We're still slaves to our biology, and our biology sort of directs us to seek out small groups. Once we have to start dealing with thousands of strangers on a daily basis, we sort of just go a little bit insane. It's just that some people handle this insanity better than others. Some people get stressed out and relieve their stress by shooting people in a videogame, while others dress up in hoods and go out to kill blacks and gays.
From: Les Hellawell on 16 Dec 2009 06:57 On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:53:54 -0800 (PST), spiritual energy <solidstate(a)rocketmail.com> wrote: >In another forum some teenage kid asked the question: Why is humanity >really so corrupt? I blame it on reliigion especially the baleful Trinity that orginated in the Middle East. Judeaism, Islam and Christianity in particular. The harm these three have done to humanity is immense. > >Several nice responses were generated to this question: > >1. People wanna be on top at all costs Yes this desire to control the lives of others is probably the reason these nasty religions were invented. > >2. Maybe because we were made by microsoft. But honestly its becuase >of Darwin's theory of evolution, where everything is based on >SURVIVAL >OF THE FITTEST (also called natural selection). We have traits that >are required for our species to survive. > >3. I guess it is because we see ourselves as creatures of free will, >we were taught this all our lives, and still the human race can not >escape the fact that we are animals, and as all other animals we have >the same basic instincts and desires. Darwin did not invent evolution nor was he the first to realise it was taking place. He did realise how to occurs but even then he told us like it is. If you are one of those who believe a some kind of god created everything (a bit increduous a notion of course) then you must regard it as being responsible for the way things are. > >Sadly we are also able to think of ways to get to what we desire, >morals and ethics are taught by the place we stem from in the world, >but they do not replace the basic instrincts, when these collide >morals and ethics have a high chance of getting the boot. Nonesense. We are a societal animal that thrives best in a cooperative environment and our instincts are to support this. We know it is wrong to kill, it is not something that needs to be taught. Most crime and destruction is carried out by a selfish few. >Oh on top of that we have to remember genetic imperfections insanity >and personality disorderes, these are usually partly genetical (to >say >the least). ALOT of people have mental problems, these come in a wide >array and are rarely purely negative tho. > >Last but not least... Humans are far from as Intelligent as they think >they are, if you try to study them, and their behavior it shows quite >fast, the >Human mind is lacking! It can not comprehend alot of "wrongs". It has >rarely foresight, humans are stupid by nature, they really are. > >4. I don't think that humans are inherently self-destructive. But I >would see SOME possible merit in the idea that we're "too smart for >our own good". More specifically, in the idea that our technological >development has so immensely exceeded any changes to US. > >Humans have changed very little over the many thousands of years. >We're essentially the same as the people who hunted woolly mammoths >and wrote on ancient cave walls. But the way we innovate >technologically and utilize the stored knowledge of past generations >has recently led to an INSANE amount of technological innovation that >has drastically changed the way people live. And the result is this >kind of disconnect between what we are, and the world in which we >have >built for ourselves. Many of us still think as if we were living in >early history, except that instead of spears and rocks we have AK-47s >and atomic bombs. > >Luckily we are a highly adaptable species, so we adapted to live as >things changed at an insanely fast rate. But adapting to a new >environment doesn't really make us different people. I think that >today's racist is someone who (in a long gone time) may have been >praised by his tribe for mercilessly defending the tribe against >outsiders. But the same attitudes that worked thousands of years ago >in a small tribal setting may not work so well in a huge society such >as the ones we have today. The racist is exercising a totally natural >need to hate "the other guy". He simply has just failed to adapt his >concept of "the other guy" to fit in with modern society. > >Have you ever read David Wong's article about "The Monkeysphere"? >Well, I think that a lot of that is going on. We simply were NOT >mentally designed to live in societies consisting of millions of >people. Or god forbid, a global society of six billion people. We're >still slaves to our biology, and our biology sort of directs us to >seek out small groups. Once we have to start dealing with thousands >of >strangers on a daily basis, we sort of just go a little bit insane. >It's just that some people handle this insanity better than others. >Some people get stressed out and relieve their stress by shooting >people in a videogame, while others dress up in hoods and go out to >kill blacks and gays. What a strange bleak picture you paint. Reality is much better but I do not live in a selfish dog-eat-dog culture as applies in the USA. -- Les Hellawell Greetings from: YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
From: lorad on 16 Dec 2009 07:07 On Dec 16, 2:53 am, spiritual energy <solidst...(a)rocketmail.com> wrote: > Why is humanity so corrupt? Simple... Because the sheeple are so stupid.
From: Lars Eighner on 16 Dec 2009 08:11 In our last episode, <82fb6fa6-ff59-4431-b6e4-45d7da2297eb(a)p32g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, the lovely and talented spiritual energy broadcast on alt.atheism: > In another forum some teenage kid asked the question: Why is humanity > really so corrupt? > Several nice responses were generated to this question: > 1. People wanna be on top at all costs > 2. Maybe because we were made by microsoft. But honestly its becuase of > Darwin's theory of evolution, where everything is based on SURVIVAL OF THE > FITTEST (also called natural selection). We have traits that are required > for our species to survive. Human beings are a social species. That means humans have the best chance of survival in groups that cooperate. The fittest human beings are those who cooperate best and get along with others. "Survival of the fittest" refers to the species, not the most buff individuals. Evolution ain't a Levi's commercial. > 3. I guess it is because we see ourselves as creatures of free will, > we were taught this all our lives, and still the human race can not > escape the fact that we are animals, and as all other animals we have > the same basic instincts and desires. Species differ in their requirements. Animals' instincts differ according to the niche the species occupies and the requirements for the species' survival. Human beings have very few instincts. -- Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> Warbama's Afghaninam day: 14 347.5 hours since Warbama declared Viet Nam II. Warbama: An LBJ for the Twenty-First century. No hope. No change.
From: Jimbo on 16 Dec 2009 08:55 On Dec 16, 8:11 am, Lars Eighner <use...(a)larseighner.com> wrote: > In our last episode, > <82fb6fa6-ff59-4431-b6e4-45d7da229...(a)p32g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, the > lovely and talented spiritual energy broadcast on alt.atheism: > > > In another forum some teenage kid asked the question: Why is humanity > > really so corrupt? > > Several nice responses were generated to this question: > > 1. People wanna be on top at all costs > > 2. Maybe because we were made by microsoft. But honestly its becuase of > > Darwin's theory of evolution, where everything is based on SURVIVAL OF THE > > FITTEST (also called natural selection). We have traits that are required > > for our species to survive. > > Human beings are a social species. That means humans have the best chance > of survival in groups that cooperate. The fittest human beings are those > who cooperate best and get along with others. "Survival of the fittest" > refers to the species, not the most buff individuals. Evolution ain't a > Levi's commercial. Darwin clarified the "survival of the fittest" later in life to mean "survival of the most adaptive". It's not always the strongest of the species that adapts and survives. I agree that the most adaptive of the human species are those that are best equipt to cooperate and get along.
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