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From: Jolly Roger on 22 Feb 2010 19:03 In article <7ugj6aFntkU1(a)mid.individual.net>, TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote: > On 2010-02-22 16:07:29 -0600, Jim Gibson said: > > > In article <here-8FB6CA.22251717022010(a)news.central.cox.net>, Mike > > <here(a)there.org> wrote: > > > >> My niece needs some aid in finding a software package to build web > >> pages. She's a beginner - she's gotten a part time job with a state > >> legislator who needs her to build a web page. I did some Googling but I > >> don't know anything about it so I don't know what to tell her. > >> > >> Any suggestions are appreciated. > > > > Dreamweaver from Adobe is probably the state of the art in commercial > > web-building packages. It is expensive, and has a steep learning curve, > > but if her employer can afford to pay her he can afford software for > > her. It runs on Windows and Mac. She should also look for a Dreamweaver > > course to take. > > And then there is Freeway (which comes in a Pro and an Express version) > which is far easier for a novice to learn as it requires absolutely no > knowledge of HTML and such. And also, Freeway will produce W3C > compliant code, something which tends to not be true with other website > development packages. Interestingly, Freeway was mentioned, yet ignored, several times in this thread. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: dorayme on 22 Feb 2010 19:40 In article <220220101407291358%jimsgibson(a)gmail.com>, Jim Gibson <jimsgibson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > In article <here-8FB6CA.22251717022010(a)news.central.cox.net>, Mike > <here(a)there.org> wrote: > > > My niece needs some aid in finding a software package to build web > > pages. She's a beginner - she's gotten a part time job with a state > > legislator who needs her to build a web page. I did some Googling but I > > don't know anything about it so I don't know what to tell her. > > > > Any suggestions are appreciated. > > Dreamweaver from Adobe is probably the state of the art in commercial > web-building packages. It is expensive, and has a steep learning curve, > but if her employer can afford to pay her he can afford software for > her. It runs on Windows and Mac. She should also look for a Dreamweaver > course to take. Dreamweaver is the very last thing that should be suggested for a beginner. -- dorayme
From: Jim Gibson on 22 Feb 2010 20:55 In article <doraymeRidThis-9721A4.11402623022010(a)news.albasani.net>, dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > In article <220220101407291358%jimsgibson(a)gmail.com>, > Jim Gibson <jimsgibson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > In article <here-8FB6CA.22251717022010(a)news.central.cox.net>, Mike > > <here(a)there.org> wrote: > > > > > My niece needs some aid in finding a software package to build web > > > pages. She's a beginner - she's gotten a part time job with a state > > > legislator who needs her to build a web page. I did some Googling but I > > > don't know anything about it so I don't know what to tell her. > > > > > > Any suggestions are appreciated. > > > > Dreamweaver from Adobe is probably the state of the art in commercial > > web-building packages. It is expensive, and has a steep learning curve, > > but if her employer can afford to pay her he can afford software for > > her. It runs on Windows and Mac. She should also look for a Dreamweaver > > course to take. > > Dreamweaver is the very last thing that should be suggested for a > beginner. Which is why I suggested it after all the other suggestions had been made :) Seriously, I would recommend a professional package as opposed to freeware. I don't know anything about Freeway, but I would think that a politician would need a professionally-built website that can be maintained for a long time and adhere to changing web standards. That is not to say it couldn't be done with Freeway or any other free or cheap package (Sea Monkey, iWeb), but I would think that those software packages are not as capable as Dreamweaver. I don't particularly like Dreamweaver, but it is full of features and has the advantage of being widely-used so that help in the form of books and courses are available. The OP is looking for suggestions, not just recommendations. I have a friend who is not a programmer and knows little about HTML but learned Dreamweaver from a community college course and put together a very professional looking website. It mostly depends upon the aptitude of the learner. -- Jim Gibson
From: dorayme on 22 Feb 2010 21:31 In article <220220101755459205%jimsgibson(a)gmail.com>, Jim Gibson <jimsgibson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > In article <doraymeRidThis-9721A4.11402623022010(a)news.albasani.net>, > dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > In article <220220101407291358%jimsgibson(a)gmail.com>, > > Jim Gibson <jimsgibson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > In article <here-8FB6CA.22251717022010(a)news.central.cox.net>, Mike > > > <here(a)there.org> wrote: > > > > > > > My niece needs some aid in finding a software package to build web > > > > pages. She's a beginner - she's gotten a part time job with a state > > > > legislator who needs her to build a web page. I did some Googling but I > > > > don't know anything about it so I don't know what to tell her. > > > > > > > > Any suggestions are appreciated. > > > > > > Dreamweaver from Adobe is probably the state of the art in commercial > > > web-building packages. ... > > > > Dreamweaver is the very last thing that should be suggested for a > > beginner. > > Which is why I suggested it after all the other suggestions had been > made :) > > Seriously, I would recommend a professional package as opposed to > freeware. I don't know anything about Freeway, but I would think that a > politician would need a professionally-built website that can be > maintained for a long time and adhere to changing web standards. That > is not to say it couldn't be done with Freeway or any other free or > cheap package (Sea Monkey, iWeb), but I would think that those software > packages are not as capable as Dreamweaver. > A beginner would not know what capabilities were what for possibly years. The reason a program like Dreamweaver is a bad idea for a beginner is slightly similar to the reason an inexperienced rider should not get the biggest and most powerful motor bike straight off. To use DW to advantage, it really helps to understand HTML and CSS. In other words, it is best in the hands of those who do not absolutely need it. Some of its functions, in experienced hands, can save time. > I don't particularly like Dreamweaver, but it is full of features and > has the advantage of being widely-used so that help in the form of > books and courses are available. The OP is looking for suggestions, not > just recommendations. > Nothing wrong with making suggestions, Jim. <g> I would suggest quite a different course. Get an experienced developer to supply a content management system website (eg. someone competent in Drupal). The niece will have plenty of work to instruct the developer, approving and disapproving designs and initial content. Plus, with CMS, she will be able to make her own inputs with simple tools (no need to learn HTML or CSS now). Now and in the future, she will have many editing functions and online too! -- dorayme
From: TaliesinSoft on 23 Feb 2010 00:27
On 2010-02-22 18:03:59 -0600, Jolly Roger said: [responding to my recommendation of Freeway as a website development program] > Interestingly, Freeway was mentioned, yet ignored, several times in this > thread. To me, developing a website with Freeway is somewhat like developing a slideshow in Keylnote. One works in a visual environment and works with objects and associated actions. There are some good demonstration videos on the Softpress (the developers of Freeway) website at <www.softpress.com>. As an aside, the Softpress website itself was developed in Freeway and passes he W3C validation with 0 errors. I'm not sure just what was used to develop the Adobe website but it produces 23 errors with the W3C validation. -- James Leo Ryan --- Austin, Texas --- taliesinsoft(a)me.com |