From: salgud on
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:24:42 -0700, Michelle Steiner wrote:

> In article <011b3d65$0$6702$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>,
> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>>> Personally, I prefer paper books to e-books, and especially since I
>>> didn't see any SF or Fantasy publishers on the list of publishers that
>>> Apple showed.
>>
>> I think this will be a big ergonomic test of tablet vs book. The IPad is
>> light enough to hold (a laptop is way too heavy). And compared to a
>> book, once you have it opened at a page, you don't need to hold the IpAd
>> open like you do for a book.
>
> I sometimes like to refer back to something earlier in the book; I'll
> remember that it was on a right page, about two thirds of the way down, so
> I'll flip the pages with my thumb, looking for the passage I'm searching
> for.
>
Watched a demo tape last night, she was doing exactly that. You can either
tap on the outer edge of the page (left edge to go back a page, right edge
to go forward), or even swipe across the page from the edge to the center,
just like sliding a book page over! Really cool.)

> Can I do that with an iPad, Kindle, Nook, or any other book reader, for
> that matter?
>
> If I have a book of short stories, I can check the table of contents to
> pick the story I want to read, and flip to the page where that story
> begins. Can I do that with an electronic book? (Probably can, but I don't
> know for sure.)
No problem, I think they all do that.
From: Blanche on
Dave Allen <kneeljung(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>> But the ipAD won't replace coffe table books with high quality images on
>> glossy paper.
>
>That's coming with Apple's planned iTable, a coffee table sized touch
>screen on which you'll be able to slide around several coffee table
>e-books at different orientations.
>--
>Dave

(*spit take*)

Antique, cherry or modern styling?
From: Blanche on
Tim McNamara <timmcn(a)bitstream.net> wrote:
> "Mr. Strat" <rag(a)nospam.techline.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <4b6138a3$0$29162$e4fe514c(a)dreader22.news.xs4all.nl>, Cat
>> <0kevi(a)accessforall.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> > Okay, there is criticism and discussion about details, but nobody
>> > actually held one in their hands. Same as with the first iPod or
>> > iPhone. What is it for? What is an MP3? Where are the buttons? Now
>> > everybody uses those devices without thinking.
>> >
>> > The iPad looks very simple (to use) and you can do (almost)
>> > anything with it. Before long everybody will use one thinking how
>> > they could live without it. Moreover, like any Apple device it will
>> > evolve, becoming thinner, longer battery life, becoming lighter,
>> > newer technologies etc.
>> >
>> > Supercool. I'm sold...can't wait to get my HANDS on one... SK.
>>
>> No doubt that it's cool...I just can't figure out how useful it would
>> be for me personally.
>
>And the cool factor isn't enough for some of us. However, if I was
>looking at an ebook reader type thing this would be top of the list-
>competitive price and better specs than the Kindle and its ilk. And if
>I can find some useful reasons I may just snag one. I'm not convinced I
>need the 3G aspect, WiFi is probable enough for my needs.
>
>What I want is something I can use to read digitized lead sheets (music)
>so that I don't have to carry hundreds of pages of charts, but the
>readable area of the screen really needs to be 8.5 x 11 or A4 sized and
>this far tablet-like has that- since they are all designed for hand-held
>text reading that's no surprise. I need to be able to read it clearly
>at 3 feet away on a music stand.

Yes! Let's add an attachment that "listens" (or just set the tempo)
and turns the page when needed...tie it to the Wii and all of a
sudden, a conductor's helper...or better yet, a training tool
for conducting majors!


From: Doc O'Leary on
In article <sehix-920E00.18083328012010(a)5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,
Steve Hix <sehix(a)NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> wrote:

> In article <1264709729.186714(a)irys.nyx.net>,
> Blanche <bcohen(a)blackhole.nyx.net> wrote:
>
> > I'm thinking that many of the active people on this list are not
> > the target market for the iPad. How many people here require a keyboard
> > at leat 60% of the time, and I don't mean just to enter in minimal text,
> > but really need the keyboard. For example, writing this note.
>
> This might be an issue for someone who didn't have anything other than
> an iPad to use.
>
> Which pretty much counts out everyone here.

It pretty much counts out everyone who will buy the device. I think it
was a bit of a misstep for Apple to place it between an iPhone and a
MacBook. It *needs* a computer to sync with, and while there may be
some who will use their laptop to do that, my hunch is that it will be
bought mainly by people with desktop systems who don't want to deal with
a full-blown laptop. My guess is that Windows desktop users will be, or
*should* be targeted as, the biggest market for the iPad.

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From: Steve Hix on
In article <slrnhm5flc.7q2.usenet(a)macbook.local>,
Elden Fenison <usenet(a)moondog.org.invalid> wrote:

> * Tim McNamara [01/29/10 00:11 UTC]:
> > And the cool factor isn't enough for some of us. However, if I was looking
> > at an ebook reader type thing this would be top of the list- competitive
> > price and better specs than the Kindle and its ilk. And if I can find some
> > useful reasons I may just snag one. I'm not convinced I need the 3G aspect,
> > WiFi is probable enough for my needs.
>
> My problem is vendor lock in. I already have a Kindle with about 40 books.
> Apparently they're staying on the Kindle. I wish for some compatibility
> between devices, but that probably won't happen.

You can't back them up to your computer?

There's a Kindle app for the iPhone; does Amazon make you pay for each
device on which you want to read a given title?

Except perhaps for the DRM, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to
read "Kindle format" ebooks on other devices.