From: Peter Ceresole on
Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote:

> > like for intance people who have AGAs but also need a real cooker to do
> > anything useful.
>
> What a bizarre comment. Have you lived with an Aga? They're frikkin'
> brilliant, but a completely different mindset. The polar opposite of the
> microwave.

No, but plenty of my friends have. The ones that are good cooks have all
bought proper cookers as well- they had to.
--
Peter
From: Jochem Huhmann on
peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) writes:

> Geoff Berrow <blthecat(a)ckdog.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> >Apple keyboards are cheap, so that wouldn't be a problem.
>>
>> But will the ipad dock be cheap?
>
> Would it connect with a wireless keyboard?

Yes.


Jochem

--
"A designer knows he has arrived at perfection not when there is no
longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
From: Jochem Huhmann on
peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) writes:

> Jochem Huhmann <joh(a)gmx.net> wrote:
>
>> But to *really* support solo use it would also need some way for doing
>> backups without a computer and this requires more than just some
>> software changes in the OS.
>
> But people will be using it who really don't want the full panoply of a
> computer.
>
> Backups of vital stuff should be easy; you can get low cost 4GB thumb
> drives- just copying text and mail folders should do it. However,
> looking rapidly at the specs there doesn't seem to be any way to connect
> a USB device to it, even with a dock. The iPad seems horribly, horribly
> limited.

So you *really* think people who don't want the full panoply of a
computer would want to do a (partial) backup by copying some files and
folders to an USB-stick and to restore from that? Why do you think the
iPhone does a full and automatic backup when you connect it to your
computer and allows a one-button restore?

> So maybe I'm missing something, or Apple really have screwed up.

I don't think so. Sooner or later they will have some way to do all
things you now need iTunes for via the cloud instead (Mobile Me
probably) and as long as this isn't ready you'll need a computer with
iTunes. Supporting everything hackish in between would mean they'd have
screwed up.

Apple is finishing a new $1 billion data center right now:

http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2010/02/22/first-look-apples-massive-idatacenter/

What do you think this monster is for?

Jochem

--
"A designer knows he has arrived at perfection not when there is no
longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
From: Andrew Templeman on
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Jochem Huhmann <joh(a)gmx.net> wrote:
>
> > But to *really* support solo use it would also need some way for doing
> > backups without a computer and this requires more than just some
> > software changes in the OS.
>
> But people will be using it who really don't want the full panoply of a
> computer.
>
> Backups of vital stuff should be easy; you can get low cost 4GB thumb
> drives- just copying text and mail folders should do it. However,
> looking rapidly at the specs there doesn't seem to be any way to connect
> a USB device to it, even with a dock. The iPad seems horribly, horribly
> limited.
>
> So maybe I'm missing something, or Apple really have screwed up.

You know when people said that it's like a big ipod touch? They were
very nearly right. It has a few more things, like you can get 3G data
card included, and attach a keyboard, and has Apps and UI better tuned
for the bigger screen. But basically it is a big ipod and needs a
computer for the syncing with itunes.

It doesn't have Finder (or a user visible file system) so you can't just
copy your mail folders and so on to anywhere. It's all done by syncing
with iTunes.

--
Andy Templeman <http://www.templeman.org.uk/>
From: Andrew Templeman on
Graeme <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <1jg7rhe.yazdi91jdy3xtN%peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk>
> peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:
>
> > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Unfortunately it is hard to answer that one at the moment as the iPad
> > > isn't out. There is a risk that you won't be able to update it without
> > > plugging it in, but until someone actually has one, there isn't a way to
> > > say for sure, everything is just speculation
> >
> > Okay, thanks Woody. I was wondering about updates if she didn't have
> > another machine, but I presume that Apple will have sorted that out, as
> > the iPad is much more of a 'computer' than an iPhone, and people are
> > much more likely to have it as their sole device.
>
> The description claims it needs a computer running a minimum of Snow Leopard!
> Rules it out for me as I have a PPC :-(

says 10.5.8 on http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/

--
Andy Templeman <http://www.templeman.org.uk/>
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