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From: SuperGumby [SBS MVP] on 23 Jan 2008 03:02 People have suggested to me that they see less impact than I suggest but my 'rule' is: NTFS works well at 40% free space. NTFS performance is effected by the time you get to 30% free space. NTFS performance is significantly effected at 20% free space. At 10% free space NTFS is crippled. Both disks have (only slightly) less then 20% free space and you are getting 'low idle time'. I'll leave out my conclusion, it's not relevent either. "rossk" <rkovelman(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message news:c97e84a0-1af6-4578-a291-6b5e232c6b93(a)e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com... There is 2 internal disks and a raid. I will not talk about the raid as that will be moved soon. C: drive is 34GB and has 6.75GB free (doesnt change). E: is 203GB and has 36.9GB free (does change since exchange store is on there) Is this what you were looking for? Thanks On Jan 19, 3:04 am, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > bytes to kilobytes 1024 > KB to MB *1024 > MB to GB *1024 > 3 of them *3 > plus 12MB to allow a dump file, a bit. > > Theoretically, you could work out the exact byte amount and set the PF to > this value. There would be however very little benefit in doing so, add a > couple of hundred MB, it's close enough. > > Did you miss the bit about: > Please detail partition sizes and percentage free space. > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message > > news:80d0d8d7-a51f-4260-9009-ee78520fbfaa(a)i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > I am confused by this: > ((1024*1024*1024*3)+a bit) > Please explain. The server to be honest probably has not been > defragemented for 2 yrs min, if not more. The exchange store is on > the other drive so to defrag C: is not an issue. > > On Jan 18, 10:48 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > I'd probably put a single paging file of 3.2GB ((1024*1024*1024*3)+a > > bit) > > on > > the OS partition, min=max, then defrag it > > > PageDefrag > > v2.32http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897426.aspx > > > and monitor its usage. If monitoring suggests more paging file is > > required, > > create an additional 1GB file on your 2nd partition, and monitor use. > > > I don't think this will address your 'low idle time'. Please details > > partition sizes and percentage free space. > > > Fragmentation can also cause slow access. NTFS is _much_ less affected > > by > > fragmentation than other file systems but the idea that you saw this > > after > > some period of operation, then it went away, and is now again happening > > lends _some_ credence to _possible_ fragmentation problems. > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message > > >news:53d8df33-3085-49af-94b1-4a4901a7b999(a)h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > Just an FYI: > > Drive C: > > Initail size - 1920 MB > > Maximum size - 3840 MB > > > It says recomended is 4990 MB. Ideas? > > > On Jan 18, 7:13 pm, rossk <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote: > > > > I knew there was more reasons :) In anycase I have 2 drives c: and e: > > > I will increase both correct? > > > > On Jan 18, 5:37 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > > > alternately, there is a method of creating multiple page files on a > > > > single > > > > partitionhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740 > > > > How to overcome the 4,095 MB paging file size limit in Windows. > > > > > I disagree with Cris on two aspects of this: > > > > 1) that your paging file 'should' be as large as stated. Cris is > > > > referring > > > > to a long standing 'rule of thumb', that the paging file be 1.5 > > > > times > > > > real > > > > RAM. Your paging file will work optimally if it is no bigger than > > > > what > > > > is > > > > _required_. > > > > 2) is a mention rather than 'suggestion' Cris makes. I would make > > > > the > > > > page > > > > file on the OS partition no smaller than RAM+20MB, RAM+12 is the > > > > minimum > > > > for > > > > a full 'crash dump' file. > > > > > OH, and while I'm here, mention /3GB. I see the OP is _not_ using it > > > > and > > > > this is proper, he has though confused the reason. Most Exchange > > > > systems > > > > would benefit from the switch, SBS doesn't because it is also a DC > > > > (and > > > > a > > > > lot of other things) and sacrificing 'kernel' to allow apps greater > > > > 'user' > > > > space _in most cases_ starves the kernel, decreasing performance. > > > > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote > > > > in > > > > messagenews:u6XPu8hWIHA.2368(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > > What SG is referring to is that there is a limit of 4Gb page file on > > > > each > > > > partition > > > > So lets say that you have a C: Drive and a E: Drive > > > > You can create a 2GB on the C: Drive and 4 GB on the E: drive if you > > > > wanted > > > > a 6GB (2X the amount of physical memory) page file > > > > > -- > > > > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > Microsoft MVPs > > > > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > > > > Real World Answers > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > > "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote in > > > > messagenews:%23v8bxyhWIHA.4712(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > going to advise the OP how to get around the 4GB paging file limit > > > > then? > > > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote > > > > in > > > > messagenews:Ot$VTrhWIHA.1208(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > > Right click, My Computer > Properties > Advanced > Performance > > > > With 3 GB of memory > Page file should be 4.5 to 6 GB > > > > > -- > > > > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > Microsoft MVPs > > > > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > > > > Real World Answers > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in > > > > messagenews:7049498c-c464-49f7-b9d1-da150760d1e5(a)e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > > > > 3 GB is the total, I do NOT have the 3GB switch becuase I am also > > > > running exchange or at least thats why I think so. The system knwos > > > > 3 > > > > GB so I do not get the warning of "there is an application taking up > > > > too much memory". Page file I forgot? Where do I check that again? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > On Jan 16, 11:13 pm, "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" > > > > <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote: > > > > > And how much RAM in your system and what is the size of your page > > > > file? > > > > > > -- > > > > > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > MVPs Do Not Work for Microsoft > > > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > > "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <supp...(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in > > > > messagenews:emS4j7KWIHA.3420(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > From my Experience you shouldn't be getting these. > > > > > > What kind of Drives are they? > > > > > and how many users are on your Domain and what kind of access are > > > > they > > > > > doing? > > > > > > Russ > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Russell Grover > > > > > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > > > > > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > > > > > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > > > > > North America Remote SBS2003 Support -http://www.SBITS.Biz > > > > > > - > > > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in > > > > messagenews:f57f7861-023e-4314-bb97-1c06071ea303(a)f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > > > >I get this message once and awhile should i be concerened now? > > > > > > > "The following disk has low idle time, which may cause slow > > > > response > > > > > > time when reading or writing files to the disk. > > > > > > > Disk: 0 C: > > > > > > > Review the Disk Transfers/sec and % Idle Time counters for the > > > > > > PhysicalDisk performance object. If the Disk Transfers/sec > > > > > > counter > > > > is > > > > > > consistently below 150 while the % Idle Time counter remains > > > > > > very > > > > low > > > > > > (close to 0), there may be a problem with the disk driver or > > > > hardware. > > > > > > > If the review shows that the disk is functioning properly, use > > > > Task > > > > > > Manager to determine which processes are causing the majority of > > > > the > > > > > > disk activity. You can attempt to correct the problem by > > > > > > stopping > > > > and > > > > > > then restarting those processes. > > > > > > > You can disable this alert or change its threshold by using the > > > > Change > > > > > > Alert Notifications task in the Server Management Monitoring and > > > > > > Reporting taskpad." > > > > > > > This is the second time in 3 months I have seen this for the > > > > > > main > > > > > > drive, maybe the 1st. I have gotten it for another internal > > > > > > drive > > > > > > maybe 2 times or 3. If so does that mean the drives are failing? > > > > > > > Thanks
From: rossk on 23 Jan 2008 17:37 I am confused as to what that has to do with PF? Or how is Page file and disk size tied into low idle time? On Jan 23, 3:02 am, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > People have suggested to me that they see less impact than I suggest but my > 'rule' is: > > NTFS works well at 40% free space. > NTFS performance is effected by the time you get to 30% free space. > NTFS performance is significantly effected at 20% free space. > At 10% free space NTFS is crippled. > > Both disks have (only slightly) less then 20% free space and you are getting > 'low idle time'. > > I'll leave out my conclusion, it's not relevent either. > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message > > news:c97e84a0-1af6-4578-a291-6b5e232c6b93(a)e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > There is 2 internal disks and a raid. I will not talk about the raid > as that will be moved soon. C: drive is 34GB and has 6.75GB free > (doesnt change). E: is 203GB and has 36.9GB free (does change since > exchange store is on there) > > Is this what you were looking for? > > Thanks > > On Jan 19, 3:04 am, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > bytes to kilobytes 1024 > > KB to MB *1024 > > MB to GB *1024 > > 3 of them *3 > > plus 12MB to allow a dump file, a bit. > > > Theoretically, you could work out the exact byte amount and set the PF to > > this value. There would be however very little benefit in doing so, add a > > couple of hundred MB, it's close enough. > > > Did you miss the bit about: > > Please detail partition sizes and percentage free space. > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message > > >news:80d0d8d7-a51f-4260-9009-ee78520fbfaa(a)i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > I am confused by this: > > ((1024*1024*1024*3)+a bit) > > Please explain. The server to be honest probably has not been > > defragemented for 2 yrs min, if not more. The exchange store is on > > the other drive so to defrag C: is not an issue. > > > On Jan 18, 10:48 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > > I'd probably put a single paging file of 3.2GB ((1024*1024*1024*3)+a > > > bit) > > > on > > > the OS partition, min=max, then defrag it > > > > PageDefrag > > > v2.32http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897426.aspx > > > > and monitor its usage. If monitoring suggests more paging file is > > > required, > > > create an additional 1GB file on your 2nd partition, and monitor use. > > > > I don't think this will address your 'low idle time'. Please details > > > partition sizes and percentage free space. > > > > Fragmentation can also cause slow access. NTFS is _much_ less affected > > > by > > > fragmentation than other file systems but the idea that you saw this > > > after > > > some period of operation, then it went away, and is now again happening > > > lends _some_ credence to _possible_ fragmentation problems. > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message > > > >news:53d8df33-3085-49af-94b1-4a4901a7b999(a)h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com.... > > > Just an FYI: > > > Drive C: > > > Initail size - 1920 MB > > > Maximum size - 3840 MB > > > > It says recomended is 4990 MB. Ideas? > > > > On Jan 18, 7:13 pm, rossk <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote: > > > > > I knew there was more reasons :) In anycase I have 2 drives c: and e: > > > > I will increase both correct? > > > > > On Jan 18, 5:37 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > > > > alternately, there is a method of creating multiple page files on a > > > > > single > > > > > partitionhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740 > > > > > How to overcome the 4,095 MB paging file size limit in Windows. > > > > > > I disagree with Cris on two aspects of this: > > > > > 1) that your paging file 'should' be as large as stated. Cris is > > > > > referring > > > > > to a long standing 'rule of thumb', that the paging file be 1.5 > > > > > times > > > > > real > > > > > RAM. Your paging file will work optimally if it is no bigger than > > > > > what > > > > > is > > > > > _required_. > > > > > 2) is a mention rather than 'suggestion' Cris makes. I would make > > > > > the > > > > > page > > > > > file on the OS partition no smaller than RAM+20MB, RAM+12 is the > > > > > minimum > > > > > for > > > > > a full 'crash dump' file. > > > > > > OH, and while I'm here, mention /3GB. I see the OP is _not_ using it > > > > > and > > > > > this is proper, he has though confused the reason. Most Exchange > > > > > systems > > > > > would benefit from the switch, SBS doesn't because it is also a DC > > > > > (and > > > > > a > > > > > lot of other things) and sacrificing 'kernel' to allow apps greater > > > > > 'user' > > > > > space _in most cases_ starves the kernel, decreasing performance. > > > > > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote > > > > > in > > > > > messagenews:u6XPu8hWIHA.2368(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > > > What SG is referring to is that there is a limit of 4Gb page file on > > > > > each > > > > > partition > > > > > So lets say that you have a C: Drive and a E: Drive > > > > > You can create a 2GB on the C: Drive and 4 GB on the E: drive if you > > > > > wanted > > > > > a 6GB (2X the amount of physical memory) page file > > > > > > -- > > > > > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Microsoft MVPs > > > > > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > > > > > Real World Answers > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > > > "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote in > > > > > messagenews:%23v8bxyhWIHA.4712(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > > going to advise the OP how to get around the 4GB paging file limit > > > > > then? > > > > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote > > > > > in > > > > > messagenews:Ot$VTrhWIHA.1208(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > > > Right click, My Computer > Properties > Advanced > Performance > > > > > With 3 GB of memory > Page file should be 4.5 to 6 GB > > > > > > -- > > > > > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Microsoft MVPs > > > > > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > > > > > Real World Answers > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in > > > > > messagenews:7049498c-c464-49f7-b9d1-da150760d1e5(a)e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > > > > > 3 GB is the total, I do NOT have the 3GB switch becuase I am also > > > > > running exchange or at least thats why I think so. The system knwos > > > > > 3 > > > > > GB so I do not get the warning of "there is an application taking up > > > > > too much memory". Page file I forgot? Where do I check that again? > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > On Jan 16, 11:13 pm, "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" > > > > > <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote: > > > > > > And how much RAM in your system and what is the size of your page > > > > > file? > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > MVPs Do Not Work for Microsoft > > > > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > > > "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <supp...(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in > > > > > messagenews:emS4j7KWIHA.3420(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > > From my Experience you shouldn't be getting these. > > > > > > > What kind of Drives are they? > > > > > > and how many users are on your Domain and what kind of access are > > > > > they > > > > > > doing? > > > > > > > Russ > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Russell Grover > > > > > > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > > > > > > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > > > > > > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > > > > > > North America Remote SBS2003 Support -http://www.SBITS.Biz > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in > > > > > messagenews:f57f7861-023e-4314-bb97-1c06071ea303(a)f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > >I get this message once and awhile should i be concerened now? > > > > > > > > "The following disk has low idle time, which may cause slow > > > > > response > > > > > > > time when reading or writing files to the disk. > > > > > > > > Disk: 0 C: > > > > > > > > Review the Disk Transfers/sec and % Idle Time counters for the > > > > > > > PhysicalDisk performance object. If the Disk Transfers/sec > > > > > > > counter > > > > > is > > > > > > > consistently below 150 while the % Idle Time counter remains > > > > > > > very > > > > > low > > > > > > > (close to 0), there may be a problem with the disk driver or > > > > > hardware. > > > > > > > > If the review shows that the disk is functioning properly, use > > > > > Task > > > > > > > Manager to determine which processes are causing the majority of > > > > > the > > > > > > > disk activity. You can attempt to correct the problem by > > > > > > > stopping > > > > > and > > > > > > > then restarting those processes. > > > > > > > > You can disable this alert or change its threshold by using the > > > > > Change > > > > > > > Alert Notifications task in the Server Management Monitoring and > > > > > > > Reporting taskpad." > > > > > > > > This is the second time in 3 months I have seen this for the > > > > > > > main > > > > > > > drive, maybe the 1st. I have gotten it for another internal > > > > > > > drive > > > > > > > maybe 2 times or 3. If so does that mean the drives are failing? > > > > > > > > Thanks
From: rossk on 2 Feb 2008 01:09 To fix the issue I have found: Min and Max page file MUST be the same and MUST be equal to the amount of memory in the server. This was according to a KB article. I also found and moved data off the C:\ drive that was mostly temp folders so now out of a 30GB HD I have 15GB free or 50%. Thanks for the help those have given On Jan 23, 5:37 pm, rossk <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote: > I am confused as to what that has to do with PF? Or how is Page file > and disk size tied into low idle time? > > On Jan 23, 3:02 am, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > People have suggested to me that they see less impact than I suggest but my > > 'rule' is: > > > NTFS works well at 40% free space. > > NTFS performance is effected by the time you get to 30% free space. > > NTFS performance is significantly effected at 20% free space. > > At 10% free space NTFS is crippled. > > > Both disks have (only slightly) less then 20% free space and you are getting > > 'low idle time'. > > > I'll leave out my conclusion, it's not relevent either. > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message > > >news:c97e84a0-1af6-4578-a291-6b5e232c6b93(a)e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > There is 2 internal disks and a raid. I will not talk about the raid > > as that will be moved soon. C: drive is 34GB and has 6.75GB free > > (doesnt change). E: is 203GB and has 36.9GB free (does change since > > exchange store is on there) > > > Is this what you were looking for? > > > Thanks > > > On Jan 19, 3:04 am, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > > bytes to kilobytes 1024 > > > KB to MB *1024 > > > MB to GB *1024 > > > 3 of them *3 > > > plus 12MB to allow a dump file, a bit. > > > > Theoretically, you could work out the exact byte amount and set the PF to > > > this value. There would be however very little benefit in doing so, add a > > > couple of hundred MB, it's close enough. > > > > Did you miss the bit about: > > > Please detail partition sizes and percentage free space. > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message > > > >news:80d0d8d7-a51f-4260-9009-ee78520fbfaa(a)i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com.... > > > I am confused by this: > > > ((1024*1024*1024*3)+a bit) > > > Please explain. The server to be honest probably has not been > > > defragemented for 2 yrs min, if not more. The exchange store is on > > > the other drive so to defrag C: is not an issue. > > > > On Jan 18, 10:48 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > > > I'd probably put a single paging file of 3.2GB ((1024*1024*1024*3)+a > > > > bit) > > > > on > > > > the OS partition, min=max, then defrag it > > > > > PageDefrag > > > > v2.32http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897426.aspx > > > > > and monitor its usage. If monitoring suggests more paging file is > > > > required, > > > > create an additional 1GB file on your 2nd partition, and monitor use.. > > > > > I don't think this will address your 'low idle time'. Please details > > > > partition sizes and percentage free space. > > > > > Fragmentation can also cause slow access. NTFS is _much_ less affected > > > > by > > > > fragmentation than other file systems but the idea that you saw this > > > > after > > > > some period of operation, then it went away, and is now again happening > > > > lends _some_ credence to _possible_ fragmentation problems. > > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message > > > > >news:53d8df33-3085-49af-94b1-4a4901a7b999(a)h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > > > Just an FYI: > > > > Drive C: > > > > Initail size - 1920 MB > > > > Maximum size - 3840 MB > > > > > It says recomended is 4990 MB. Ideas? > > > > > On Jan 18, 7:13 pm, rossk <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote: > > > > > > I knew there was more reasons :) In anycase I have 2 drives c: and e: > > > > > I will increase both correct? > > > > > > On Jan 18, 5:37 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > > > > > alternately, there is a method of creating multiple page files on a > > > > > > single > > > > > > partitionhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740 > > > > > > How to overcome the 4,095 MB paging file size limit in Windows. > > > > > > > I disagree with Cris on two aspects of this: > > > > > > 1) that your paging file 'should' be as large as stated. Cris is > > > > > > referring > > > > > > to a long standing 'rule of thumb', that the paging file be 1.5 > > > > > > times > > > > > > real > > > > > > RAM. Your paging file will work optimally if it is no bigger than > > > > > > what > > > > > > is > > > > > > _required_. > > > > > > 2) is a mention rather than 'suggestion' Cris makes. I would make > > > > > > the > > > > > > page > > > > > > file on the OS partition no smaller than RAM+20MB, RAM+12 is the > > > > > > minimum > > > > > > for > > > > > > a full 'crash dump' file. > > > > > > > OH, and while I'm here, mention /3GB. I see the OP is _not_ using it > > > > > > and > > > > > > this is proper, he has though confused the reason. Most Exchange > > > > > > systems > > > > > > would benefit from the switch, SBS doesn't because it is also a DC > > > > > > (and > > > > > > a > > > > > > lot of other things) and sacrificing 'kernel' to allow apps greater > > > > > > 'user' > > > > > > space _in most cases_ starves the kernel, decreasing performance.. > > > > > > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote > > > > > > in > > > > > > messagenews:u6XPu8hWIHA.2368(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > > > > What SG is referring to is that there is a limit of 4Gb page file on > > > > > > each > > > > > > partition > > > > > > So lets say that you have a C: Drive and a E: Drive > > > > > > You can create a 2GB on the C: Drive and 4 GB on the E: drive if you > > > > > > wanted > > > > > > a 6GB (2X the amount of physical memory) page file > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Microsoft MVPs > > > > > > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > > > > > > Real World Answers > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > > > > "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote in > > > > > > messagenews:%23v8bxyhWIHA.4712(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > > > going to advise the OP how to get around the 4GB paging file limit > > > > > > then? > > > > > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote > > > > > > in > > > > > > messagenews:Ot$VTrhWIHA.1208(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > > > > Right click, My Computer > Properties > Advanced > Performance > > > > > > With 3 GB of memory > Page file should be 4.5 to 6 GB > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Microsoft MVPs > > > > > > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > > > > > > Real World Answers > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in > > > > > > messagenews:7049498c-c464-49f7-b9d1-da150760d1e5(a)e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > 3 GB is the total, I do NOT have the 3GB switch becuase I am also > > > > > > running exchange or at least thats why I think so. The system knwos > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > GB so I do not get the warning of "there is an application taking up > > > > > > too much memory". Page file I forgot? Where do I check that again? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > On Jan 16, 11:13 pm, "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" > > > > > > <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote: > > > > > > > And how much RAM in your system and what is the size of your page > > > > > > file? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > MVPs Do Not Work for Microsoft > > > > > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > > > > "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <supp...(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in > > > > > > messagenews:emS4j7KWIHA.3420(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > From my Experience you shouldn't be getting these. > > > > > > > > What kind of Drives are they? > > > > > > > and how many users are on your Domain and what kind of access are > > > > > > they > > > > > > > doing? > > > > > > > > Russ > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Russell Grover > > > > > > > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > > > > > > > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > > > > > > > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > > > > > > > North America Remote SBS2003 Support -http://www.SBITS.Biz > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in > > > > > > messagenews:f57f7861-023e-4314-bb97-1c06071ea303(a)f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > >I get this message once and awhile should i be concerened now? > > > > > > > > > "The following disk has low idle time, which may cause slow > > > > > > response > > > > > > > > time when reading or writing files to the disk. > > > > > > > > > Disk: 0 C: > > > > > > > > > Review the Disk Transfers/sec and % Idle Time counters for the > > > > > > > > PhysicalDisk performance object. If the Disk Transfers/sec > > > > > > > > counter > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > consistently below 150 while the % Idle Time counter remains > > > > > > > > very > > > > > > low > > > > > > > > (close to 0), there may be a problem with the disk driver or > > > > > > hardware. > > > > > > > > > If the review shows that the disk is functioning properly, use > > > > > > Task > > > > > > > > Manager to determine which processes are causing the majority of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > disk activity. You can attempt to correct the problem by > > > > > > > > stopping > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > then restarting those processes. > > > > > > > > > You can disable this alert or change its threshold by using the > > > > > > Change > > > > > > > > Alert Notifications task in the Server Management Monitoring and > > > > > > > > Reporting taskpad." > > > > > > > > > This is the second time in 3 months I have seen this for the > > > > > > > > main > > > > > > > > drive, maybe the 1st. I have gotten it for another internal > > > > > > > > drive > > > > > > > > maybe 2 times or 3. If so does that mean the drives are failing? > > > > > > > > > Thanks
From: SuperGumby [SBS MVP] on 1 Feb 2008 02:36 I disagree with both 'musts' and would like to be pointed to the KB article you interpret as suggesting such. You have more work ahead of you, identifying what is leaving all those temp files behind, controlling it somehow. Curious. Was it a large number of temp files in the base %temp% directory or was it files in folders? I ask because YES, it is a known thing, the more files in a folder the more processing it takes to create new or manipulate existing. This isn't normally a problem until you hit a folder with GAZILLION files in it, even a gazillion 0 bit/byte files can be problematic. NTFS is not quite 'a database' but it has similarities to them (as does any file system really). The bigger your INDEXES the more processing required. More processing can lead to your 'low idle time'. I think most of the PF discussion was a red herring, I had to point out some misunderstandings is all. "rossk" <rkovelman(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message news:6e7b7217-2792-4f05-b65b-dd8d3c343ba4(a)k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com... To fix the issue I have found: Min and Max page file MUST be the same and MUST be equal to the amount of memory in the server. This was according to a KB article. I also found and moved data off the C:\ drive that was mostly temp folders so now out of a 30GB HD I have 15GB free or 50%. Thanks for the help those have given On Jan 23, 5:37 pm, rossk <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote: > I am confused as to what that has to do with PF? Or how is Page file > and disk size tied into low idle time? > > On Jan 23, 3:02 am, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > People have suggested to me that they see less impact than I suggest but my > > 'rule' is: > > > NTFS works well at 40% free space. > > NTFS performance is effected by the time you get to 30% free space. > > NTFS performance is significantly effected at 20% free space. > > At 10% free space NTFS is crippled. > > > Both disks have (only slightly) less then 20% free space and you are getting > > 'low idle time'. > > > I'll leave out my conclusion, it's not relevent either. > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message > > >news:c97e84a0-1af6-4578-a291-6b5e232c6b93(a)e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > There is 2 internal disks and a raid. I will not talk about the raid > > as that will be moved soon. C: drive is 34GB and has 6.75GB free > > (doesnt change). E: is 203GB and has 36.9GB free (does change since > > exchange store is on there) > > > Is this what you were looking for? > > > Thanks > > > On Jan 19, 3:04 am, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > > bytes to kilobytes 1024 > > > KB to MB *1024 > > > MB to GB *1024 > > > 3 of them *3 > > > plus 12MB to allow a dump file, a bit. > > > > Theoretically, you could work out the exact byte amount and set the PF to > > > this value. There would be however very little benefit in doing so, add a > > > couple of hundred MB, it's close enough. > > > > Did you miss the bit about: > > > Please detail partition sizes and percentage free space. > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message > > > >news:80d0d8d7-a51f-4260-9009-ee78520fbfaa(a)i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > > I am confused by this: > > > ((1024*1024*1024*3)+a bit) > > > Please explain. The server to be honest probably has not been > > > defragemented for 2 yrs min, if not more. The exchange store is on > > > the other drive so to defrag C: is not an issue. > > > > On Jan 18, 10:48 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > > > I'd probably put a single paging file of 3.2GB ((1024*1024*1024*3)+a > > > > bit) > > > > on > > > > the OS partition, min=max, then defrag it > > > > > PageDefrag > > > > v2.32http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897426.aspx > > > > > and monitor its usage. If monitoring suggests more paging file is > > > > required, > > > > create an additional 1GB file on your 2nd partition, and monitor use. > > > > > I don't think this will address your 'low idle time'. Please details > > > > partition sizes and percentage free space. > > > > > Fragmentation can also cause slow access. NTFS is _much_ less affected > > > > by > > > > fragmentation than other file systems but the idea that you saw this > > > > after > > > > some period of operation, then it went away, and is now again happening > > > > lends _some_ credence to _possible_ fragmentation problems. > > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message > > > > >news:53d8df33-3085-49af-94b1-4a4901a7b999(a)h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > > > Just an FYI: > > > > Drive C: > > > > Initail size - 1920 MB > > > > Maximum size - 3840 MB > > > > > It says recomended is 4990 MB. Ideas? > > > > > On Jan 18, 7:13 pm, rossk <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote: > > > > > > I knew there was more reasons :) In anycase I have 2 drives c: and e: > > > > > I will increase both correct? > > > > > > On Jan 18, 5:37 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > > > > > alternately, there is a method of creating multiple page files on a > > > > > > single > > > > > > partitionhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740 > > > > > > How to overcome the 4,095 MB paging file size limit in Windows. > > > > > > > I disagree with Cris on two aspects of this: > > > > > > 1) that your paging file 'should' be as large as stated. Cris is > > > > > > referring > > > > > > to a long standing 'rule of thumb', that the paging file be 1.5 > > > > > > times > > > > > > real > > > > > > RAM. Your paging file will work optimally if it is no bigger than > > > > > > what > > > > > > is > > > > > > _required_. > > > > > > 2) is a mention rather than 'suggestion' Cris makes. I would make > > > > > > the > > > > > > page > > > > > > file on the OS partition no smaller than RAM+20MB, RAM+12 is the > > > > > > minimum > > > > > > for > > > > > > a full 'crash dump' file. > > > > > > > OH, and while I'm here, mention /3GB. I see the OP is _not_ using it > > > > > > and > > > > > > this is proper, he has though confused the reason. Most Exchange > > > > > > systems > > > > > > would benefit from the switch, SBS doesn't because it is also a DC > > > > > > (and > > > > > > a > > > > > > lot of other things) and sacrificing 'kernel' to allow apps greater > > > > > > 'user' > > > > > > space _in most cases_ starves the kernel, decreasing performance. > > > > > > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote > > > > > > in > > > > > > messagenews:u6XPu8hWIHA.2368(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > > > > What SG is referring to is that there is a limit of 4Gb page file on > > > > > > each > > > > > > partition > > > > > > So lets say that you have a C: Drive and a E: Drive > > > > > > You can create a 2GB on the C: Drive and 4 GB on the E: drive if you > > > > > > wanted > > > > > > a 6GB (2X the amount of physical memory) page file > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Microsoft MVPs > > > > > > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > > > > > > Real World Answers > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > > > > "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote in > > > > > > messagenews:%23v8bxyhWIHA.4712(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > > > going to advise the OP how to get around the 4GB paging file limit > > > > > > then? > > > > > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote > > > > > > in > > > > > > messagenews:Ot$VTrhWIHA.1208(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > > > > Right click, My Computer > Properties > Advanced > Performance > > > > > > With 3 GB of memory > Page file should be 4.5 to 6 GB > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Microsoft MVPs > > > > > > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > > > > > > Real World Answers > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in > > > > > > messagenews:7049498c-c464-49f7-b9d1-da150760d1e5(a)e25g2000prg.googlegroups.co m... > > > > > > 3 GB is the total, I do NOT have the 3GB switch becuase I am also > > > > > > running exchange or at least thats why I think so. The system knwos > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > GB so I do not get the warning of "there is an application taking up > > > > > > too much memory". Page file I forgot? Where do I check that again? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > On Jan 16, 11:13 pm, "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" > > > > > > <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote: > > > > > > > And how much RAM in your system and what is the size of your page > > > > > > file? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > MVPs Do Not Work for Microsoft > > > > > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > > > > "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <supp...(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in > > > > > > messagenews:emS4j7KWIHA.3420(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > From my Experience you shouldn't be getting these. > > > > > > > > What kind of Drives are they? > > > > > > > and how many users are on your Domain and what kind of access are > > > > > > they > > > > > > > doing? > > > > > > > > Russ > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Russell Grover > > > > > > > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > > > > > > > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > > > > > > > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > > > > > > > North America Remote SBS2003 Support -http://www.SBITS.Biz > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in > > > > > > messagenews:f57f7861-023e-4314-bb97-1c06071ea303(a)f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.co m... > > > > > > > >I get this message once and awhile should i be concerened now? > > > > > > > > > "The following disk has low idle time, which may cause slow > > > > > > response > > > > > > > > time when reading or writing files to the disk. > > > > > > > > > Disk: 0 C: > > > > > > > > > Review the Disk Transfers/sec and % Idle Time counters for the > > > > > > > > PhysicalDisk performance object. If the Disk Transfers/sec > > > > > > > > counter > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > consistently below 150 while the % Idle Time counter remains > > > > > > > > very > > > > > > low > > > > > > > > (close to 0), there may be a problem with the disk driver or > > > > > > hardware. > > > > > > > > > If the review shows that the disk is functioning properly, use > > > > > > Task > > > > > > > > Manager to determine which processes are causing the majority of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > disk activity. You can attempt to correct the problem by > > > > > > > > stopping > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > then restarting those processes. > > > > > > > > > You can disable this alert or change its threshold by using the > > > > > > Change > > > > > > > > Alert Notifications task in the Server Management Monitoring and > > > > > > > > Reporting taskpad." > > > > > > > > > This is the second time in 3 months I have seen this for the > > > > > > > > main > > > > > > > > drive, maybe the 1st. I have gotten it for another internal > > > > > > > > drive > > > > > > > > maybe 2 times or 3. If so does that mean the drives are failing? > > > > > > > > > Thanks
From: rossk on 1 Feb 2008 08:58 Its not a KB article but when I ran the SBS best practice it also notified me of the PF being small. This is what it states in the menu: The space for the paging file (3840) is larger than the physical memory (3327). This may affect the system performance. It is recommended to have paging file size equal to the physical memory. If you look up more information it opens the ExBPA help me file and : To prevent page file fragmentation, we recommend that you set the paging file size initial and maximum values to be the same value. If you reduce the size of either the initial or maximum page file settings, you must restart your computer to see the effects of those changes. Increases typically do not require a restart. The log files I cleaned (not deleted) were old IIS logs since the server was brought to life and some old CA logs that took up a ton of space. Need any more information? ~Ross On Feb 1, 2:36 am, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > I disagree with both 'musts' and would like to be pointed to the KB article > you interpret as suggesting such. > > You have more work ahead of you, identifying what is leaving all those temp > files behind, controlling it somehow. > > Curious. Was it a large number of temp files in the base %temp% directory or > was it files in folders? I ask because YES, it is a known thing, the more > files in a folder the more processing it takes to create new or manipulate > existing. This isn't normally a problem until you hit a folder with > GAZILLION files in it, even a gazillion 0 bit/byte files can be problematic. > NTFS is not quite 'a database' but it has similarities to them (as does any > file system really). The bigger your INDEXES the more processing required. > More processing can lead to your 'low idle time'. > > I think most of the PF discussion was a red herring, I had to point out some > misunderstandings is all. > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message > > news:6e7b7217-2792-4f05-b65b-dd8d3c343ba4(a)k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > To fix the issue I have found: > > Min and Max page file MUST be the same and MUST be equal to the amount > of memory in the server. This was according to a KB article. > > I also found and moved data off the C:\ drive that was mostly temp > folders so now out of a 30GB HD I have 15GB free or 50%. > > Thanks for the help those have given > > On Jan 23, 5:37 pm, rossk <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote: > > > I am confused as to what that has to do with PF? Or how is Page file > > and disk size tied into low idle time? > > > On Jan 23, 3:02 am, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > > People have suggested to me that they see less impact than I suggest but > my > > > 'rule' is: > > > > NTFS works well at 40% free space. > > > NTFS performance is effected by the time you get to 30% free space. > > > NTFS performance is significantly effected at 20% free space. > > > At 10% free space NTFS is crippled. > > > > Both disks have (only slightly) less then 20% free space and you are > getting > > > 'low idle time'. > > > > I'll leave out my conclusion, it's not relevent either. > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message > > > >news:c97e84a0-1af6-4578-a291-6b5e232c6b93(a)e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com.... > > > There is 2 internal disks and a raid. I will not talk about the raid > > > as that will be moved soon. C: drive is 34GB and has 6.75GB free > > > (doesnt change). E: is 203GB and has 36.9GB free (does change since > > > exchange store is on there) > > > > Is this what you were looking for? > > > > Thanks > > > > On Jan 19, 3:04 am, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > > > bytes to kilobytes 1024 > > > > KB to MB *1024 > > > > MB to GB *1024 > > > > 3 of them *3 > > > > plus 12MB to allow a dump file, a bit. > > > > > Theoretically, you could work out the exact byte amount and set the PF > to > > > > this value. There would be however very little benefit in doing so, > add a > > > > couple of hundred MB, it's close enough. > > > > > Did you miss the bit about: > > > > Please detail partition sizes and percentage free space. > > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message > > >news:80d0d8d7-a51f-4260-9009-ee78520fbfaa(a)i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > > > I am confused by this: > > > > ((1024*1024*1024*3)+a bit) > > > > Please explain. The server to be honest probably has not been > > > > defragemented for 2 yrs min, if not more. The exchange store is on > > > > the other drive so to defrag C: is not an issue. > > > > > On Jan 18, 10:48 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote: > > > > > > I'd probably put a single paging file of 3.2GB ((1024*1024*1024*3)+a > > > > > bit) > > > > > on > > > > > the OS partition, min=max, then defrag it > > > > > > PageDefrag > > > > > v2.32http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897426.aspx > > > > > > and monitor its usage. If monitoring suggests more paging file is > > > > > required, > > > > > create an additional 1GB file on your 2nd partition, and monitor > use. > > > > > > I don't think this will address your 'low idle time'. Please details > > > > > partition sizes and percentage free space. > > > > > > Fragmentation can also cause slow access. NTFS is _much_ less > affected > > > > > by > > > > > fragmentation than other file systems but the idea that you saw this > > > > > after > > > > > some period of operation, then it went away, and is now again > happening > > > > > lends _some_ credence to _possible_ fragmentation problems. > > > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in message > > >news:53d8df33-3085-49af-94b1-4a4901a7b999(a)h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > > > > Just an FYI: > > > > > Drive C: > > > > > Initail size - 1920 MB > > > > > Maximum size - 3840 MB > > > > > > It says recomended is 4990 MB. Ideas? > > > > > > On Jan 18, 7:13 pm, rossk <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I knew there was more reasons :) In anycase I have 2 drives c: and > e: > > > > > > I will increase both correct? > > > > > > > On Jan 18, 5:37 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> > wrote: > > > > > > > > alternately, there is a method of creating multiple page files > on a > > > > > > > single > > > > > > > partitionhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740 > > > > > > > How to overcome the 4,095 MB paging file size limit in Windows.. > > > > > > > > I disagree with Cris on two aspects of this: > > > > > > > 1) that your paging file 'should' be as large as stated. Cris is > > > > > > > referring > > > > > > > to a long standing 'rule of thumb', that the paging file be 1.5 > > > > > > > times > > > > > > > real > > > > > > > RAM. Your paging file will work optimally if it is no bigger > than > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > _required_. > > > > > > > 2) is a mention rather than 'suggestion' Cris makes. I would > make > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > page > > > > > > > file on the OS partition no smaller than RAM+20MB, RAM+12 is the > > > > > > > minimum > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > a full 'crash dump' file. > > > > > > > > OH, and while I'm here, mention /3GB. I see the OP is _not_ > using it > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > this is proper, he has though confused the reason. Most Exchange > > > > > > > systems > > > > > > > would benefit from the switch, SBS doesn't because it is also a > DC > > > > > > > (and > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > lot of other things) and sacrificing 'kernel' to allow apps > greater > > > > > > > 'user' > > > > > > > space _in most cases_ starves the kernel, decreasing > performance. > > > > > > > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> > wrote > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > messagenews:u6XPu8hWIHA.2368(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > What SG is referring to is that there is a limit of 4Gb page > file on > > > > > > > each > > > > > > > partition > > > > > > > So lets say that you have a C: Drive and a E: Drive > > > > > > > You can create a 2GB on the C: Drive and 4 GB on the E: drive if > you > > > > > > > wanted > > > > > > > a 6GB (2X the amount of physical memory) page file > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > Microsoft MVPs > > > > > > > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > > > > > > > Real World Answers > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > > > > > "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...(a)your.nellie> wrote in > > > > > > > messagenews:%23v8bxyhWIHA.4712(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > going to advise the OP how to get around the 4GB paging file > limit > > > > > > > then? > > > > > > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> > wrote > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > messagenews:Ot$VTrhWIHA.1208(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > Right click, My Computer > Properties > Advanced > Performance > > > > > > > With 3 GB of memory > Page file should be 4.5 to 6 GB > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > Microsoft MVPs > > > > > > > Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS) > > > > > > > Real World Answers > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in > > messagenews:7049498c-c464-49f7-b9d1-da150760d1e5(a)e25g2000prg.googlegroups.co > m... > > > > > > > > 3 GB is the total, I do NOT have the 3GB switch becuase I am > also > > > > > > > running exchange or at least thats why I think so. The system > knwos > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > GB so I do not get the warning of "there is an application > taking up > > > > > > > too much memory". Page file I forgot? Where do I check that > again? > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > On Jan 16, 11:13 pm, "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" > > > > > > > <crisnospamha...(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > And how much RAM in your system and what is the size of your > page > > > > > > > file? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > MVPs Do Not Work for Microsoft > > > > > > > > Please do not contact me directly regarding issues > > > > > > > > "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <supp...(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in > > > > > > > messagenews:emS4j7KWIHA.3420(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > > From my Experience you shouldn't be getting these. > > > > > > > > > What kind of Drives are they? > > > > > > > > and how many users are on your Domain and what kind of access > are > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > doing? > > > > > > > > > Russ > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Russell Grover > > > > > > > > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > > > > > > > > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > > > > > > > > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > > > > > > > > North America Remote SBS2003 Support -http://www.SBITS.Biz > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > "rossk" <rkovel...(a)gruskingroup.com> wrote in > > messagenews:f57f7861-023e-4314-bb97-1c06071ea303(a)f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.co > m... > > > > > > > > > >I get this message once and awhile should i be concerened > > ... > > read more »
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