From: TaliesinSoft on
On 2010-02-24 15:21:27 -0600, dorayme said:

[commenting on Freeway for the development of websites]

> It goes with the territory of WSYIWYG not to know many important
> technical details. This is understandable. But what it means is
> that the software should not only be very good but should come
> with very good documentation. And if it really came with
> documentation that a beginner could understand, it would need to
> be very long indeed and explain the sort of basic issues I have
> been alluding to. It is no doubt possible to do this but it would
> require the software maker himself to understand stuff about best
> practice and what at least is to be avoided and to put the points
> in terms of his software (rather than HTML/CSS).

Freeway, both Express and Pro, come with a 117 page introductory
printed manual and a 448 page PDF manual, a printed copy of which can
be purchased. In addition Softpress offers both free onlline and free
telephone support. Also the Softpress website includes a number of
tutorials, both textual and video, to provide help when needed.

--
James Leo Ryan --- Austin, Texas --- taliesinsoft(a)me.com

From: TaliesinSoft on
Somehow the "need to know a bit of HTML" reminds me of a time around
1983 when I was given a presentation at an office of Linotype Hell
outside of Boston. What was being shown was a system which allowed a
person to prepare text using a markup language and then when having
completed the description of a page to have that page printed using the
typefaces and sizes and formatting specified in the markup language.
All the person saw when composing the document was a plain text version
with the interposed markups which specified such as font size, bold
facing, italics, and such. I remember asking the presenter that it
would seem to be much better if the person doing the composing could
see on their console screen an image of the document as it would appear
instead of just seeing the markedup version in plain text. His answer
was "There will never be enough computing power to do that!"

--
James Leo Ryan --- Austin, Texas --- taliesinsoft(a)me.com

From: dorayme on
In article <7umipfFft4U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote:

> Somehow the "need to know a bit of HTML" reminds me of a time around
> 1983 when I was given a presentation at an office of Linotype Hell
> outside of Boston. What was being shown was a system which allowed a
> person to prepare text using a markup language and then when having
> completed the description of a page to have that page printed using the
> typefaces and sizes and formatting specified in the markup language.
> All the person saw when composing the document was a plain text version
> with the interposed markups which specified such as font size, bold
> facing, italics, and such. I remember asking the presenter that it
> would seem to be much better if the person doing the composing could
> see on their console screen an image of the document as it would appear
> instead of just seeing the markedup version in plain text. His answer
> was "There will never be enough computing power to do that!"

Point taken. I suspect that the problem we are discussing with
website building is at least an order of magnitude more
difficult. But I also suspect that the wild west situation that
exists at the moment will get more civilized as browsers mature
and adopt more common standards (to mention just one avenue of
hope)

--
dorayme
From: dorayme on
In article <7umgm6F71vU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote:

> As I mentioned, this came up in an internet
> discussion and was originally posted as a suggestion that Freeway
> didn't implement some things correctly

I suggested that it was a poor show that folk advertising website
making tools should adopt poor practices in their own pages. That
is all. I don't want to exaggerate the fault I saw, I am not
saying it is crime of the century. But I have seen quite a few
things that are a great worry since...

I have no idea whether a more cluey use of the Freeway software
would fix the problem. It may well not be some inevitable problem
with Freeway software but with how it is used. Though I suspect
that it would be hard to avoid, but this is going beyond my
knowledge of Freeway (which is almost nil).

--
dorayme
From: Warren Oates on
In article <doraymeRidThis-3E7629.13305525022010(a)news.albasani.net>,
dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> Please put up a url where you specify the font-size in pts,
> specify a font-family and we will see if what you say is right in
> the experience of folk who own both Window PCs and Macs (or
> different operating systems at least which they regularly use)

You don't use em for font sizing?
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