From: Yap on
On 12月16日, 下午6時53分, spiritual energy <solidst...(a)rocketmail.com>
wrote:
> In another forum some teenage kid asked the question: Why is humanity
> really so corrupt?
>
> Several nice responses were generated to this question:
>
> 1. People wanna be on top at all costs
Yes.
But there is no neutral position when the cost is not at others'
expense.
>
> 2. Maybe because we were made by microsoft. But honestly its becuase
> of Darwin's theory of evolution, where everything is based on
> SURVIVAL
> OF THE FITTEST (also called natural selection). We have traits that
> are required for our species to survive.
Again here the survival of the fittest meant one needs to have means
of survival by killing another living thing as food.
Is the world built to accommodate this orginally?
Shouldn't this world give rise to human like cows living on grass or
vege?
We are no different from the animals.
>
> 3. I guess it is because we see ourselves as creatures of free will,
> we were taught this all our lives, and still the human race can not
> escape the fact that we are animals, and as all other animals we have
> the same basic instincts and desires.
Free will must permit sensible solution as human is born with
reasoning power.
>
> Sadly we are also able to think of ways to get to what we desire,
> morals and ethics are taught by the place we stem from in the world,
> but they do not replace the basic instrincts, when these collide
> morals and ethics have a high chance of getting the boot.
This arise from human greed which is the most evil trait.
>
> Oh on top of that we have to remember genetic imperfections insanity
> and personality disorderes, these are usually partly genetical (to
> say
> the least). ALOT of people have mental problems, these come in a wide
> array and are rarely purely negative tho.
The society generate pressure, and with heavy sense of responsibility,
it degrades the value of well being.
>
> Last but not least... Humans are far from as Intelligent as they think
> they are, if you try to study them, and their behavior it shows quite
> fast, the
> Human mind is lacking! It can not comprehend alot of "wrongs". It has
> rarely foresight, humans are stupid by nature, they really are.
Obviously, human tend to have excellent achievers while most will be
contended with average performance.
It is these average people that lends stability to a society.
>
> 4. I don't think that humans are inherently self-destructive. But I
> would see SOME possible merit in the idea that we're "too smart for
> our own good". More specifically, in the idea that our technological
> development has so immensely exceeded any changes to US.
No, human are inherently destructive in the massive scale.
Look at the WW1 and II, they killed millions of people.
And we don't know when the III will come....there are WMD waiting to
finish this world off.
This is apart from the ecosystem inbalance, carbon warming, enormous
pollution, etc.
>
> Humans have changed very little over the many thousands of years.
> We're essentially the same as the people who hunted woolly mammoths
> and wrote on ancient cave walls. But the way we innovate
> technologically and utilize the stored knowledge of past generations
> has recently led to an INSANE amount of technological innovation that
> has drastically changed the way people live. And the result is this
> kind of disconnect between what we are, and the world in which we
> have
> built for ourselves. Many of us still think as if we were living in
> early history, except that instead of spears and rocks we have AK-47s
> and atomic bombs.
Yes.
More subtly, we invented comfort such as mobility using car, heater
for cold, junk cola and food Macdonald.
Then there are those TV, and computers when one can stick to them for
a whole day, in and out.
>
> Luckily we are a highly adaptable species, so we adapted to live as
> things changed at an insanely fast rate. But adapting to a new
> environment doesn't really make us different people. I think that
> today's racist is someone who (in a long gone time) may have been
> praised by his tribe for mercilessly defending the tribe against
> outsiders. But the same attitudes that worked thousands of years ago
> in a small tribal setting may not work so well in a huge society such
> as the ones we have today. The racist is exercising a totally natural
> need to hate "the other guy". He simply has just failed to adapt his
> concept of "the other guy" to fit in with modern society.
Don't you think US spending on vast amount of money on defense and
weapon research is not for any purpose?
And the Serbian ethnic cleansing is not a racist intolerable
aggression against minority?
>
> Have you ever read David Wong's article about "The Monkeysphere"?
> Well, I think that a lot of that is going on. We simply were NOT
> mentally designed to live in societies consisting of millions of
> people. Or god forbid, a global society of six billion people. We're
> still slaves to our biology, and our biology sort of directs us to
> seek out small groups. Once we have to start dealing with thousands
> of
> strangers on a daily basis, we sort of just go a little bit insane.
> It's just that some people handle this insanity better than others.
> Some people get stressed out and relieve their stress by shooting
> people in a videogame, while others dress up in hoods and go out to
> kill blacks and gays.
These are the deeds done by the white spremacy mentality.
There are a lot of mixed society like Thailand, Malaysia, and China
where different minorities live happiky tgether.
After all, those minority made up what a nation is. The governments of
those nations have to take care of each and every person.
It is encouraging that racist america elected a black to be the
president.....largely due to the bigotry failure of Bush.

From: Raymond Yohros on
On Dec 16, 2:53 am, spiritual energy <solidst...(a)rocketmail.com>
wrote:
> In another forum some teenage kid asked the question: Why is humanity
> really so corrupt?
>

SpiritualEnergy:

d problem is smart people r not getting any jobs???
sports guys are making billions?
is not that i have anything agains sports, i love a bit of exersise
but
where's d sense of proportion.

regards
r.y

From: Jimbo on
On Dec 16, 1:15 pm, MarkA <nob...(a)nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:53:54 -0800, spiritual energy wrote:
> > In another forum some teenage kid asked the question: Why is humanity
> > really so corrupt?
>
> I don't agree that humanity is corrupt.  Every day, we have to balance
> altruism against self-interest.  In any large group, there will be
> "outliers": a small percentage of people who will exploit the group with
> no altruism, and a small percentage of people who will be generous and
> giving beyond reason.
>
> What you consider "corruption" is just a large population of hairless apes
> trying to get by.
>

Exactly, humans being humans as they've done for thousands of years.
Each generation somehow believes that the next generation is more
corrupt than the last.
From: MarkA on
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:38:51 -0800, Jimbo wrote:

> On Dec 16, 1:15�pm, MarkA <nob...(a)nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:53:54 -0800, spiritual energy wrote:
>> > In another forum some teenage kid asked the question: Why is humanity
>> > really so corrupt?
>>
>> I don't agree that humanity is corrupt. �Every day, we have to balance
>> altruism against self-interest. �In any large group, there will be
>> "outliers": a small percentage of people who will exploit the group with
>> no altruism, and a small percentage of people who will be generous and
>> giving beyond reason.
>>
>> What you consider "corruption" is just a large population of hairless
>> apes trying to get by.
>>
>>
> Exactly, humans being humans as they've done for thousands of years. Each
> generation somehow believes that the next generation is more corrupt than
> the last.

It has been WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too long since I threw my feces at someone.
Does anyone have Glen Beck's home address?

--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
About eight o'clock

From: RichD on
On Dec 16, Les Hellawell <l...(a)fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> What a strange bleak picture you paint. Reality is much
> better but I do not live in a selfish dog-eat-dog culture as
> applies in the USA.
> --
> Les Hellawell
> Greetings from: YORKSHIRE

You live in a culture with 20% lower income,
higher crime rate, and delapidated infrastructure.

But you're lucky, you don;t suffer a selfish
dog-eat-dog culture as USA...

--
Rich