From: Jolly Roger on
In article <C5783157.298B1%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>,
Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote:

> In article jollyroger-FFB2CC.15500224122008(a)news.individual.net, Jolly Roger
> at jollyroger(a)pobox.com wrote on 12/24/08 4:50 PM:
>
> > In article <C578079B.2988C%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>,
> > Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I've been automatically backing up to separate externals for many months:
> >> SD! (once a day) on one, TM (9 times a day) on the other.
> >
> > Ok... ?
>
> I interpreted your "I let SuperDuper back up my entire startup volume on my
> Mac Pro last night, and then first thing this morning applied the combo
> update" to mean you took a safety precaution prior to updating the OS.

Ah I see. Absolutely.

My normal backup regimen is to back up the home directories of every
computer in the house. If I backed up everything else for every computer
in the house, I'd need a significantly larger backup set, which would
not only be more expensive to maintain, but also more cumbersome to move
off site when i switch backup sets once a week. In the event of failure,
I can re-install operating systems and applications if needed, and then
restore user data. But for things like operating system updates and
upgrades, where I'm going to make a risky change to a single machine, I
grab a spare hard drive and use SuperDuper to make a complete backup of
the entire startup disk, just in case.

> Since
> I am always within 24 hours of a cloned backup, and several hours from an
> archival backup, I have a reasonably continuous "safety net," so I will be
> "covered" whenever I get the balls to attempt the update.

Yep - I concur with that statement.

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From: Nick Naym on
In article jollyroger-D3705E.20135724122008(a)news.individual.net, Jolly Roger
at jollyroger(a)pobox.com wrote on 12/24/08 9:13 PM:

> In article <C5783157.298B1%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>,
> Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In article jollyroger-FFB2CC.15500224122008(a)news.individual.net, Jolly Roger
>> at jollyroger(a)pobox.com wrote on 12/24/08 4:50 PM:
>>
>>> In article <C578079B.2988C%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>,
>>> Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been automatically backing up to separate externals for many months:
>>>> SD! (once a day) on one, TM (9 times a day) on the other.
>>>
>>> Ok... ?
>>
>> I interpreted your "I let SuperDuper back up my entire startup volume on my
>> Mac Pro last night, and then first thing this morning applied the combo
>> update" to mean you took a safety precaution prior to updating the OS.
>
> Ah I see. Absolutely.
>
> My normal backup regimen is to back up the home directories of every
> computer in the house. If I backed up everything else for every computer
> in the house, I'd need a significantly larger backup set, which would
> not only be more expensive to maintain, but also more cumbersome to move
> off site when i switch backup sets once a week. In the event of failure,
> I can re-install operating systems and applications if needed, and then
> restore user data. But for things like operating system updates and
> upgrades, where I'm going to make a risky change to a single machine, I
> grab a spare hard drive and use SuperDuper to make a complete backup of
> the entire startup disk, just in case.
>
>> Since
>> I am always within 24 hours of a cloned backup, and several hours from an
>> archival backup, I have a reasonably continuous "safety net," so I will be
>> "covered" whenever I get the balls to attempt the update.
>
> Yep - I concur with that statement.


You do? Really?? I must be getting lucky! <<joking>>


(Now...go have a Dundee. :) )


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From: Jolly Roger on
In article <giuci9$pin$1(a)reader.motzarella.org>,
John McWilliams <jpmcw(a)comcast.net> wrote:

> Jolly Roger wrote:
>
> > Since you have a backup, why
> > wouldn't you simply install the 10.5.6 combo update over what you had?
>
> What I had? You mean the backup? It was already updated, and with the
> combo updater.

I get it now - you are making reference to a problem you described in
another thread, titled "Failure to Eject". That's what confused me. ; )

> >> Is it easy to avoid creating a new user if taking the first option above?
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand the question - or more to the point, I'm not
> > sure i understand exactly what you had before you started, and what you
> > did / how it has changed.
>
> Wiped the internal drive. Installed with installer disks that came with
> the iMac (10.2). Then I updated software after testing that eject worked
> fine, as it did just following the update.
>
> Then ran Migration Assistant, but in so doing I ended up with two users.
> The new user can eject; the migrated user, the one I want, cannot eject
> normally.

This is the problem with migrating existing data to a new system - you
get *all* the data, including the bad data. ; )

So if I were you, I would consider deleting the non-working user
account, and hand-picking only the data you really care about / need
from your backup, and copying it into the new, working user account. I
would copy everything in Documents, Desktop, Music, Pictures, and so on,
while avoiding copying the entire Library folder, because that's likely
where the problem lies.

> One question I had was whether Migration Assistant makes it possible to
> not create a new user, but just come in with what you had before on the
> SuperDuper! back up.

Perhaps if the short user name is the same.

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From: aRKay on
In article <jollyroger-897027.12193724122008(a)news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:

> Well if it's any help, I let SuperDuper back up my entire startup volume
> on my Mac Pro last night, and then first thing this morning applied the
> combo update. Everything seems to have gone without a hitch so far.
>
> I'll evaluate the machine during the next day or two to make sure
> everything is in working order, and will make a decision about whether I
> want to roll out the update to the other machines I manage.

The test of good install is to see if you can do a Time Machine update.
If it works, you are good to go
From: Jolly Roger on
In article
<arkayREMOVE-07FF44.09281225122008(a)news.houston.sbcglobal.net>,
aRKay <arkayREMOVE(a)qsl.net> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-897027.12193724122008(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > Well if it's any help, I let SuperDuper back up my entire startup volume
> > on my Mac Pro last night, and then first thing this morning applied the
> > combo update. Everything seems to have gone without a hitch so far.
> >
> > I'll evaluate the machine during the next day or two to make sure
> > everything is in working order, and will make a decision about whether I
> > want to roll out the update to the other machines I manage.
>
> The test of good install is to see if you can do a Time Machine update.
> If it works, you are good to go

I don't use Time Machine on this machine, so...

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