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From: Rowland McDonnell on 3 Nov 2009 19:56 smurf <smurf(a)msn.com> wrote: > the_niner_nation wrote: > > ok windows convert for the time it takes for apple to start shipping > > it's quadcore mac..and wondering whats a good newsreader for the mac? > > > > in windows, windows mail/outlook express were more than adequate for > > my needs, and looking for something similar to run on a mac. i dont > > have any need whatsoever for binary NG's, just text ones like these... > > > > so sorry if this has been asked before, but thanks in advance to all.. > > I give up and now remote desktop into my xp machine and read newsgroups from > there. I dont even like windows mail newsgroups, yuk, has to be outlook > express with oe-quotefix. Did none of the Mac newsreaders suggested seem at all suitable, then? Or were you simply put off by all the bickering? These are the Mac GUI newsreaders that my mind tells me I've heard of and are worth looking at: <http://www.asar.com/hogwasher.html> <http://home.snafu.de/stk/macsoup/> <http://home.earthlink.net/~thoth-help/thoth.html> <http://www.panic.com/unison/index.html> Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Simon Dobbs on 4 Nov 2009 02:40 On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 00:56:33 +0000, Rowland McDonnell wrote (in article <1j8msbc.pp838gcfdlbmN%real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid>): > Simon Dobbs <simondobbs(a)froglet.net> wrote: > >> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:50:29 +0000, Rowland McDonnell wrote >> (in article >> <1j8jubw.bojjoh1nrrhkrN%real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid>): >> >>> Simon Dobbs <simondobbs(a)froglet.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Rowland McDonnell wrote: >>>> >>>>> Most Mac-like means that there's not anything to recommend it - it's >>>>> like claiming that something's `old' and must be replaced with the `new' >>>>> stuff because `new' is always better, sortathing, changing the issue >>>>> under discussion away from `useful functional issues' to `pointless >>>>> bickering about meaningless bollocks'. >>>> >>>> no it doesn't >>> >>> QED. >>> >>> Rowland. >>> >>> >> >> Ok- I happen to like hogwasher, you happen to prefer macsoup. I guess that >> we >> have both tried both (or else we wouldn't be able to be so assertive in our >> opinions), and having done so still maintain the same position. > > You what? I've explained what's wrong with your *reasons*. You want to > like Hogwasher, you go ahead and like Hogwasher. Lots of people do like > Hogwasher, nothing wrong with that; what's wrong is claiming that it's > preferable because it's `most Mac-like', which is just bollocks as far > as I'm concerned. > >> I wonder why >> your opinion is so much better than mine? > > <puzzled> I didn't come out with any bollocks like `<identifier> is the > most Mac-like'. > > And responding to a full paragraph of stuff with `no it doesn't' as you > did does seem to me to back up my idea that the next step after > `<identifier> is the most Mac-like' moves us to bickering about > meaningless bollocks. > > After all, `no it doesn't' isn't any sort of decent debating point which > one can discuss, is it? > > Rowland. > > I didn't give any 'reasons' - just suggested the poster tried hogwasher, realising that they would come to their own judgement. Your reasons for liking macsoup are completely different to my reasons for my liking hw, but this does not have to cause you to become incandescent with rage, and accuse me of talking meaningless bollocks- i offered a single brief suggestion, I did not enter into a debating competition. I think you get off from escalating all usenet chatter into a big fist fight. I can't be bothered , so don't bother replying.
From: Andy Hewitt on 4 Nov 2009 12:34 Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote: > > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: [..] > > > Ditto. But: I found MacSoup to be an acquired taste. I didn't like it > > > for several weeks but now it'd be hard to persuade me to give it up. > > > > Indeed, much the same here. In fact IIRC it was yourself that convinced > > me to keep trying, and I did get it in the end. It's by no means > > perfect, but I can't find any other news reader that's any better either > > (at least not one with such a neat way to view threads). > > It's the graphical thread display and the off-line-ness which I like the > most. Quite a lot of the MacSoup UI is a bit odd and I can think of > modifications I'd find useful, but like you I can't find anything > better. > > I've tried a few on-line newsreaders and I really can't see the > attraction. Well, aside from browsing for pictures - but I've only ever > done that in a spirit of investigation (honest, yer honour). <grin> Yes, I don't know what it is, but online reading hasn't appealed to me much either. Of course, if you did have a legitimate reason to download a binary, it isn't too much of a hardship to run somethign else, such as MT Newswatcher, just for the occasional task. -- Andy Hewitt <http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>
From: Rowland McDonnell on 4 Nov 2009 17:59 Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote: > > > > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > [..] > > > > Ditto. But: I found MacSoup to be an acquired taste. I didn't like it > > > > for several weeks but now it'd be hard to persuade me to give it up. > > > > > > Indeed, much the same here. In fact IIRC it was yourself that convinced > > > me to keep trying, and I did get it in the end. It's by no means > > > perfect, but I can't find any other news reader that's any better either > > > (at least not one with such a neat way to view threads). > > > > It's the graphical thread display and the off-line-ness which I like the > > most. Quite a lot of the MacSoup UI is a bit odd and I can think of > > modifications I'd find useful, but like you I can't find anything > > better. > > > > I've tried a few on-line newsreaders and I really can't see the > > attraction. Well, aside from browsing for pictures - but I've only ever > > done that in a spirit of investigation (honest, yer honour). > > <grin> > > Yes, I don't know what it is, but online reading hasn't appealed to me > much either. > > Of course, if you did have a legitimate reason to download a binary, it > isn't too much of a hardship to run somethign else, such as MT > Newswatcher, just for the occasional task. MacSoup does perfectly well for binary downloading - it just can't decode anything. Nothing wrong with using an external decoder. Thing is, one has to search quite hard on Usenet and in your own mind to find a binary for which one might be able to concoct a legitimate reason to download. Sociological or forensic research? That'd do... Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Andy Hewitt on 4 Nov 2009 18:12
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote: > > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: [..] > > Of course, if you did have a legitimate reason to download a binary, it > > isn't too much of a hardship to run somethign else, such as MT > > Newswatcher, just for the occasional task. > > MacSoup does perfectly well for binary downloading - it just can't > decode anything. Nothing wrong with using an external decoder. For sure. > Thing is, one has to search quite hard on Usenet and in your own mind to > find a binary for which one might be able to concoct a legitimate reason > to download. > > Sociological or forensic research? That'd do... I'm sure there are a number of reasons, although such has caused a few arguments in this group. -- Andy Hewitt <http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/> |