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From: rossk on 18 Jan 2008 20:27 Just an FYI: Drive C: Initail size - 1920 MB Maximum size - 3840 MB It says recomended is 4990 MB. Ideas? On Jan 18, 7:13 pm, rossk <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote: > I knew there was more reasons :) In anycase I have 2 drives c: and e: > I will increase both correct? > > On Jan 18, 5:37 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > alternately, there is a method of creating multiple page files on a single > > partitionhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740 > > How to overcome the 4,095 MB paging file size limit in Windows. > > > I disagree with Cris on two aspects of this: > > 1) that your paging file 'should' be as large as stated. Cris is referring > > to a long standing 'rule of thumb', that the paging file be 1.5 times real > > RAM. Your paging file will work optimally if it is no bigger than what is > > _required_. > > 2) is a mention rather than 'suggestion' Cris makes. I would make the page > > file on the OS partition no smaller than RAM+20MB, RAM+12 is the minimum for > > a full 'crash dump' file. > > > OH, and while I'm here, mention /3GB. I see the OP is _not_ using it and > > this is proper, he has though confused the reason. Most Exchange systems > > would benefit from the switch, SBS doesn't because it is also a DC (and a > > lot of other things) and sacrificing 'kernel' to allow apps greater 'user' > > space _in most cases_ starves the kernel, decreasing performance. > > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote in > > messagenews:u6XPu8hWIHA.2368(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > What SG is referring to is that there is a limit of 4Gb page file on each > > partition > > So lets say that you have a C: Drive and a E: Drive > > You can create a 2GB on the C: Drive and 4 GB on the E: drive if you wanted > > a 6GB (2X the amount of physical memory) page file > > > -- > > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Microsoft MVPs > > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > > Real World Answers > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote in messagenews:%23v8bxyhWIHA.4712(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > going to advise the OP how to get around the 4GB paging file limit then? > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote in > > messagenews:Ot$VTrhWIHA.1208(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > Right click, My Computer > Properties > Advanced > Performance > > With 3 GB of memory > Page file should be 4.5 to 6 GB > > > -- > > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Microsoft MVPs > > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > > Real World Answers > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in messagenews:7049498c-c464-49f7-b9d1-da150760d1e5(a)e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > > 3 GB is the total, I do NOT have the 3GB switch becuase I am also > > running exchange or at least thats why I think so. The system knwos 3 > > GB so I do not get the warning of "there is an application taking up > > too much memory". Page file I forgot? Where do I check that again? > > Thanks! > > > On Jan 16, 11:13 pm, "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" > > <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote: > > > And how much RAM in your system and what is the size of your page > > file? > > > > > > -- > > > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > MVPs Do Not Work for Microsoft > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <supp...(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in > > messagenews:emS4j7KWIHA.3420(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > From my Experience you shouldn't be getting these. > > > > > > What kind of Drives are they? > > > and how many users are on your Domain and what kind of access are > > they > > > doing? > > > > > > Russ > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Russell Grover > > > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > > > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > > > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > > > North America Remote SBS2003 Support -http://www.SBITS.Biz > > > > > > - > > > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in > > messagenews:f57f7861-023e-4314-bb97-1c06071ea303(a)f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > >I get this message once and awhile should i be concerened now? > > > > > > > > "The following disk has low idle time, which may cause slow > > response > > > > time when reading or writing files to the disk. > > > > > > > > Disk: 0 C: > > > > > > > > Review the Disk Transfers/sec and % Idle Time counters for the > > > > PhysicalDisk performance object. If the Disk Transfers/sec counter > > is > > > > consistently below 150 while the % Idle Time counter remains very > > low > > > > (close to 0), there may be a problem with the disk driver or > > hardware. > > > > > > > > If the review shows that the disk is functioning properly, use > > Task > > > > Manager to determine which processes are causing the majority of > > the > > > > disk activity. You can attempt to correct the problem by stopping > > and > > > > then restarting those processes. > > > > > > > > You can disable this alert or change its threshold by using the > > Change > > > > Alert Notifications task in the Server Management Monitoring and > > > > Reporting taskpad." > > > > > > > > This is the second time in 3 months I have seen this for the main > > > > drive, maybe the 1st. I have gotten it for another internal drive > > > > maybe 2 times or 3. If so does that mean the drives are failing? > > > > > > > > Thanks
From: SuperGumby [SBS MVP] on 18 Jan 2008 22:48 I'd probably put a single paging file of 3.2GB ((1024*1024*1024*3)+a bit) on the OS partition, min=max, then defrag it PageDefrag v2.32 http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897426.aspx and monitor its usage. If monitoring suggests more paging file is required, create an additional 1GB file on your 2nd partition, and monitor use. I don't think this will address your 'low idle time'. Please details partition sizes and percentage free space. Fragmentation can also cause slow access. NTFS is _much_ less affected by fragmentation than other file systems but the idea that you saw this after some period of operation, then it went away, and is now again happening lends _some_ credence to _possible_ fragmentation problems. "rossk" <rkovelman(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message news:53d8df33-3085-49af-94b1-4a4901a7b999(a)h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com... Just an FYI: Drive C: Initail size - 1920 MB Maximum size - 3840 MB It says recomended is 4990 MB. Ideas? On Jan 18, 7:13 pm, rossk <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote: > I knew there was more reasons :) In anycase I have 2 drives c: and e: > I will increase both correct? > > On Jan 18, 5:37 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > alternately, there is a method of creating multiple page files on a > > single > > partitionhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740 > > How to overcome the 4,095 MB paging file size limit in Windows. > > > I disagree with Cris on two aspects of this: > > 1) that your paging file 'should' be as large as stated. Cris is > > referring > > to a long standing 'rule of thumb', that the paging file be 1.5 times > > real > > RAM. Your paging file will work optimally if it is no bigger than what > > is > > _required_. > > 2) is a mention rather than 'suggestion' Cris makes. I would make the > > page > > file on the OS partition no smaller than RAM+20MB, RAM+12 is the minimum > > for > > a full 'crash dump' file. > > > OH, and while I'm here, mention /3GB. I see the OP is _not_ using it and > > this is proper, he has though confused the reason. Most Exchange systems > > would benefit from the switch, SBS doesn't because it is also a DC (and > > a > > lot of other things) and sacrificing 'kernel' to allow apps greater > > 'user' > > space _in most cases_ starves the kernel, decreasing performance. > > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote in > > messagenews:u6XPu8hWIHA.2368(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > What SG is referring to is that there is a limit of 4Gb page file on > > each > > partition > > So lets say that you have a C: Drive and a E: Drive > > You can create a 2GB on the C: Drive and 4 GB on the E: drive if you > > wanted > > a 6GB (2X the amount of physical memory) page file > > > -- > > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Microsoft MVPs > > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > > Real World Answers > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote in > > messagenews:%23v8bxyhWIHA.4712(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > going to advise the OP how to get around the 4GB paging file limit then? > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote in > > messagenews:Ot$VTrhWIHA.1208(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > Right click, My Computer > Properties > Advanced > Performance > > With 3 GB of memory > Page file should be 4.5 to 6 GB > > > -- > > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Microsoft MVPs > > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > > Real World Answers > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in > > messagenews:7049498c-c464-49f7-b9d1-da150760d1e5(a)e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > > 3 GB is the total, I do NOT have the 3GB switch becuase I am also > > running exchange or at least thats why I think so. The system knwos 3 > > GB so I do not get the warning of "there is an application taking up > > too much memory". Page file I forgot? Where do I check that again? > > Thanks! > > > On Jan 16, 11:13 pm, "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" > > <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote: > > > And how much RAM in your system and what is the size of your page > > file? > > > > > > -- > > > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > MVPs Do Not Work for Microsoft > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <supp...(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in > > messagenews:emS4j7KWIHA.3420(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > From my Experience you shouldn't be getting these. > > > > > > What kind of Drives are they? > > > and how many users are on your Domain and what kind of access are > > they > > > doing? > > > > > > Russ > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Russell Grover > > > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > > > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > > > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > > > North America Remote SBS2003 Support -http://www.SBITS.Biz > > > > > > - > > > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in > > messagenews:f57f7861-023e-4314-bb97-1c06071ea303(a)f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > >I get this message once and awhile should i be concerened now? > > > > > > > > "The following disk has low idle time, which may cause slow > > response > > > > time when reading or writing files to the disk. > > > > > > > > Disk: 0 C: > > > > > > > > Review the Disk Transfers/sec and % Idle Time counters for the > > > > PhysicalDisk performance object. If the Disk Transfers/sec counter > > is > > > > consistently below 150 while the % Idle Time counter remains very > > low > > > > (close to 0), there may be a problem with the disk driver or > > hardware. > > > > > > > > If the review shows that the disk is functioning properly, use > > Task > > > > Manager to determine which processes are causing the majority of > > the > > > > disk activity. You can attempt to correct the problem by stopping > > and > > > > then restarting those processes. > > > > > > > > You can disable this alert or change its threshold by using the > > Change > > > > Alert Notifications task in the Server Management Monitoring and > > > > Reporting taskpad." > > > > > > > > This is the second time in 3 months I have seen this for the main > > > > drive, maybe the 1st. I have gotten it for another internal drive > > > > maybe 2 times or 3. If so does that mean the drives are failing? > > > > > > > > Thanks
From: rossk on 19 Jan 2008 01:41 I am confused by this: ((1024*1024*1024*3)+a bit) Please explain. The server to be honest probably has not been defragemented for 2 yrs min, if not more. The exchange store is on the other drive so to defrag C: is not an issue. On Jan 18, 10:48 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > I'd probably put a single paging file of 3.2GB ((1024*1024*1024*3)+a bit) on > the OS partition, min=max, then defrag it > > PageDefrag v2.32http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897426.aspx > > and monitor its usage. If monitoring suggests more paging file is required, > create an additional 1GB file on your 2nd partition, and monitor use. > > I don't think this will address your 'low idle time'. Please details > partition sizes and percentage free space. > > Fragmentation can also cause slow access. NTFS is _much_ less affected by > fragmentation than other file systems but the idea that you saw this after > some period of operation, then it went away, and is now again happening > lends _some_ credence to _possible_ fragmentation problems. > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message > > news:53d8df33-3085-49af-94b1-4a4901a7b999(a)h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > Just an FYI: > Drive C: > Initail size - 1920 MB > Maximum size - 3840 MB > > It says recomended is 4990 MB. Ideas? > > On Jan 18, 7:13 pm, rossk <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote: > > > I knew there was more reasons :) In anycase I have 2 drives c: and e: > > I will increase both correct? > > > On Jan 18, 5:37 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > > alternately, there is a method of creating multiple page files on a > > > single > > > partitionhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740 > > > How to overcome the 4,095 MB paging file size limit in Windows. > > > > I disagree with Cris on two aspects of this: > > > 1) that your paging file 'should' be as large as stated. Cris is > > > referring > > > to a long standing 'rule of thumb', that the paging file be 1.5 times > > > real > > > RAM. Your paging file will work optimally if it is no bigger than what > > > is > > > _required_. > > > 2) is a mention rather than 'suggestion' Cris makes. I would make the > > > page > > > file on the OS partition no smaller than RAM+20MB, RAM+12 is the minimum > > > for > > > a full 'crash dump' file. > > > > OH, and while I'm here, mention /3GB. I see the OP is _not_ using it and > > > this is proper, he has though confused the reason. Most Exchange systems > > > would benefit from the switch, SBS doesn't because it is also a DC (and > > > a > > > lot of other things) and sacrificing 'kernel' to allow apps greater > > > 'user' > > > space _in most cases_ starves the kernel, decreasing performance. > > > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote in > > > messagenews:u6XPu8hWIHA.2368(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > What SG is referring to is that there is a limit of 4Gb page file on > > > each > > > partition > > > So lets say that you have a C: Drive and a E: Drive > > > You can create a 2GB on the C: Drive and 4 GB on the E: drive if you > > > wanted > > > a 6GB (2X the amount of physical memory) page file > > > > -- > > > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > Microsoft MVPs > > > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > > > Real World Answers > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote in > > > messagenews:%23v8bxyhWIHA.4712(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > going to advise the OP how to get around the 4GB paging file limit then? > > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote in > > > messagenews:Ot$VTrhWIHA.1208(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > Right click, My Computer > Properties > Advanced > Performance > > > With 3 GB of memory > Page file should be 4.5 to 6 GB > > > > -- > > > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > Microsoft MVPs > > > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > > > Real World Answers > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in > > > messagenews:7049498c-c464-49f7-b9d1-da150760d1e5(a)e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > > > 3 GB is the total, I do NOT have the 3GB switch becuase I am also > > > running exchange or at least thats why I think so. The system knwos 3 > > > GB so I do not get the warning of "there is an application taking up > > > too much memory". Page file I forgot? Where do I check that again? > > > Thanks! > > > > On Jan 16, 11:13 pm, "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" > > > <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote: > > > > And how much RAM in your system and what is the size of your page > > > file? > > > > > -- > > > > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > MVPs Do Not Work for Microsoft > > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <supp...(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in > > > messagenews:emS4j7KWIHA.3420(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > From my Experience you shouldn't be getting these. > > > > > What kind of Drives are they? > > > > and how many users are on your Domain and what kind of access are > > > they > > > > doing? > > > > > Russ > > > > > -- > > > > > Russell Grover > > > > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > > > > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > > > > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > > > > North America Remote SBS2003 Support -http://www.SBITS.Biz > > > > > - > > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in > > > messagenews:f57f7861-023e-4314-bb97-1c06071ea303(a)f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > > >I get this message once and awhile should i be concerened now? > > > > > > "The following disk has low idle time, which may cause slow > > > response > > > > > time when reading or writing files to the disk. > > > > > > Disk: 0 C: > > > > > > Review the Disk Transfers/sec and % Idle Time counters for the > > > > > PhysicalDisk performance object. If the Disk Transfers/sec counter > > > is > > > > > consistently below 150 while the % Idle Time counter remains very > > > low > > > > > (close to 0), there may be a problem with the disk driver or > > > hardware. > > > > > > If the review shows that the disk is functioning properly, use > > > Task > > > > > Manager to determine which processes are causing the majority of > > > the > > > > > disk activity. You can attempt to correct the problem by stopping > > > and > > > > > then restarting those processes. > > > > > > You can disable this alert or change its threshold by using the > > > Change > > > > > Alert Notifications task in the Server Management Monitoring and > > > > > Reporting taskpad." > > > > > > This is the second time in 3 months I have seen this for the main > > > > > drive, maybe the 1st. I have gotten it for another internal drive > > > > > maybe 2 times or 3. If so does that mean the drives are failing? > > > > > > Thanks
From: SuperGumby [SBS MVP] on 19 Jan 2008 03:04 bytes to kilobytes 1024 KB to MB *1024 MB to GB *1024 3 of them *3 plus 12MB to allow a dump file, a bit. Theoretically, you could work out the exact byte amount and set the PF to this value. There would be however very little benefit in doing so, add a couple of hundred MB, it's close enough. Did you miss the bit about: Please detail partition sizes and percentage free space. "rossk" <rkovelman(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message news:80d0d8d7-a51f-4260-9009-ee78520fbfaa(a)i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com... I am confused by this: ((1024*1024*1024*3)+a bit) Please explain. The server to be honest probably has not been defragemented for 2 yrs min, if not more. The exchange store is on the other drive so to defrag C: is not an issue. On Jan 18, 10:48 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > I'd probably put a single paging file of 3.2GB ((1024*1024*1024*3)+a bit) > on > the OS partition, min=max, then defrag it > > PageDefrag > v2.32http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897426.aspx > > and monitor its usage. If monitoring suggests more paging file is > required, > create an additional 1GB file on your 2nd partition, and monitor use. > > I don't think this will address your 'low idle time'. Please details > partition sizes and percentage free space. > > Fragmentation can also cause slow access. NTFS is _much_ less affected by > fragmentation than other file systems but the idea that you saw this after > some period of operation, then it went away, and is now again happening > lends _some_ credence to _possible_ fragmentation problems. > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message > > news:53d8df33-3085-49af-94b1-4a4901a7b999(a)h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > Just an FYI: > Drive C: > Initail size - 1920 MB > Maximum size - 3840 MB > > It says recomended is 4990 MB. Ideas? > > On Jan 18, 7:13 pm, rossk <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote: > > > I knew there was more reasons :) In anycase I have 2 drives c: and e: > > I will increase both correct? > > > On Jan 18, 5:37 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > > alternately, there is a method of creating multiple page files on a > > > single > > > partitionhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740 > > > How to overcome the 4,095 MB paging file size limit in Windows. > > > > I disagree with Cris on two aspects of this: > > > 1) that your paging file 'should' be as large as stated. Cris is > > > referring > > > to a long standing 'rule of thumb', that the paging file be 1.5 times > > > real > > > RAM. Your paging file will work optimally if it is no bigger than what > > > is > > > _required_. > > > 2) is a mention rather than 'suggestion' Cris makes. I would make the > > > page > > > file on the OS partition no smaller than RAM+20MB, RAM+12 is the > > > minimum > > > for > > > a full 'crash dump' file. > > > > OH, and while I'm here, mention /3GB. I see the OP is _not_ using it > > > and > > > this is proper, he has though confused the reason. Most Exchange > > > systems > > > would benefit from the switch, SBS doesn't because it is also a DC > > > (and > > > a > > > lot of other things) and sacrificing 'kernel' to allow apps greater > > > 'user' > > > space _in most cases_ starves the kernel, decreasing performance. > > > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote > > > in > > > messagenews:u6XPu8hWIHA.2368(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > What SG is referring to is that there is a limit of 4Gb page file on > > > each > > > partition > > > So lets say that you have a C: Drive and a E: Drive > > > You can create a 2GB on the C: Drive and 4 GB on the E: drive if you > > > wanted > > > a 6GB (2X the amount of physical memory) page file > > > > -- > > > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > Microsoft MVPs > > > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > > > Real World Answers > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote in > > > messagenews:%23v8bxyhWIHA.4712(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > going to advise the OP how to get around the 4GB paging file limit > > > then? > > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote > > > in > > > messagenews:Ot$VTrhWIHA.1208(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > Right click, My Computer > Properties > Advanced > Performance > > > With 3 GB of memory > Page file should be 4.5 to 6 GB > > > > -- > > > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > Microsoft MVPs > > > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > > > Real World Answers > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in > > > messagenews:7049498c-c464-49f7-b9d1-da150760d1e5(a)e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > > > 3 GB is the total, I do NOT have the 3GB switch becuase I am also > > > running exchange or at least thats why I think so. The system knwos 3 > > > GB so I do not get the warning of "there is an application taking up > > > too much memory". Page file I forgot? Where do I check that again? > > > Thanks! > > > > On Jan 16, 11:13 pm, "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" > > > <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote: > > > > And how much RAM in your system and what is the size of your page > > > file? > > > > > -- > > > > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > MVPs Do Not Work for Microsoft > > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <supp...(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in > > > messagenews:emS4j7KWIHA.3420(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > From my Experience you shouldn't be getting these. > > > > > What kind of Drives are they? > > > > and how many users are on your Domain and what kind of access are > > > they > > > > doing? > > > > > Russ > > > > > -- > > > > > Russell Grover > > > > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > > > > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > > > > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > > > > North America Remote SBS2003 Support -http://www.SBITS.Biz > > > > > - > > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in > > > messagenews:f57f7861-023e-4314-bb97-1c06071ea303(a)f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > > >I get this message once and awhile should i be concerened now? > > > > > > "The following disk has low idle time, which may cause slow > > > response > > > > > time when reading or writing files to the disk. > > > > > > Disk: 0 C: > > > > > > Review the Disk Transfers/sec and % Idle Time counters for the > > > > > PhysicalDisk performance object. If the Disk Transfers/sec counter > > > is > > > > > consistently below 150 while the % Idle Time counter remains very > > > low > > > > > (close to 0), there may be a problem with the disk driver or > > > hardware. > > > > > > If the review shows that the disk is functioning properly, use > > > Task > > > > > Manager to determine which processes are causing the majority of > > > the > > > > > disk activity. You can attempt to correct the problem by stopping > > > and > > > > > then restarting those processes. > > > > > > You can disable this alert or change its threshold by using the > > > Change > > > > > Alert Notifications task in the Server Management Monitoring and > > > > > Reporting taskpad." > > > > > > This is the second time in 3 months I have seen this for the main > > > > > drive, maybe the 1st. I have gotten it for another internal drive > > > > > maybe 2 times or 3. If so does that mean the drives are failing? > > > > > > Thanks
From: rossk on 22 Jan 2008 20:35 There is 2 internal disks and a raid. I will not talk about the raid as that will be moved soon. C: drive is 34GB and has 6.75GB free (doesnt change). E: is 203GB and has 36.9GB free (does change since exchange store is on there) Is this what you were looking for? Thanks On Jan 19, 3:04 am, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > bytes to kilobytes 1024 > KB to MB *1024 > MB to GB *1024 > 3 of them *3 > plus 12MB to allow a dump file, a bit. > > Theoretically, you could work out the exact byte amount and set the PF to > this value. There would be however very little benefit in doing so, add a > couple of hundred MB, it's close enough. > > Did you miss the bit about: > Please detail partition sizes and percentage free space. > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message > > news:80d0d8d7-a51f-4260-9009-ee78520fbfaa(a)i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > I am confused by this: > ((1024*1024*1024*3)+a bit) > Please explain. The server to be honest probably has not been > defragemented for 2 yrs min, if not more. The exchange store is on > the other drive so to defrag C: is not an issue. > > On Jan 18, 10:48 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > I'd probably put a single paging file of 3.2GB ((1024*1024*1024*3)+a bit) > > on > > the OS partition, min=max, then defrag it > > > PageDefrag > > v2.32http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897426.aspx > > > and monitor its usage. If monitoring suggests more paging file is > > required, > > create an additional 1GB file on your 2nd partition, and monitor use. > > > I don't think this will address your 'low idle time'. Please details > > partition sizes and percentage free space. > > > Fragmentation can also cause slow access. NTFS is _much_ less affected by > > fragmentation than other file systems but the idea that you saw this after > > some period of operation, then it went away, and is now again happening > > lends _some_ credence to _possible_ fragmentation problems. > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message > > >news:53d8df33-3085-49af-94b1-4a4901a7b999(a)h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > Just an FYI: > > Drive C: > > Initail size - 1920 MB > > Maximum size - 3840 MB > > > It says recomended is 4990 MB. Ideas? > > > On Jan 18, 7:13 pm, rossk <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote: > > > > I knew there was more reasons :) In anycase I have 2 drives c: and e: > > > I will increase both correct? > > > > On Jan 18, 5:37 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > > > alternately, there is a method of creating multiple page files on a > > > > single > > > > partitionhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740 > > > > How to overcome the 4,095 MB paging file size limit in Windows. > > > > > I disagree with Cris on two aspects of this: > > > > 1) that your paging file 'should' be as large as stated. Cris is > > > > referring > > > > to a long standing 'rule of thumb', that the paging file be 1.5 times > > > > real > > > > RAM. Your paging file will work optimally if it is no bigger than what > > > > is > > > > _required_. > > > > 2) is a mention rather than 'suggestion' Cris makes. I would make the > > > > page > > > > file on the OS partition no smaller than RAM+20MB, RAM+12 is the > > > > minimum > > > > for > > > > a full 'crash dump' file. > > > > > OH, and while I'm here, mention /3GB. I see the OP is _not_ using it > > > > and > > > > this is proper, he has though confused the reason. Most Exchange > > > > systems > > > > would benefit from the switch, SBS doesn't because it is also a DC > > > > (and > > > > a > > > > lot of other things) and sacrificing 'kernel' to allow apps greater > > > > 'user' > > > > space _in most cases_ starves the kernel, decreasing performance. > > > > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote > > > > in > > > > messagenews:u6XPu8hWIHA.2368(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > > What SG is referring to is that there is a limit of 4Gb page file on > > > > each > > > > partition > > > > So lets say that you have a C: Drive and a E: Drive > > > > You can create a 2GB on the C: Drive and 4 GB on the E: drive if you > > > > wanted > > > > a 6GB (2X the amount of physical memory) page file > > > > > -- > > > > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > Microsoft MVPs > > > > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > > > > Real World Answers > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > > "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote in > > > > messagenews:%23v8bxyhWIHA.4712(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > going to advise the OP how to get around the 4GB paging file limit > > > > then? > > > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote > > > > in > > > > messagenews:Ot$VTrhWIHA.1208(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > > Right click, My Computer > Properties > Advanced > Performance > > > > With 3 GB of memory > Page file should be 4.5 to 6 GB > > > > > -- > > > > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > Microsoft MVPs > > > > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > > > > Real World Answers > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in > > > > messagenews:7049498c-c464-49f7-b9d1-da150760d1e5(a)e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > > > > 3 GB is the total, I do NOT have the 3GB switch becuase I am also > > > > running exchange or at least thats why I think so. The system knwos 3 > > > > GB so I do not get the warning of "there is an application taking up > > > > too much memory". Page file I forgot? Where do I check that again? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > On Jan 16, 11:13 pm, "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" > > > > <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote: > > > > > And how much RAM in your system and what is the size of your page > > > > file? > > > > > > -- > > > > > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > MVPs Do Not Work for Microsoft > > > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > > "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <supp...(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in > > > > messagenews:emS4j7KWIHA.3420(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > From my Experience you shouldn't be getting these. > > > > > > What kind of Drives are they? > > > > > and how many users are on your Domain and what kind of access are > > > > they > > > > > doing? > > > > > > Russ > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Russell Grover > > > > > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > > > > > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > > > > > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > > > > > North America Remote SBS2003 Support -http://www.SBITS.Biz > > > > > > - > > > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in > > > > messagenews:f57f7861-023e-4314-bb97-1c06071ea303(a)f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > > > >I get this message once and awhile should i be concerened now? > > > > > > > "The following disk has low idle time, which may cause slow > > > > response > > > > > > time when reading or writing files to the disk. > > > > > > > Disk: 0 C: > > > > > > > Review the Disk Transfers/sec and % Idle Time counters for the > > > > > > PhysicalDisk performance object. If the Disk Transfers/sec counter > > > > is > > > > > > consistently below 150 while the % Idle Time counter remains very > > > > low > > > > > > (close to 0), there may be a problem with the disk driver or > > > > hardware. > > > > > > > If the review shows that the disk is functioning properly, use > > > > Task > > > > > > Manager to determine which processes are causing the majority of > > > > the > > > > > > disk activity. You can attempt to correct the problem by stopping > > > > and > > > > > > then restarting those processes. > > > > > > > You can disable this alert or change its threshold by using the > > > > Change > > > > > > Alert Notifications task in the Server Management Monitoring and > > > > > > Reporting taskpad." > > > > > > > This is the second time in 3 months I have seen this for the main > > > > > > drive, maybe the 1st. I have gotten it for another internal drive > > > > > > maybe 2 times or 3. If so does that mean the drives are failing? > > > > > > > Thanks
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