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From: Kerry Brown on 18 Mar 2008 01:32 USB is much easier. You also have the advantage of rotating multiple drives with some stored off site. That would be a real headache with NAS devices. I too have given up on NAS for backups. -- Kerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <support(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message news:eHon3gKiIHA.1164(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >I have, but I don't like NAS units anymore... > After experiencing issues with the "READYNAS and a "Linksys" one I've > given up on them completely :) > > Russ > > -- > > SBITS.Biz > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > North America Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz > Information on Small Business Server 2008 - http://www.sbs2008.com > Information on Essentials Business Server - http://www.ebs2008.com > > > > - > > "Kerry Brown" <kerry(a)kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message > news:A812603A-34DA-4197-93C3-D7C1C515E529(a)microsoft.com... >> I've never been able to get the SBS backup to work with a Samba Server >> unless the Samba Server supports AD. The device in question doesn't >> support AD so it's unlikely it will ever work. You can get NTBackup to >> work if you are logged on and have a drive mapped to a share on the Samba >> Server. >> >> Very few low end NAS devices support AD. The cheapest I know of is this >> one. >> >> http://www.qnap.com/pro_detail_feature.asp?p_id=79 >> >> Which is around $350.00 without a drive. The lowest cost LaCie NAS that >> supports AD is around $750.00. >> >> -- >> Kerry Brown >> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration >> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ >> >> >> >> "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <support(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message >> news:eKq2$YFiIHA.4744(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> Actually some NAS do have AD Support, >>> >>> and XFS is just the Linux File system >>> And that's not the issue . >>> >>> It's more like Permissions. >>> Like you are not logged into the NAS before the backup starts >>> You will either have to link the NAS with AD >>> *Unknown if it can do this >>> >>> Or Make sure path is accessible with permissions during backup >>> >>> Russ >>> >>> -- >>> >>> SBITS.Biz >>> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner >>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. >>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) >>> North America Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz >>> Information on Small Business Server 2008 - http://www.sbs2008.com >>> Information on Essentials Business Server - http://www.ebs2008.com >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> >>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry(a)kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message >>> news:CF75312A-4588-4D7B-84C1-A89B090BEF07(a)microsoft.com... >>>> It's a common problem with low cost networked drives (I hesitate to >>>> call them a NAS device). They use embedded Linux with Samba Server for >>>> file sharing. Active Directory is not supported. They are really >>>> designed for home or SOHO use. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Kerry Brown >>>> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration >>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Henrik (Hear)" <hear01(a)remove-this-hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:enKYn5DiIHA.2084(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> Ritch, >>>>> >>>>> According to several documents Ive read, Kerry might be right. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From the manual: >>>>> >>>>> For Windows users: >>>>> To access the LaCie Ethernet Disk mini or Ethernet Big Disk using >>>>> Microsoft Windows, look in My Network Places. By default, the LaCie >>>>> Ethernet Disk mini will be named "EDmini" under Workgroup. When you >>>>> attempt to access a share, you will be asked to enter a username and a >>>>> password. >>>>> >>>>> The drive Is installed on the network as a network connected unit with >>>>> Its own user access. Its not a domain connected unit and doesnt have >>>>> the user account that NTBackup Is using. Its using its wn built in >>>>> credentials. >>>>> >>>>> Note. >>>>> When reading several manualls, they state that SBS2003 and Windows >>>>> Server 2003 are not supported systems. >>>>> >>>>> A suggestion: >>>>> >>>>> In the manualls there Is an options that gives you possibility to mapp >>>>> the drive to a letter In Explorer. If this is done on your SBS (though >>>>> its not a supported OS), try to backup that drive thru the letter, not >>>>> by using UNC path. >>>>> >>>>> Coorect me If im wrong here, but i think the credentials used when >>>>> mapping the drive gives the NTBackup account possibility to write to >>>>> the drive when mapped. If Im wrong i hope someone can correct me. >>>>> >>>>> Also note that, the mapped drive Is only mapped when logged on to the >>>>> machine, the connected drive disconnects by default when logging out. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Henrik Arenblad, MCP SBS, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Henrik (Hear)" <hear01(a)remove-this-hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:uadEPzDiIHA.4468(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Ritch, >>>>>> Whats the modell nr of your drive? >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Henrik Arenblad, MCP SBS, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry(a)kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message >>>>>> news:7AE54A0C-C3E8-40C0-8582-F3A3334B1971(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>>> I'm guessing it's a permissions problem. The SBS backup runs as the >>>>>>> System account which may not have permissions on the NAS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Kerry Brown >>>>>>> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration >>>>>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Ritch_DA" <RitchDA(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:0FA9A176-56A2-46DD-AA43-5972C27C07B4(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>>>> Hi there >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have just installed a 500GB LaCie ETHERNET DISK MINI GIGABIT NAS >>>>>>>> on one of >>>>>>>> our networks. Everything is working fine, can access the drive >>>>>>>> through the >>>>>>>> network, save files etc. I have gone to configure SBS backup wizard >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> schedule a full backup to the disk every x days, tried to run a >>>>>>>> test backup >>>>>>>> and it fails with the following error message: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Backup Runner started. Launching NTBackup: ntbackup.exe backup >>>>>>>> "@C:\Program >>>>>>>> Files\Microsoft Windows Small Business Server\Backup\Small Business >>>>>>>> Backup >>>>>>>> Script.bks" /d "SBS Backup created on 14/03/2008 at 09:29" /v:yes >>>>>>>> /r:no >>>>>>>> /rs:no /hc:off /m normal /j "Small Business Server Backup Job" /l:s >>>>>>>> /f >>>>>>>> "\\Bte_nas\test\Backup Files\Small Business Server Backup (05).bkf" >>>>>>>> /UM >>>>>>>> NTBACKUP LOG FILE: C:\Documents and Settings\SBS Backup User\Local >>>>>>>> Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows >>>>>>>> NT\NTBackup\data\backup07.log >>>>>>>> =====================<BEGIN NTBACKUP LOG FILE>===================== >>>>>>>> Backup >>>>>>>> Status The operation was not performed because the specified media >>>>>>>> cannot be >>>>>>>> found. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have already emailed Lacie about this but so far had no reply. >>>>>>>> can anyone advise on how to get this working ASAP? I have had no >>>>>>>> experience >>>>>>>> of XFS file systems and I think permissions is probably the issue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Many thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ritch >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
From: Ritch_DA on 18 Mar 2008 04:16 What a nightmare. Wish I had spoken to you guys before buying the drives, bought 3 as they were a bargain! I think there is a lesson to be learnt here somewhere... you get what you pay for or something along those lines :D What happens if I attach the drive via USB, then reformat it with NTFS and assign the correct permissions? Or wont it let me do that? Might be worth a try. Thanks for all your help anyway guys. I will post back if I ever get the thing working. "Kerry Brown" wrote: > USB is much easier. > > You also have the advantage of rotating multiple drives with some stored off > site. That would be a real headache with NAS devices. I too have given up on > NAS for backups. > > -- > Kerry Brown > MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration > http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ > > > > "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <support(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message > news:eHon3gKiIHA.1164(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >I have, but I don't like NAS units anymore... > > After experiencing issues with the "READYNAS and a "Linksys" one I've > > given up on them completely :) > > > > Russ > > > > -- > > > > SBITS.Biz > > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > > North America Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz > > Information on Small Business Server 2008 - http://www.sbs2008.com > > Information on Essentials Business Server - http://www.ebs2008.com > > > > > > > > - > > > > "Kerry Brown" <kerry(a)kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message > > news:A812603A-34DA-4197-93C3-D7C1C515E529(a)microsoft.com... > >> I've never been able to get the SBS backup to work with a Samba Server > >> unless the Samba Server supports AD. The device in question doesn't > >> support AD so it's unlikely it will ever work. You can get NTBackup to > >> work if you are logged on and have a drive mapped to a share on the Samba > >> Server. > >> > >> Very few low end NAS devices support AD. The cheapest I know of is this > >> one. > >> > >> http://www.qnap.com/pro_detail_feature.asp?p_id=79 > >> > >> Which is around $350.00 without a drive. The lowest cost LaCie NAS that > >> supports AD is around $750.00. > >> > >> -- > >> Kerry Brown > >> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration > >> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ > >> > >> > >> > >> "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <support(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message > >> news:eKq2$YFiIHA.4744(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >>> Actually some NAS do have AD Support, > >>> > >>> and XFS is just the Linux File system > >>> And that's not the issue . > >>> > >>> It's more like Permissions. > >>> Like you are not logged into the NAS before the backup starts > >>> You will either have to link the NAS with AD > >>> *Unknown if it can do this > >>> > >>> Or Make sure path is accessible with permissions during backup > >>> > >>> Russ > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> SBITS.Biz > >>> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > >>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > >>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > >>> North America Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz > >>> Information on Small Business Server 2008 - http://www.sbs2008.com > >>> Information on Essentials Business Server - http://www.ebs2008.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> - > >>> > >>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry(a)kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message > >>> news:CF75312A-4588-4D7B-84C1-A89B090BEF07(a)microsoft.com... > >>>> It's a common problem with low cost networked drives (I hesitate to > >>>> call them a NAS device). They use embedded Linux with Samba Server for > >>>> file sharing. Active Directory is not supported. They are really > >>>> designed for home or SOHO use. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Kerry Brown > >>>> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration > >>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> "Henrik (Hear)" <hear01(a)remove-this-hotmail.com> wrote in message > >>>> news:enKYn5DiIHA.2084(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >>>>> Ritch, > >>>>> > >>>>> According to several documents Ive read, Kerry might be right. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> From the manual: > >>>>> > >>>>> For Windows users: > >>>>> To access the LaCie Ethernet Disk mini or Ethernet Big Disk using > >>>>> Microsoft Windows, look in My Network Places. By default, the LaCie > >>>>> Ethernet Disk mini will be named "EDmini" under Workgroup. When you > >>>>> attempt to access a share, you will be asked to enter a username and a > >>>>> password. > >>>>> > >>>>> The drive Is installed on the network as a network connected unit with > >>>>> Its own user access. Its not a domain connected unit and doesnt have > >>>>> the user account that NTBackup Is using. Its using its wn built in > >>>>> credentials. > >>>>> > >>>>> Note. > >>>>> When reading several manualls, they state that SBS2003 and Windows > >>>>> Server 2003 are not supported systems. > >>>>> > >>>>> A suggestion: > >>>>> > >>>>> In the manualls there Is an options that gives you possibility to mapp > >>>>> the drive to a letter In Explorer. If this is done on your SBS (though > >>>>> its not a supported OS), try to backup that drive thru the letter, not > >>>>> by using UNC path. > >>>>> > >>>>> Coorect me If im wrong here, but i think the credentials used when > >>>>> mapping the drive gives the NTBackup account possibility to write to > >>>>> the drive when mapped. If Im wrong i hope someone can correct me. > >>>>> > >>>>> Also note that, the mapped drive Is only mapped when logged on to the > >>>>> machine, the connected drive disconnects by default when logging out. > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Henrik Arenblad, MCP SBS, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> "Henrik (Hear)" <hear01(a)remove-this-hotmail.com> wrote in message > >>>>> news:uadEPzDiIHA.4468(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >>>>>> Ritch, > >>>>>> Whats the modell nr of your drive? > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Henrik Arenblad, MCP SBS, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry(a)kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message > >>>>>> news:7AE54A0C-C3E8-40C0-8582-F3A3334B1971(a)microsoft.com... > >>>>>>> I'm guessing it's a permissions problem. The SBS backup runs as the > >>>>>>> System account which may not have permissions on the NAS. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Kerry Brown > >>>>>>> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration > >>>>>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "Ritch_DA" <RitchDA(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>> news:0FA9A176-56A2-46DD-AA43-5972C27C07B4(a)microsoft.com... > >>>>>>>> Hi there > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have just installed a 500GB LaCie ETHERNET DISK MINI GIGABIT NAS > >>>>>>>> on one of > >>>>>>>> our networks. Everything is working fine, can access the drive > >>>>>>>> through the > >>>>>>>> network, save files etc. I have gone to configure SBS backup wizard > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> schedule a full backup to the disk every x days, tried to run a > >>>>>>>> test backup > >>>>>>>> and it fails with the following error message: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Backup Runner started. Launching NTBackup: ntbackup.exe backup > >>>>>>>> "@C:\Program > >>>>>>>> Files\Microsoft Windows Small Business Server\Backup\Small Business > >>>>>>>> Backup > >>>>>>>> Script.bks" /d "SBS Backup created on 14/03/2008 at 09:29" /v:yes > >>>>>>>> /r:no > >>>>>>>> /rs:no /hc:off /m normal /j "Small Business Server Backup Job" /l:s > >>>>>>>> /f > >>>>>>>> "\\Bte_nas\test\Backup Files\Small Business Server Backup (05).bkf" > >>>>>>>> /UM > >>>>>>>> NTBACKUP LOG FILE: C:\Documents and Settings\SBS Backup User\Local > >>>>>>>> Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows > >>>>>>>> NT\NTBackup\data\backup07.log > >>>>>>>> =====================<BEGIN NTBACKUP LOG FILE>===================== > >>>>>>>> Backup > >>>>>>>> Status The operation was not performed because the specified media > >>>>>>>> cannot be > >>>>>>>> found. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have already emailed Lacie about this but so far had no reply. > >>>>>>>> can anyone advise on how to get this working ASAP? I have had no > >>>>>>>> experience > >>>>>>>> of XFS file systems and I think permissions is probably the issue. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Many thanks > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Ritch > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > >
From: Henrik (Hear) on 18 Mar 2008 04:41 Hi, dont see it as supported. It doesnt say that Windows 2003 Server family products are supported. Okej, they doesnt say they arent either but what the lost say is the system that are, and the server 2003 family isnt on that list. Check with the supplyer if you can return them? Sell them on Ebay? ;-) -- Henrik Arenblad, MCP SBS, "Ritch_DA" <RitchDA(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D4246AB5-A425-4631-AD3D-6459F877CEAE(a)microsoft.com... > What a nightmare. > > Wish I had spoken to you guys before buying the drives, bought 3 as they > were a bargain! I think there is a lesson to be learnt here somewhere... > you > get what you pay for or something along those lines :D > > What happens if I attach the drive via USB, then reformat it with NTFS and > assign the correct permissions? Or wont it let me do that? Might be worth > a > try. > > Thanks for all your help anyway guys. I will post back if I ever get the > thing working. > > > > "Kerry Brown" wrote: > >> USB is much easier. >> >> You also have the advantage of rotating multiple drives with some stored >> off >> site. That would be a real headache with NAS devices. I too have given up >> on >> NAS for backups. >> >> -- >> Kerry Brown >> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration >> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ >> >> >> >> "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <support(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message >> news:eHon3gKiIHA.1164(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >I have, but I don't like NAS units anymore... >> > After experiencing issues with the "READYNAS and a "Linksys" one I've >> > given up on them completely :) >> > >> > Russ >> > >> > -- >> > >> > SBITS.Biz >> > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner >> > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. >> > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) >> > North America Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz >> > Information on Small Business Server 2008 - http://www.sbs2008.com >> > Information on Essentials Business Server - http://www.ebs2008.com >> > >> > >> > >> > - >> > >> > "Kerry Brown" <kerry(a)kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message >> > news:A812603A-34DA-4197-93C3-D7C1C515E529(a)microsoft.com... >> >> I've never been able to get the SBS backup to work with a Samba Server >> >> unless the Samba Server supports AD. The device in question doesn't >> >> support AD so it's unlikely it will ever work. You can get NTBackup to >> >> work if you are logged on and have a drive mapped to a share on the >> >> Samba >> >> Server. >> >> >> >> Very few low end NAS devices support AD. The cheapest I know of is >> >> this >> >> one. >> >> >> >> http://www.qnap.com/pro_detail_feature.asp?p_id=79 >> >> >> >> Which is around $350.00 without a drive. The lowest cost LaCie NAS >> >> that >> >> supports AD is around $750.00. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Kerry Brown >> >> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration >> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <support(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message >> >> news:eKq2$YFiIHA.4744(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >>> Actually some NAS do have AD Support, >> >>> >> >>> and XFS is just the Linux File system >> >>> And that's not the issue . >> >>> >> >>> It's more like Permissions. >> >>> Like you are not logged into the NAS before the backup starts >> >>> You will either have to link the NAS with AD >> >>> *Unknown if it can do this >> >>> >> >>> Or Make sure path is accessible with permissions during backup >> >>> >> >>> Russ >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> >> >>> SBITS.Biz >> >>> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner >> >>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. >> >>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) >> >>> North America Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz >> >>> Information on Small Business Server 2008 - http://www.sbs2008.com >> >>> Information on Essentials Business Server - http://www.ebs2008.com >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> - >> >>> >> >>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry(a)kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message >> >>> news:CF75312A-4588-4D7B-84C1-A89B090BEF07(a)microsoft.com... >> >>>> It's a common problem with low cost networked drives (I hesitate to >> >>>> call them a NAS device). They use embedded Linux with Samba Server >> >>>> for >> >>>> file sharing. Active Directory is not supported. They are really >> >>>> designed for home or SOHO use. >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Kerry Brown >> >>>> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration >> >>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> "Henrik (Hear)" <hear01(a)remove-this-hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >>>> news:enKYn5DiIHA.2084(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >>>>> Ritch, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> According to several documents Ive read, Kerry might be right. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> From the manual: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> For Windows users: >> >>>>> To access the LaCie Ethernet Disk mini or Ethernet Big Disk using >> >>>>> Microsoft Windows, look in My Network Places. By default, the LaCie >> >>>>> Ethernet Disk mini will be named "EDmini" under Workgroup. When you >> >>>>> attempt to access a share, you will be asked to enter a username >> >>>>> and a >> >>>>> password. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The drive Is installed on the network as a network connected unit >> >>>>> with >> >>>>> Its own user access. Its not a domain connected unit and doesnt >> >>>>> have >> >>>>> the user account that NTBackup Is using. Its using its wn built in >> >>>>> credentials. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Note. >> >>>>> When reading several manualls, they state that SBS2003 and Windows >> >>>>> Server 2003 are not supported systems. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> A suggestion: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> In the manualls there Is an options that gives you possibility to >> >>>>> mapp >> >>>>> the drive to a letter In Explorer. If this is done on your SBS >> >>>>> (though >> >>>>> its not a supported OS), try to backup that drive thru the letter, >> >>>>> not >> >>>>> by using UNC path. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Coorect me If im wrong here, but i think the credentials used when >> >>>>> mapping the drive gives the NTBackup account possibility to write >> >>>>> to >> >>>>> the drive when mapped. If Im wrong i hope someone can correct me. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Also note that, the mapped drive Is only mapped when logged on to >> >>>>> the >> >>>>> machine, the connected drive disconnects by default when logging >> >>>>> out. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> Henrik Arenblad, MCP SBS, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> "Henrik (Hear)" <hear01(a)remove-this-hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >>>>> news:uadEPzDiIHA.4468(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >>>>>> Ritch, >> >>>>>> Whats the modell nr of your drive? >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> Henrik Arenblad, MCP SBS, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry(a)kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message >> >>>>>> news:7AE54A0C-C3E8-40C0-8582-F3A3334B1971(a)microsoft.com... >> >>>>>>> I'm guessing it's a permissions problem. The SBS backup runs as >> >>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>> System account which may not have permissions on the NAS. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>> Kerry Brown >> >>>>>>> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration >> >>>>>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> "Ritch_DA" <RitchDA(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >>>>>>> news:0FA9A176-56A2-46DD-AA43-5972C27C07B4(a)microsoft.com... >> >>>>>>>> Hi there >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I have just installed a 500GB LaCie ETHERNET DISK MINI GIGABIT >> >>>>>>>> NAS >> >>>>>>>> on one of >> >>>>>>>> our networks. Everything is working fine, can access the drive >> >>>>>>>> through the >> >>>>>>>> network, save files etc. I have gone to configure SBS backup >> >>>>>>>> wizard >> >>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>> schedule a full backup to the disk every x days, tried to run a >> >>>>>>>> test backup >> >>>>>>>> and it fails with the following error message: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Backup Runner started. Launching NTBackup: ntbackup.exe backup >> >>>>>>>> "@C:\Program >> >>>>>>>> Files\Microsoft Windows Small Business Server\Backup\Small >> >>>>>>>> Business >> >>>>>>>> Backup >> >>>>>>>> Script.bks" /d "SBS Backup created on 14/03/2008 at 09:29" >> >>>>>>>> /v:yes >> >>>>>>>> /r:no >> >>>>>>>> /rs:no /hc:off /m normal /j "Small Business Server Backup Job" >> >>>>>>>> /l:s >> >>>>>>>> /f >> >>>>>>>> "\\Bte_nas\test\Backup Files\Small Business Server Backup >> >>>>>>>> (05).bkf" >> >>>>>>>> /UM >> >>>>>>>> NTBACKUP LOG FILE: C:\Documents and Settings\SBS Backup >> >>>>>>>> User\Local >> >>>>>>>> Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows >> >>>>>>>> NT\NTBackup\data\backup07.log >> >>>>>>>> =====================<BEGIN NTBACKUP LOG >> >>>>>>>> FILE>===================== >> >>>>>>>> Backup >> >>>>>>>> Status The operation was not performed because the specified >> >>>>>>>> media >> >>>>>>>> cannot be >> >>>>>>>> found. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I have already emailed Lacie about this but so far had no reply. >> >>>>>>>> can anyone advise on how to get this working ASAP? I have had no >> >>>>>>>> experience >> >>>>>>>> of XFS file systems and I think permissions is probably the >> >>>>>>>> issue. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Many thanks >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Ritch >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > >>
From: Ritch_DA on 18 Mar 2008 05:15 Hi Henrik I have just organised to have the drives returned, got slightly stung with a charge but that's my own fault. Thing is with regards to the supported OS issue, I have a 500GB Mybook USB which just sais XP compatible just like the Lacie and that works fine with SBS2003, in fact looking through the list of drives from my supplier none of them so far state compatibility with 2003. Can someone recommend a 500GB USB drive which they know works with ntbackup / sbs2003? We are on a tight budget so anything around £100 would be ideal. I am tempted to just stick with the Mybook drives as I know they work and have never let me down. Any suggestions would be great, thanks. "Henrik (Hear)" wrote: > Hi, dont see it as supported. It doesnt say that Windows 2003 Server family > products are supported. > Okej, they doesnt say they arent either but what the lost say is the system > that are, and the server 2003 family isnt on that list. > > Check with the supplyer if you can return them? Sell them on Ebay? ;-) > > -- > Henrik Arenblad, MCP SBS, > > > "Ritch_DA" <RitchDA(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:D4246AB5-A425-4631-AD3D-6459F877CEAE(a)microsoft.com... > > What a nightmare. > > > > Wish I had spoken to you guys before buying the drives, bought 3 as they > > were a bargain! I think there is a lesson to be learnt here somewhere... > > you > > get what you pay for or something along those lines :D > > > > What happens if I attach the drive via USB, then reformat it with NTFS and > > assign the correct permissions? Or wont it let me do that? Might be worth > > a > > try. > > > > Thanks for all your help anyway guys. I will post back if I ever get the > > thing working. > > > > > > > > "Kerry Brown" wrote: > > > >> USB is much easier. > >> > >> You also have the advantage of rotating multiple drives with some stored > >> off > >> site. That would be a real headache with NAS devices. I too have given up > >> on > >> NAS for backups. > >> > >> -- > >> Kerry Brown > >> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration > >> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ > >> > >> > >> > >> "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <support(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message > >> news:eHon3gKiIHA.1164(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> >I have, but I don't like NAS units anymore... > >> > After experiencing issues with the "READYNAS and a "Linksys" one I've > >> > given up on them completely :) > >> > > >> > Russ > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > SBITS.Biz > >> > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > >> > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > >> > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > >> > North America Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz > >> > Information on Small Business Server 2008 - http://www.sbs2008.com > >> > Information on Essentials Business Server - http://www.ebs2008.com > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > - > >> > > >> > "Kerry Brown" <kerry(a)kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message > >> > news:A812603A-34DA-4197-93C3-D7C1C515E529(a)microsoft.com... > >> >> I've never been able to get the SBS backup to work with a Samba Server > >> >> unless the Samba Server supports AD. The device in question doesn't > >> >> support AD so it's unlikely it will ever work. You can get NTBackup to > >> >> work if you are logged on and have a drive mapped to a share on the > >> >> Samba > >> >> Server. > >> >> > >> >> Very few low end NAS devices support AD. The cheapest I know of is > >> >> this > >> >> one. > >> >> > >> >> http://www.qnap.com/pro_detail_feature.asp?p_id=79 > >> >> > >> >> Which is around $350.00 without a drive. The lowest cost LaCie NAS > >> >> that > >> >> supports AD is around $750.00. > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Kerry Brown > >> >> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration > >> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <support(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message > >> >> news:eKq2$YFiIHA.4744(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >> >>> Actually some NAS do have AD Support, > >> >>> > >> >>> and XFS is just the Linux File system > >> >>> And that's not the issue . > >> >>> > >> >>> It's more like Permissions. > >> >>> Like you are not logged into the NAS before the backup starts > >> >>> You will either have to link the NAS with AD > >> >>> *Unknown if it can do this > >> >>> > >> >>> Or Make sure path is accessible with permissions during backup > >> >>> > >> >>> Russ > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> > >> >>> SBITS.Biz > >> >>> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner > >> >>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. > >> >>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) > >> >>> North America Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz > >> >>> Information on Small Business Server 2008 - http://www.sbs2008.com > >> >>> Information on Essentials Business Server - http://www.ebs2008.com > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> - > >> >>> > >> >>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry(a)kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message > >> >>> news:CF75312A-4588-4D7B-84C1-A89B090BEF07(a)microsoft.com... > >> >>>> It's a common problem with low cost networked drives (I hesitate to > >> >>>> call them a NAS device). They use embedded Linux with Samba Server > >> >>>> for > >> >>>> file sharing. Active Directory is not supported. They are really > >> >>>> designed for home or SOHO use. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> -- > >> >>>> Kerry Brown > >> >>>> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration > >> >>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> "Henrik (Hear)" <hear01(a)remove-this-hotmail.com> wrote in message > >> >>>> news:enKYn5DiIHA.2084(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> >>>>> Ritch, > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> According to several documents Ive read, Kerry might be right. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> From the manual: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> For Windows users: > >> >>>>> To access the LaCie Ethernet Disk mini or Ethernet Big Disk using > >> >>>>> Microsoft Windows, look in My Network Places. By default, the LaCie > >> >>>>> Ethernet Disk mini will be named "EDmini" under Workgroup. When you > >> >>>>> attempt to access a share, you will be asked to enter a username > >> >>>>> and a > >> >>>>> password. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> The drive Is installed on the network as a network connected unit > >> >>>>> with > >> >>>>> Its own user access. Its not a domain connected unit and doesnt > >> >>>>> have > >> >>>>> the user account that NTBackup Is using. Its using its wn built in > >> >>>>> credentials. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Note. > >> >>>>> When reading several manualls, they state that SBS2003 and Windows > >> >>>>> Server 2003 are not supported systems. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> A suggestion: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> In the manualls there Is an options that gives you possibility to > >> >>>>> mapp > >> >>>>> the drive to a letter In Explorer. If this is done on your SBS > >> >>>>> (though > >> >>>>> its not a supported OS), try to backup that drive thru the letter, > >> >>>>> not > >> >>>>> by using UNC path. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Coorect me If im wrong here, but i think the credentials used when > >> >>>>> mapping the drive gives the NTBackup account possibility to write > >> >>>>> to > >> >>>>> the drive when mapped. If Im wrong i hope someone can correct me. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Also note that, the mapped drive Is only mapped when logged on to > >> >>>>> the > >> >>>>> machine, the connected drive disconnects by default when logging > >> >>>>> out. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> -- > >> >>>>> Henrik Arenblad, MCP SBS, > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> "Henrik (Hear)" <hear01(a)remove-this-hotmail.com> wrote in message > >> >>>>> news:uadEPzDiIHA.4468(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> >>>>>> Ritch, > >> >>>>>> Whats the modell nr of your drive? > >> >>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>> Henrik Arenblad, MCP SBS, > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry(a)kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message > >> >>>>>> news:7AE54A0C-C3E8-40C0-8582-F3A3334B1971(a)microsoft.com... > >> >>>>>>> I'm guessing it's a permissions problem. The SBS backup runs as > >> >>>>>>> the > >> >>>>>>> System account which may not have permissions on the NAS. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>>> Kerry Brown > >> >>>>>>> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration > >> >>>>>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> "Ritch_DA" <RitchDA(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >>>>>>> news:0FA9A176-56A2-46DD-AA43-5972C27C07B4(a)microsoft.com... > >> >>>>>>>> Hi there > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> I have just installed a 500GB LaCie ETHERNET DISK MINI GIGABIT > >> >>>>>>>> NAS > >> >>>>>>>> on one of > >> >>>>>>>> our networks. Everything is working fine, can access the drive > >> >>>>>>>> through the > >> >>>>>>>> network, save files etc. I have gone to configure SBS backup > >> >>>>>>>> wizard > >> >>>>>>>> to > >> >>>>>>>> schedule a full backup to the disk every x days, tried to run a > >> >>>>>>>> test backup > >> >>>>>>>> and it fails with the following error message: > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> Backup Runner started. Launching NTBackup: ntbackup.exe backup > >> >>>>>>>> "@C:\Program > >> >>>>>>>> Files\Microsoft Windows Small Business Server\Backup\Small > >> >>>>>>>> Business > >> >>>>>>>> Backup > >> >>>>>>>> Script.bks" /d "SBS Backup created on 14/03/2008 at 09:29" > >> >>>>>>>> /v:yes > >> >>>>>>>> /r:no > >> >>>>>>>> /rs:no /hc:off /m normal /j "Small Business Server Backup Job" > >> >>>>>>>> /l:s > >> >>>>>>>> /f > >> >>>>>>>> "\\Bte_nas\test\Backup Files\Small Business Server Backup > >> >>>>>>>> (05).bkf" > >> >>>>>>>> /UM > >> >>>>>>>> NTBACKUP LOG FILE: C:\Documents and Settings\SBS Backup > >> >>>>>>>> User\Local > >> >>>>>>>> Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows > >> >>>>>>>> NT\NTBackup\data\backup07.log > >> >>>>>>>> =====================<BEGIN NTBACKUP LOG > >> >>>>>>>> FILE>===================== > >> >>>>>>>> Backup > >> >>>>>>>> Status The operation was not performed because the specified > >> >>>>>>>> media > >> >>>>>>>> cannot be > >> >>>>>>>> found. > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> I have already emailed Lacie about this but so far had no reply. > >> >>>>>>>> can anyone advise on how to get this working ASAP? I have had no > >> >>>>>>>> experience > >> >>>>>>>> of XFS file systems and I think permissions is probably the > >> >>>>>>>> issue. > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> Many thanks > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> Ritch > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >
From: Henrik (Hear) on 18 Mar 2008 05:33
Well, the charge Is lesser then the purchase cost I assume. I didnt say it wouldnt work even though it doesnt state its supported. Using USB is different, you are then using an aknowledged standard and therefore should work. BUT if a drive for some reason uses drivers to work, then theres the problem that occurs, It most often the drivers that faile on you when it doesnt work.Spite, buying USB drives Is cheaper then your NAS even if you were charged for the returning of them. I normally use Iomega drives and have for years and they work without any problems. Maybe ther are others that are better ( i dont know) but mine works fine. Because of a system rebuild and a pre-migration process with my own environment Im right now running my backups to a 2,5 inch (5400rpm) pocket USB drive and it takes 25Gb approx. 2,2 hrs to complete. Not supported, homebuild pocketdrive of 40Gb and I have two of them that I take of site each day (have an home office). -- Henrik Arenblad, MCP SBS, "Ritch_DA" <RitchDA(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:AC4BB10E-87BE-4913-B5DD-4C981220C641(a)microsoft.com... > Hi Henrik > > I have just organised to have the drives returned, got slightly stung with > a > charge but that's my own fault. > > Thing is with regards to the supported OS issue, I have a 500GB Mybook USB > which just sais XP compatible just like the Lacie and that works fine with > SBS2003, in fact looking through the list of drives from my supplier none > of > them so far state compatibility with 2003. > > Can someone recommend a 500GB USB drive which they know works with > ntbackup > / sbs2003? We are on a tight budget so anything around �100 would be > ideal. I > am tempted to just stick with the Mybook drives as I know they work and > have > never let me down. > > Any suggestions would be great, thanks. > > > "Henrik (Hear)" wrote: > >> Hi, dont see it as supported. It doesnt say that Windows 2003 Server >> family >> products are supported. >> Okej, they doesnt say they arent either but what the lost say is the >> system >> that are, and the server 2003 family isnt on that list. >> >> Check with the supplyer if you can return them? Sell them on Ebay? ;-) >> >> -- >> Henrik Arenblad, MCP SBS, >> >> >> "Ritch_DA" <RitchDA(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:D4246AB5-A425-4631-AD3D-6459F877CEAE(a)microsoft.com... >> > What a nightmare. >> > >> > Wish I had spoken to you guys before buying the drives, bought 3 as >> > they >> > were a bargain! I think there is a lesson to be learnt here >> > somewhere... >> > you >> > get what you pay for or something along those lines :D >> > >> > What happens if I attach the drive via USB, then reformat it with NTFS >> > and >> > assign the correct permissions? Or wont it let me do that? Might be >> > worth >> > a >> > try. >> > >> > Thanks for all your help anyway guys. I will post back if I ever get >> > the >> > thing working. >> > >> > >> > >> > "Kerry Brown" wrote: >> > >> >> USB is much easier. >> >> >> >> You also have the advantage of rotating multiple drives with some >> >> stored >> >> off >> >> site. That would be a real headache with NAS devices. I too have given >> >> up >> >> on >> >> NAS for backups. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Kerry Brown >> >> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration >> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <support(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message >> >> news:eHon3gKiIHA.1164(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >> >I have, but I don't like NAS units anymore... >> >> > After experiencing issues with the "READYNAS and a "Linksys" one >> >> > I've >> >> > given up on them completely :) >> >> > >> >> > Russ >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > >> >> > SBITS.Biz >> >> > Microsoft Gold Certified Partner >> >> > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. >> >> > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) >> >> > North America Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz >> >> > Information on Small Business Server 2008 - http://www.sbs2008.com >> >> > Information on Essentials Business Server - http://www.ebs2008.com >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > - >> >> > >> >> > "Kerry Brown" <kerry(a)kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message >> >> > news:A812603A-34DA-4197-93C3-D7C1C515E529(a)microsoft.com... >> >> >> I've never been able to get the SBS backup to work with a Samba >> >> >> Server >> >> >> unless the Samba Server supports AD. The device in question doesn't >> >> >> support AD so it's unlikely it will ever work. You can get NTBackup >> >> >> to >> >> >> work if you are logged on and have a drive mapped to a share on the >> >> >> Samba >> >> >> Server. >> >> >> >> >> >> Very few low end NAS devices support AD. The cheapest I know of is >> >> >> this >> >> >> one. >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.qnap.com/pro_detail_feature.asp?p_id=79 >> >> >> >> >> >> Which is around $350.00 without a drive. The lowest cost LaCie NAS >> >> >> that >> >> >> supports AD is around $750.00. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Kerry Brown >> >> >> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration >> >> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <support(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message >> >> >> news:eKq2$YFiIHA.4744(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> >>> Actually some NAS do have AD Support, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> and XFS is just the Linux File system >> >> >>> And that's not the issue . >> >> >>> >> >> >>> It's more like Permissions. >> >> >>> Like you are not logged into the NAS before the backup starts >> >> >>> You will either have to link the NAS with AD >> >> >>> *Unknown if it can do this >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Or Make sure path is accessible with permissions during backup >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Russ >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >>> >> >> >>> SBITS.Biz >> >> >>> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner >> >> >>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist. >> >> >>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS) >> >> >>> North America Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz >> >> >>> Information on Small Business Server 2008 - http://www.sbs2008.com >> >> >>> Information on Essentials Business Server - http://www.ebs2008.com >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> - >> >> >>> >> >> >>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry(a)kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message >> >> >>> news:CF75312A-4588-4D7B-84C1-A89B090BEF07(a)microsoft.com... >> >> >>>> It's a common problem with low cost networked drives (I hesitate >> >> >>>> to >> >> >>>> call them a NAS device). They use embedded Linux with Samba >> >> >>>> Server >> >> >>>> for >> >> >>>> file sharing. Active Directory is not supported. They are really >> >> >>>> designed for home or SOHO use. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> -- >> >> >>>> Kerry Brown >> >> >>>> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration >> >> >>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> "Henrik (Hear)" <hear01(a)remove-this-hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >>>> news:enKYn5DiIHA.2084(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >> >>>>> Ritch, >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> According to several documents Ive read, Kerry might be right. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> From the manual: >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> For Windows users: >> >> >>>>> To access the LaCie Ethernet Disk mini or Ethernet Big Disk >> >> >>>>> using >> >> >>>>> Microsoft Windows, look in My Network Places. By default, the >> >> >>>>> LaCie >> >> >>>>> Ethernet Disk mini will be named "EDmini" under Workgroup. When >> >> >>>>> you >> >> >>>>> attempt to access a share, you will be asked to enter a username >> >> >>>>> and a >> >> >>>>> password. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> The drive Is installed on the network as a network connected >> >> >>>>> unit >> >> >>>>> with >> >> >>>>> Its own user access. Its not a domain connected unit and doesnt >> >> >>>>> have >> >> >>>>> the user account that NTBackup Is using. Its using its wn built >> >> >>>>> in >> >> >>>>> credentials. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Note. >> >> >>>>> When reading several manualls, they state that SBS2003 and >> >> >>>>> Windows >> >> >>>>> Server 2003 are not supported systems. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> A suggestion: >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> In the manualls there Is an options that gives you possibility >> >> >>>>> to >> >> >>>>> mapp >> >> >>>>> the drive to a letter In Explorer. If this is done on your SBS >> >> >>>>> (though >> >> >>>>> its not a supported OS), try to backup that drive thru the >> >> >>>>> letter, >> >> >>>>> not >> >> >>>>> by using UNC path. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Coorect me If im wrong here, but i think the credentials used >> >> >>>>> when >> >> >>>>> mapping the drive gives the NTBackup account possibility to >> >> >>>>> write >> >> >>>>> to >> >> >>>>> the drive when mapped. If Im wrong i hope someone can correct >> >> >>>>> me. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Also note that, the mapped drive Is only mapped when logged on >> >> >>>>> to >> >> >>>>> the >> >> >>>>> machine, the connected drive disconnects by default when logging >> >> >>>>> out. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> -- >> >> >>>>> Henrik Arenblad, MCP SBS, >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> "Henrik (Hear)" <hear01(a)remove-this-hotmail.com> wrote in >> >> >>>>> message >> >> >>>>> news:uadEPzDiIHA.4468(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> >>>>>> Ritch, >> >> >>>>>> Whats the modell nr of your drive? >> >> >>>>>> -- >> >> >>>>>> Henrik Arenblad, MCP SBS, >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry(a)kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message >> >> >>>>>> news:7AE54A0C-C3E8-40C0-8582-F3A3334B1971(a)microsoft.com... >> >> >>>>>>> I'm guessing it's a permissions problem. The SBS backup runs >> >> >>>>>>> as >> >> >>>>>>> the >> >> >>>>>>> System account which may not have permissions on the NAS. >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> -- >> >> >>>>>>> Kerry Brown >> >> >>>>>>> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration >> >> >>>>>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> "Ritch_DA" <RitchDA(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> >>>>>>> message >> >> >>>>>>> news:0FA9A176-56A2-46DD-AA43-5972C27C07B4(a)microsoft.com... >> >> >>>>>>>> Hi there >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> I have just installed a 500GB LaCie ETHERNET DISK MINI >> >> >>>>>>>> GIGABIT >> >> >>>>>>>> NAS >> >> >>>>>>>> on one of >> >> >>>>>>>> our networks. Everything is working fine, can access the >> >> >>>>>>>> drive >> >> >>>>>>>> through the >> >> >>>>>>>> network, save files etc. I have gone to configure SBS backup >> >> >>>>>>>> wizard >> >> >>>>>>>> to >> >> >>>>>>>> schedule a full backup to the disk every x days, tried to run >> >> >>>>>>>> a >> >> >>>>>>>> test backup >> >> >>>>>>>> and it fails with the following error message: >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> Backup Runner started. Launching NTBackup: ntbackup.exe >> >> >>>>>>>> backup >> >> >>>>>>>> "@C:\Program >> >> >>>>>>>> Files\Microsoft Windows Small Business Server\Backup\Small >> >> >>>>>>>> Business >> >> >>>>>>>> Backup >> >> >>>>>>>> Script.bks" /d "SBS Backup created on 14/03/2008 at 09:29" >> >> >>>>>>>> /v:yes >> >> >>>>>>>> /r:no >> >> >>>>>>>> /rs:no /hc:off /m normal /j "Small Business Server Backup >> >> >>>>>>>> Job" >> >> >>>>>>>> /l:s >> >> >>>>>>>> /f >> >> >>>>>>>> "\\Bte_nas\test\Backup Files\Small Business Server Backup >> >> >>>>>>>> (05).bkf" >> >> >>>>>>>> /UM >> >> >>>>>>>> NTBACKUP LOG FILE: C:\Documents and Settings\SBS Backup >> >> >>>>>>>> User\Local >> >> >>>>>>>> Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows >> >> >>>>>>>> NT\NTBackup\data\backup07.log >> >> >>>>>>>> =====================<BEGIN NTBACKUP LOG >> >> >>>>>>>> FILE>===================== >> >> >>>>>>>> Backup >> >> >>>>>>>> Status The operation was not performed because the specified >> >> >>>>>>>> media >> >> >>>>>>>> cannot be >> >> >>>>>>>> found. >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> I have already emailed Lacie about this but so far had no >> >> >>>>>>>> reply. >> >> >>>>>>>> can anyone advise on how to get this working ASAP? I have had >> >> >>>>>>>> no >> >> >>>>>>>> experience >> >> >>>>>>>> of XFS file systems and I think permissions is probably the >> >> >>>>>>>> issue. >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> Many thanks >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> Ritch >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> |