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From: sbt on 31 Jan 2010 13:10 In article <michelle-765AD1.23135730012010(a)nothing.attdns.com>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > In article <1jd6dx2.xjoluj1xmhu4zN%jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz>, > jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote: > > > I can't imagine preferring an iPad over a laptop, and certainly not over > > my desktop. An iPad would constrain me far too much. > > It all depends on what you want to use it for. I would definitely get an > iPad instead of a laptop, but I wouldn't get rid of my iMac. Somewhat echoing what Michelle wrote, but not completely... I use my MacBook a lot, but it isn't great for watching movies in bed or on the patio because a laptop gets warm on the lap. I prefer portrait layout for reading books, newspapers, and the like (maybe that's ingrained cultural behavior from what I'm accustomed to, but at my age that isn't going to change). On the other hand, the iPad doesn't appear to be that great for composing prose (letters, papers, notes) nor does there appear to be a convenient way to get physical printout from it, but I can use my MacBook for that. In short, my take is that the iPad does _some_ of the things I want in a portable device much better than a conventional laptop, but it isn't a replacement, merely a desirable augmentation. -- Spenser
From: Doc O'Leary on 31 Jan 2010 13:26 In article <sehix-018B7D.14545630012010(a)5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Steve Hix <sehix(a)NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> wrote: > Unless things have change significantly between the iPad and the > iPhone/Touch, having a computer already is *hugely* more convenient and > flexible, but you can very well use the device without access to any > other computer. As long as you don't intend to update the OS or firmware. Or backup anything important. Or transfer music from a CD you already own. Or pull a file off a thumb drive. Or any number of things a computer user these days would take for granted. I might even grant you that it's possible to *rarely* connect to a computer. But why is it so difficult to admit you're probably going to need a computer for an iPad? > You can certainly buy apps/music/movies/other content through a WiFi > connection, and you can keep calendar, contacts, and browser bookmarks > synced through MobileMe. > > It's less convenient, but it works. You honestly have no idea what is and isn't going to work until you've used an iPad for some length of time. I'll go even further with my hunch and say that not only does Apple expect you to have a computer to use an iPad, early adopters are probably going to have at least *two* computers that they're going to sync it with. -- My personal UDP list: 127.0.0.1, localhost, googlegroups.com, ono.com, and probably your server, too.
From: Doc O'Leary on 31 Jan 2010 13:57 In article <sehix-008864.15015630012010(a)5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Steve Hix <sehix(a)NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> wrote: > In article <droleary.usenet-B27E72.12391230012010(a)news.twtelecom.net>, > Doc O'Leary <droleary.usenet(a)1q2010.subsume.com> wrote: > > > > > But you haven't made a real case for people carrying around a laptop to > > also carry around an iPad. > > Who said anything about "also"? I did. Just look up a bit at the part of my post that you quoted. See it there? No, there . . . I'm pointing right at it! > My main machine is a laptop, but I don't > invariably carry it with me when I travel, the Touch may get hauled > along. For that matter, even when I do have the laptop with me, the > Touch usually comes along, too, for reading books in the evening, if > nothing else. You're making my case for me, even if you don't see it. Most people don't *use* laptops as mobile computers. They use them because they are easiest to lug around from place to place. You're sitting at somewhere with it, and then you pack it up and carry it until you're sitting somewhere else, rinse and repeat. The fact is that once you have something that *does* function as a mobile computer, a laptop becomes dead weight. For the longest time I've been *hoping* that the iPod would actually *become* what it was named: not just a music player but a "pod" for my digital life. It has slowly been moving in that direction. The iPad is the latest incarnation towards that, but only time will tell if people need the bigger screen more than they'd like other feature from something smaller like an iPod touch. Either way, these are devices that make the utility of a laptop increasingly more questionable. *That* is why I don't expect a lot of laptop owners to be iPad owners. Unless, of course, they're looking to eventually replace the laptops with the iPad. Once they stop lugging around the laptop, doesn't it just become a small desktop computer? > > Of *course* Apple is aware of the migration > > to mobile computing, but I think they are also keenly aware of the > > trade-offs faced when you try to pack a desktop into a laptop. > > They're also aware that a lot of laptops, particularly larger-display > models, in practice never go anywhere; they get used as a desktop device > with fewer cables snaking around the desk. You support my point. > > I think > > they're also keenly aware that there is a huge opportunity to tap the > > Windows desktop market, including businesses, with an "accessory" mobile > > device like the iPad. > > Ya think? That might be why they listed both Mac and Windows > requirements for syncing the iPad. > > By crackee, smart fellers there at Apple. Woosh! I don't just mean to sync, chum. I mean to replace full Windows desktops with an iPad in in corporate environments where you don't want or need a general purpose computer. I've worked in many places where you could easily save millions by doing that, tablet or not. -- My personal UDP list: 127.0.0.1, localhost, googlegroups.com, ono.com, and probably your server, too.
From: Wes Groleau on 31 Jan 2010 17:00 Fred Moore wrote: > Yeh, I think Apple has a real winner here. (See David Pogue's comments > about the naysayers which I posted elsewhere in this group.) I could not find that post. -- Wes Groleau Elevated pronunciation http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/barrett?itemid=994
From: Wes Groleau on 31 Jan 2010 17:03
John McWilliams wrote: > convenient.... Even moreso Amazon. It's frighteningly easy to order > stuff online from them. I'll say! Ordered a textbook from aLibris. Day or two later, an e-mail from Amazon thanked me for ordering something else. (Presumably fraud, as the actual item wanted was also acknowledged by aLibris.) -- Wes Groleau ¡Qué quiero realmente hacer es comer un perrito caliente! 私が実際にしたいと思う何をホットドッグを食べることである! http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/WWW?itemid=463 |