From: PD on
On Apr 3, 6:24 pm, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 9:54 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Apr 2, 5:20 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 1, 9:04 pm, ganesh <ganeshs...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > hi,
> > > >    The right handed neutrino is a gauge singlet. Hence its
> > > > superpartner right handed sneutrino should be a candidate for a gauge
> > > > singlet for the linear term in the  superpotential. So, why do we say
> > > > that MSSM does not have any candidate particle for the linear term in
> > > > the superpotential
>
> > > > ganesh
>
> > > How does a point rotate?
>
> > > And how many degrees of freedom does a point rotate in?
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > It doesn't. Quantum mechanical spin does not mean rotation.
>
> > If the term confuses you, then stop calling it spin and start calling
> > it fernification.
> > It is a unique property and so it might be easier if you gave it a
> > unique name.
>
> > PD-
>
> so, what is it, pd?

It is a quantum mechanical property that distinguishes particles.
Particles with half-integer fernification obey a particular kind of
collective behavior called Fermi-Dirac statistics; particles with
integer fernification obey a different kind of collective behavior
called Bose-Einstein statistics. Both are completely different than
anything observed in the ordinary world. It so happens that the
transformation properties of fernification bear a resemblance to the
same mathematical rules that govern the transformation of angular
momentum, and so rather than calling it fernification, the word "spin"
was lifted, although it means something completely different than
rotation.

PD
From: BURT on
On Apr 4, 6:38 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 6:00 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Apr 3, 8:54 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 2, 5:20 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Apr 1, 9:04 pm, ganesh <ganeshs...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > hi,
> > > > >    The right handed neutrino is a gauge singlet. Hence its
> > > > > superpartner right handed sneutrino should be a candidate for a gauge
> > > > > singlet for the linear term in the  superpotential. So, why do we say
> > > > > that MSSM does not have any candidate particle for the linear term in
> > > > > the superpotential
>
> > > > > ganesh
>
> > > > How does a point rotate?
>
> > > > And how many degrees of freedom does a point rotate in?
>
> > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > It doesn't. Quantum mechanical spin does not mean rotation.
>
> > > If the term confuses you, then stop calling it spin and start calling
> > > it fernification.
> > > It is a unique property and so it might be easier if you gave it a
> > > unique name.
>
> > > PD- Hide quoted text -
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> > A point cannot rotate. Spin requires changing sizes of radius.
>
> No, it doesn't. Quantum mechanical spin doesn't mean changing radius
> or rotating.
>
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> > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
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Then how many degrees of freedom can the praticles spin have?
And does it have an orientation?

Mitch Raemsch
From: PD on
On Apr 4, 9:18 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 6:38 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 3, 6:00 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 3, 8:54 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Apr 2, 5:20 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Apr 1, 9:04 pm, ganesh <ganeshs...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > hi,
> > > > > >    The right handed neutrino is a gauge singlet. Hence its
> > > > > > superpartner right handed sneutrino should be a candidate for a gauge
> > > > > > singlet for the linear term in the  superpotential. So, why do we say
> > > > > > that MSSM does not have any candidate particle for the linear term in
> > > > > > the superpotential
>
> > > > > > ganesh
>
> > > > > How does a point rotate?
>
> > > > > And how many degrees of freedom does a point rotate in?
>
> > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > It doesn't. Quantum mechanical spin does not mean rotation.
>
> > > > If the term confuses you, then stop calling it spin and start calling
> > > > it fernification.
> > > > It is a unique property and so it might be easier if you gave it a
> > > > unique name.
>
> > > > PD- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > - Show quoted text -
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> > > A point cannot rotate. Spin requires changing sizes of radius.
>
> > No, it doesn't. Quantum mechanical spin doesn't mean changing radius
> > or rotating.
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> Then how many degrees of freedom can the praticles spin have?
> And does it have an orientation?

One. Yes, though it can only be measured if energy degeneracy is
removed by the application, say, of a magnetic field, which determines
a direction.

>
> Mitch Raemsch

From: BURT on
On Apr 4, 7:45 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 9:18 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
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>
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> > On Apr 4, 6:38 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 3, 6:00 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 3, 8:54 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Apr 2, 5:20 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Apr 1, 9:04 pm, ganesh <ganeshs...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > hi,
> > > > > > >    The right handed neutrino is a gauge singlet. Hence its
> > > > > > > superpartner right handed sneutrino should be a candidate for a gauge
> > > > > > > singlet for the linear term in the  superpotential. So, why do we say
> > > > > > > that MSSM does not have any candidate particle for the linear term in
> > > > > > > the superpotential
>
> > > > > > > ganesh
>
> > > > > > How does a point rotate?
>
> > > > > > And how many degrees of freedom does a point rotate in?
>
> > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > It doesn't. Quantum mechanical spin does not mean rotation.
>
> > > > > If the term confuses you, then stop calling it spin and start calling
> > > > > it fernification.
> > > > > It is a unique property and so it might be easier if you gave it a
> > > > > unique name.
>
> > > > > PD- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > - Show quoted text -
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> > > > A point cannot rotate. Spin requires changing sizes of radius.
>
> > > No, it doesn't. Quantum mechanical spin doesn't mean changing radius
> > > or rotating.
>
> > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
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> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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> > > - Show quoted text -
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> > Then how many degrees of freedom can the praticles spin have?
> > And does it have an orientation?
>
> One. Yes, though it can only be measured if energy degeneracy is
> removed by the application, say, of a magnetic field, which determines
> a direction.
>
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> > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
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Please explain what is spinning and how it is not a rotation.
Spin is defined as a steady rotation with a chaning size of radius.
Such is the ice skater pulling in her arms.

How is the spin oriented?
Does it have infinite degrees of freedom and rotational speeds?

Mitch Raemsch
From: PD on
On Apr 4, 10:03 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 7:45 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 4, 9:18 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 4, 6:38 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 3, 6:00 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Apr 3, 8:54 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Apr 2, 5:20 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Apr 1, 9:04 pm, ganesh <ganeshs...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > hi,
> > > > > > > >    The right handed neutrino is a gauge singlet. Hence its
> > > > > > > > superpartner right handed sneutrino should be a candidate for a gauge
> > > > > > > > singlet for the linear term in the  superpotential. So, why do we say
> > > > > > > > that MSSM does not have any candidate particle for the linear term in
> > > > > > > > the superpotential
>
> > > > > > > > ganesh
>
> > > > > > > How does a point rotate?
>
> > > > > > > And how many degrees of freedom does a point rotate in?
>
> > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > > It doesn't. Quantum mechanical spin does not mean rotation.
>
> > > > > > If the term confuses you, then stop calling it spin and start calling
> > > > > > it fernification.
> > > > > > It is a unique property and so it might be easier if you gave it a
> > > > > > unique name.
>
> > > > > > PD- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > A point cannot rotate. Spin requires changing sizes of radius.
>
> > > > No, it doesn't. Quantum mechanical spin doesn't mean changing radius
> > > > or rotating.
>
> > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
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> > > Then how many degrees of freedom can the praticles spin have?
> > > And does it have an orientation?
>
> > One. Yes, though it can only be measured if energy degeneracy is
> > removed by the application, say, of a magnetic field, which determines
> > a direction.
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> Please explain what is spinning and how it is not a rotation.

It is not spinning. Quantum mechanical "spin" is just a word that has
been borrowed. A much better term would "funnifulation" so what you
don't think it means something it doesn't.

> Spin is defined as a steady rotation with a chaning size of radius.
> Such is the ice skater pulling in her arms.

No, there are more definitions of spin than that. Quantum mechanical
spin has NOTHING to do with what a skater does.

>
> How is the spin oriented?
> Does it have infinite degrees of freedom and rotational speeds?

There is no rotation, so there are no rotational speeds.

>
> Mitch Raemsch