From: Phil Hobbs on
Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote:
>
>
> Phil Hobbs wrote:
>
>> Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote:
>
>>> There is no physical laws of "conservation of ...".
>>> There are, however, artificially designed parameters such as
>>> "energy", "charge", "momentum", etc. Those parameters are *defined*
>>> in such way that their value is preserved through certain
>>> transformations of a physical system. The only purpose of this is
>>> simplification of math; so it is possible to balance the states of a
>>> system instead of solving differential equations.
>>>
>>>
>> You must be a software guy originally. Conservation laws are
>> mathematical expressions of the basic symmetries of all physical
>> processes. If that weren't the case, you couldn't make up things that
>> were conserved, except trivial ones, like velocity to the zeroth power.
>
> Dr. Phil Hobbs, I have to send you back to the course of physics by R.
> Feynman. You definitely need a refresher on the basics.
>

Where I come from, we know a trick worth two of that one.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


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From: m II on
John Larkin wrote:

> Clip, belt, magazine, doesn't matter: any name, or its German
> equivalent, would be equally effective.


Ah..the old 'nomenclature' defense! <g>


bismarck mike
From: o pere o on
George Herold wrote:
<snip>

>
> You don't need Hobbs or Hill high power thought, this is simple
> freshman physics. Energy conservation and charge conservation are
> always true. In the above case the total charge in the system is near
> zero and doesn't change with time. There is charge separation in the
> cap and charge motion in the inductor, both store energy.
>
> George H.
>

Absolutely right. In the circuit involved charge conservation is only
used to write Kirchoff Current Laws. For any two terminal device, this
means than a charge q1 flowing into terminal 1 is equal to the same
amount of charge q1 flowing out of terminal 2. It may seem funny, but a
capacitor does not store (net) charge.

As soon as both "charged" are connected in series, some positive charges
are annihilated by the same amount of negative charges, leaving the same
net balance, i.e. zero.

Pere
From: John Larkin on
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 09:36:07 -0600, m II <c(a)in.the.hat> wrote:

>John Larkin wrote:
>
>> Clip, belt, magazine, doesn't matter: any name, or its German
>> equivalent, would be equally effective.
>
>
>Ah..the old 'nomenclature' defense! <g>
>
>
>bismarck mike

For people who like guns and electronics, read "The Deadly Fuse" by
Baldwin.

John

From: Vladimir Vassilevsky on


Phil Hobbs wrote:

> Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Phil Hobbs wrote:
>>
>>> Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> There is no physical laws of "conservation of ...".
>>>> There are, however, artificially designed parameters such as
>>>> "energy", "charge", "momentum", etc. Those parameters are *defined*
>>>> in such way that their value is preserved through certain
>>>> transformations of a physical system. The only purpose of this is
>>>> simplification of math; so it is possible to balance the states of a
>>>> system instead of solving differential equations.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You must be a software guy originally. Conservation laws are
>>> mathematical expressions of the basic symmetries of all physical
>>> processes. If that weren't the case, you couldn't make up things
>>> that were conserved, except trivial ones, like velocity to the zeroth
>>> power.
>>
>>
>> Dr. Phil Hobbs, I have to send you back to the course of physics by R.
>> Feynman. You definitely need a refresher on the basics.
>>
>
> Where I come from, we know a trick worth two of that one.

Sure. "I came from MIPT; they don't keep idiots there".

VLV