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From: Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] on 18 Jan 2008 16:41 Right click, My Computer > Properties > Advanced > Performance With 3 GB of memory > Page file should be 4.5 to 6 GB -- Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] ------------------------------------------------- Microsoft MVPs Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) Real World Answers --------------------------------------------------------- Please do not contact me directly regarding issues "rossk" <rkovelman(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message news:7049498c-c464-49f7-b9d1-da150760d1e5(a)e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com... 3 GB is the total, I do NOT have the 3GB switch becuase I am also running exchange or at least thats why I think so. The system knwos 3 GB so I do not get the warning of "there is an application taking up too much memory". Page file I forgot? Where do I check that again? Thanks! On Jan 16, 11:13 pm, "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote: > And how much RAM in your system and what is the size of your page file? > > -- > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] > ----------------------------------------------------------- > MVPs Do Not Work for Microsoft > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <supp...(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in messagenews:emS4j7KWIHA.3420(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > From my Experience you shouldn't be getting these. > > What kind of Drives are they? > and how many users are on your Domain and what kind of access are they > doing? > > Russ > > -- > > Russell Grover > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > North America Remote SBS2003 Support -http://www.SBITS.Biz > > - > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in messagenews:f57f7861-023e-4314-bb97-1c06071ea303(a)f10g2000hsf.googlegroups..com... > >I get this message once and awhile should i be concerened now? > > > > "The following disk has low idle time, which may cause slow response > > time when reading or writing files to the disk. > > > > Disk: 0 C: > > > > Review the Disk Transfers/sec and % Idle Time counters for the > > PhysicalDisk performance object. If the Disk Transfers/sec counter is > > consistently below 150 while the % Idle Time counter remains very low > > (close to 0), there may be a problem with the disk driver or hardware. > > > > If the review shows that the disk is functioning properly, use Task > > Manager to determine which processes are causing the majority of the > > disk activity. You can attempt to correct the problem by stopping and > > then restarting those processes. > > > > You can disable this alert or change its threshold by using the Change > > Alert Notifications task in the Server Management Monitoring and > > Reporting taskpad." > > > > This is the second time in 3 months I have seen this for the main > > drive, maybe the 1st. I have gotten it for another internal drive > > maybe 2 times or 3. If so does that mean the drives are failing? > > > > Thanks
From: SuperGumby [SBS MVP] on 18 Jan 2008 16:54 going to advise the OP how to get around the 4GB paging file limit then? "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamhanna(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote in message news:Ot$VTrhWIHA.1208(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... Right click, My Computer > Properties > Advanced > Performance With 3 GB of memory > Page file should be 4.5 to 6 GB -- Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] ------------------------------------------------- Microsoft MVPs Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) Real World Answers --------------------------------------------------------- Please do not contact me directly regarding issues "rossk" <rkovelman(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message news:7049498c-c464-49f7-b9d1-da150760d1e5(a)e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com... 3 GB is the total, I do NOT have the 3GB switch becuase I am also running exchange or at least thats why I think so. The system knwos 3 GB so I do not get the warning of "there is an application taking up too much memory". Page file I forgot? Where do I check that again? Thanks! On Jan 16, 11:13 pm, "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote: > And how much RAM in your system and what is the size of your page file? > > -- > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] > ----------------------------------------------------------- > MVPs Do Not Work for Microsoft > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <supp...(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in messagenews:emS4j7KWIHA.3420(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > From my Experience you shouldn't be getting these. > > What kind of Drives are they? > and how many users are on your Domain and what kind of access are they > doing? > > Russ > > -- > > Russell Grover > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > North America Remote SBS2003 Support -http://www.SBITS.Biz > > - > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in messagenews:f57f7861-023e-4314-bb97-1c06071ea303(a)f10g2000hsf.googlegroups..com... > >I get this message once and awhile should i be concerened now? > > > > "The following disk has low idle time, which may cause slow response > > time when reading or writing files to the disk. > > > > Disk: 0 C: > > > > Review the Disk Transfers/sec and % Idle Time counters for the > > PhysicalDisk performance object. If the Disk Transfers/sec counter is > > consistently below 150 while the % Idle Time counter remains very low > > (close to 0), there may be a problem with the disk driver or hardware. > > > > If the review shows that the disk is functioning properly, use Task > > Manager to determine which processes are causing the majority of the > > disk activity. You can attempt to correct the problem by stopping and > > then restarting those processes. > > > > You can disable this alert or change its threshold by using the Change > > Alert Notifications task in the Server Management Monitoring and > > Reporting taskpad." > > > > This is the second time in 3 months I have seen this for the main > > drive, maybe the 1st. I have gotten it for another internal drive > > maybe 2 times or 3. If so does that mean the drives are failing? > > > > Thanks
From: Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] on 18 Jan 2008 17:12 What SG is referring to is that there is a limit of 4Gb page file on each partition So lets say that you have a C: Drive and a E: Drive You can create a 2GB on the C: Drive and 4 GB on the E: drive if you wanted a 6GB (2X the amount of physical memory) page file -- Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] ------------------------------------------------- Microsoft MVPs Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) Real World Answers --------------------------------------------------------- Please do not contact me directly regarding issues "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not(a)your.nellie> wrote in message news:%23v8bxyhWIHA.4712(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... going to advise the OP how to get around the 4GB paging file limit then? "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamhanna(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote in message news:Ot$VTrhWIHA.1208(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... Right click, My Computer > Properties > Advanced > Performance With 3 GB of memory > Page file should be 4.5 to 6 GB -- Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] ------------------------------------------------- Microsoft MVPs Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) Real World Answers --------------------------------------------------------- Please do not contact me directly regarding issues "rossk" <rkovelman(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message news:7049498c-c464-49f7-b9d1-da150760d1e5(a)e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com... 3 GB is the total, I do NOT have the 3GB switch becuase I am also running exchange or at least thats why I think so. The system knwos 3 GB so I do not get the warning of "there is an application taking up too much memory". Page file I forgot? Where do I check that again? Thanks! On Jan 16, 11:13 pm, "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote: > And how much RAM in your system and what is the size of your page file? > > -- > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] > ----------------------------------------------------------- > MVPs Do Not Work for Microsoft > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <supp...(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in messagenews:emS4j7KWIHA.3420(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > From my Experience you shouldn't be getting these. > > What kind of Drives are they? > and how many users are on your Domain and what kind of access are they > doing? > > Russ > > -- > > Russell Grover > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > North America Remote SBS2003 Support -http://www.SBITS.Biz > > - > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in messagenews:f57f7861-023e-4314-bb97-1c06071ea303(a)f10g2000hsf.googlegroups..com... > >I get this message once and awhile should i be concerened now? > > > > "The following disk has low idle time, which may cause slow response > > time when reading or writing files to the disk. > > > > Disk: 0 C: > > > > Review the Disk Transfers/sec and % Idle Time counters for the > > PhysicalDisk performance object. If the Disk Transfers/sec counter is > > consistently below 150 while the % Idle Time counter remains very low > > (close to 0), there may be a problem with the disk driver or hardware. > > > > If the review shows that the disk is functioning properly, use Task > > Manager to determine which processes are causing the majority of the > > disk activity. You can attempt to correct the problem by stopping and > > then restarting those processes. > > > > You can disable this alert or change its threshold by using the Change > > Alert Notifications task in the Server Management Monitoring and > > Reporting taskpad." > > > > This is the second time in 3 months I have seen this for the main > > drive, maybe the 1st. I have gotten it for another internal drive > > maybe 2 times or 3. If so does that mean the drives are failing? > > > > Thanks
From: SuperGumby [SBS MVP] on 18 Jan 2008 17:37 alternately, there is a method of creating multiple page files on a single partition http://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740 How to overcome the 4,095 MB paging file size limit in Windows. I disagree with Cris on two aspects of this: 1) that your paging file 'should' be as large as stated. Cris is referring to a long standing 'rule of thumb', that the paging file be 1.5 times real RAM. Your paging file will work optimally if it is no bigger than what is _required_. 2) is a mention rather than 'suggestion' Cris makes. I would make the page file on the OS partition no smaller than RAM+20MB, RAM+12 is the minimum for a full 'crash dump' file. OH, and while I'm here, mention /3GB. I see the OP is _not_ using it and this is proper, he has though confused the reason. Most Exchange systems would benefit from the switch, SBS doesn't because it is also a DC (and a lot of other things) and sacrificing 'kernel' to allow apps greater 'user' space _in most cases_ starves the kernel, decreasing performance. "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamhanna(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote in message news:u6XPu8hWIHA.2368(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... What SG is referring to is that there is a limit of 4Gb page file on each partition So lets say that you have a C: Drive and a E: Drive You can create a 2GB on the C: Drive and 4 GB on the E: drive if you wanted a 6GB (2X the amount of physical memory) page file -- Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] ------------------------------------------------- Microsoft MVPs Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) Real World Answers --------------------------------------------------------- Please do not contact me directly regarding issues "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not(a)your.nellie> wrote in message news:%23v8bxyhWIHA.4712(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... going to advise the OP how to get around the 4GB paging file limit then? "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamhanna(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote in message news:Ot$VTrhWIHA.1208(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... Right click, My Computer > Properties > Advanced > Performance With 3 GB of memory > Page file should be 4.5 to 6 GB -- Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] ------------------------------------------------- Microsoft MVPs Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) Real World Answers --------------------------------------------------------- Please do not contact me directly regarding issues "rossk" <rkovelman(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message news:7049498c-c464-49f7-b9d1-da150760d1e5(a)e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com... 3 GB is the total, I do NOT have the 3GB switch becuase I am also running exchange or at least thats why I think so. The system knwos 3 GB so I do not get the warning of "there is an application taking up too much memory". Page file I forgot? Where do I check that again? Thanks! On Jan 16, 11:13 pm, "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote: > And how much RAM in your system and what is the size of your page file? > > -- > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] > ----------------------------------------------------------- > MVPs Do Not Work for Microsoft > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <supp...(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in messagenews:emS4j7KWIHA.3420(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > From my Experience you shouldn't be getting these. > > What kind of Drives are they? > and how many users are on your Domain and what kind of access are they > doing? > > Russ > > -- > > Russell Grover > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > North America Remote SBS2003 Support -http://www.SBITS.Biz > > - > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in messagenews:f57f7861-023e-4314-bb97-1c06071ea303(a)f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > >I get this message once and awhile should i be concerened now? > > > > "The following disk has low idle time, which may cause slow response > > time when reading or writing files to the disk. > > > > Disk: 0 C: > > > > Review the Disk Transfers/sec and % Idle Time counters for the > > PhysicalDisk performance object. If the Disk Transfers/sec counter is > > consistently below 150 while the % Idle Time counter remains very low > > (close to 0), there may be a problem with the disk driver or hardware. > > > > If the review shows that the disk is functioning properly, use Task > > Manager to determine which processes are causing the majority of the > > disk activity. You can attempt to correct the problem by stopping and > > then restarting those processes. > > > > You can disable this alert or change its threshold by using the Change > > Alert Notifications task in the Server Management Monitoring and > > Reporting taskpad." > > > > This is the second time in 3 months I have seen this for the main > > drive, maybe the 1st. I have gotten it for another internal drive > > maybe 2 times or 3. If so does that mean the drives are failing? > > > > Thanks
From: rossk on 18 Jan 2008 19:13 I knew there was more reasons :) In anycase I have 2 drives c: and e: I will increase both correct? On Jan 18, 5:37 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > alternately, there is a method of creating multiple page files on a single > partitionhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740 > How to overcome the 4,095 MB paging file size limit in Windows. > > I disagree with Cris on two aspects of this: > 1) that your paging file 'should' be as large as stated. Cris is referring > to a long standing 'rule of thumb', that the paging file be 1.5 times real > RAM. Your paging file will work optimally if it is no bigger than what is > _required_. > 2) is a mention rather than 'suggestion' Cris makes. I would make the page > file on the OS partition no smaller than RAM+20MB, RAM+12 is the minimum for > a full 'crash dump' file. > > OH, and while I'm here, mention /3GB. I see the OP is _not_ using it and > this is proper, he has though confused the reason. Most Exchange systems > would benefit from the switch, SBS doesn't because it is also a DC (and a > lot of other things) and sacrificing 'kernel' to allow apps greater 'user' > space _in most cases_ starves the kernel, decreasing performance. > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote in > messagenews:u6XPu8hWIHA.2368(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > What SG is referring to is that there is a limit of 4Gb page file on each > partition > So lets say that you have a C: Drive and a E: Drive > You can create a 2GB on the C: Drive and 4 GB on the E: drive if you wanted > a 6GB (2X the amount of physical memory) page file > > -- > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > ------------------------------------------------- > Microsoft MVPs > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > Real World Answers > --------------------------------------------------------- > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote in messagenews:%23v8bxyhWIHA.4712(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > going to advise the OP how to get around the 4GB paging file limit then? > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote in > messagenews:Ot$VTrhWIHA.1208(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Right click, My Computer > Properties > Advanced > Performance > With 3 GB of memory > Page file should be 4.5 to 6 GB > > -- > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > ------------------------------------------------- > Microsoft MVPs > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > Real World Answers > --------------------------------------------------------- > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in messagenews:7049498c-c464-49f7-b9d1-da150760d1e5(a)e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > 3 GB is the total, I do NOT have the 3GB switch becuase I am also > running exchange or at least thats why I think so. The system knwos 3 > GB so I do not get the warning of "there is an application taking up > too much memory". Page file I forgot? Where do I check that again? > Thanks! > > On Jan 16, 11:13 pm, "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" > <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote: > > And how much RAM in your system and what is the size of your page > file? > > > > -- > > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > MVPs Do Not Work for Microsoft > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <supp...(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in > messagenews:emS4j7KWIHA.3420(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > From my Experience you shouldn't be getting these. > > > > What kind of Drives are they? > > and how many users are on your Domain and what kind of access are > they > > doing? > > > > Russ > > > > -- > > > > Russell Grover > > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > > North America Remote SBS2003 Support -http://www.SBITS.Biz > > > > - > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in > messagenews:f57f7861-023e-4314-bb97-1c06071ea303(a)f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > >I get this message once and awhile should i be concerened now? > > > > > > "The following disk has low idle time, which may cause slow > response > > > time when reading or writing files to the disk. > > > > > > Disk: 0 C: > > > > > > Review the Disk Transfers/sec and % Idle Time counters for the > > > PhysicalDisk performance object. If the Disk Transfers/sec counter > is > > > consistently below 150 while the % Idle Time counter remains very > low > > > (close to 0), there may be a problem with the disk driver or > hardware. > > > > > > If the review shows that the disk is functioning properly, use > Task > > > Manager to determine which processes are causing the majority of > the > > > disk activity. You can attempt to correct the problem by stopping > and > > > then restarting those processes. > > > > > > You can disable this alert or change its threshold by using the > Change > > > Alert Notifications task in the Server Management Monitoring and > > > Reporting taskpad." > > > > > > This is the second time in 3 months I have seen this for the main > > > drive, maybe the 1st. I have gotten it for another internal drive > > > maybe 2 times or 3. If so does that mean the drives are failing? > > > > > > Thanks
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