From: Jolly Roger on 24 Dec 2008 21:13 In article <C5783157.298B1%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>, Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote: > In article jollyroger-FFB2CC.15500224122008(a)news.individual.net, Jolly Roger > at jollyroger(a)pobox.com wrote on 12/24/08 4:50 PM: > > > In article <C578079B.2988C%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>, > > Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> I've been automatically backing up to separate externals for many months: > >> SD! (once a day) on one, TM (9 times a day) on the other. > > > > Ok... ? > > I interpreted your "I let SuperDuper back up my entire startup volume on my > Mac Pro last night, and then first thing this morning applied the combo > update" to mean you took a safety precaution prior to updating the OS. Ah I see. Absolutely. My normal backup regimen is to back up the home directories of every computer in the house. If I backed up everything else for every computer in the house, I'd need a significantly larger backup set, which would not only be more expensive to maintain, but also more cumbersome to move off site when i switch backup sets once a week. In the event of failure, I can re-install operating systems and applications if needed, and then restore user data. But for things like operating system updates and upgrades, where I'm going to make a risky change to a single machine, I grab a spare hard drive and use SuperDuper to make a complete backup of the entire startup disk, just in case. > Since > I am always within 24 hours of a cloned backup, and several hours from an > archival backup, I have a reasonably continuous "safety net," so I will be > "covered" whenever I get the balls to attempt the update. Yep - I concur with that statement. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Nick Naym on 24 Dec 2008 22:31 In article jollyroger-D3705E.20135724122008(a)news.individual.net, Jolly Roger at jollyroger(a)pobox.com wrote on 12/24/08 9:13 PM: > In article <C5783157.298B1%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>, > Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote: > >> In article jollyroger-FFB2CC.15500224122008(a)news.individual.net, Jolly Roger >> at jollyroger(a)pobox.com wrote on 12/24/08 4:50 PM: >> >>> In article <C578079B.2988C%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>, >>> Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I've been automatically backing up to separate externals for many months: >>>> SD! (once a day) on one, TM (9 times a day) on the other. >>> >>> Ok... ? >> >> I interpreted your "I let SuperDuper back up my entire startup volume on my >> Mac Pro last night, and then first thing this morning applied the combo >> update" to mean you took a safety precaution prior to updating the OS. > > Ah I see. Absolutely. > > My normal backup regimen is to back up the home directories of every > computer in the house. If I backed up everything else for every computer > in the house, I'd need a significantly larger backup set, which would > not only be more expensive to maintain, but also more cumbersome to move > off site when i switch backup sets once a week. In the event of failure, > I can re-install operating systems and applications if needed, and then > restore user data. But for things like operating system updates and > upgrades, where I'm going to make a risky change to a single machine, I > grab a spare hard drive and use SuperDuper to make a complete backup of > the entire startup disk, just in case. > >> Since >> I am always within 24 hours of a cloned backup, and several hours from an >> archival backup, I have a reasonably continuous "safety net," so I will be >> "covered" whenever I get the balls to attempt the update. > > Yep - I concur with that statement. You do? Really?? I must be getting lucky! <<joking>> (Now...go have a Dundee. :) ) -- iMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) � OS X (10.5.4)
From: Jolly Roger on 25 Dec 2008 00:02 In article <giuci9$pin$1(a)reader.motzarella.org>, John McWilliams <jpmcw(a)comcast.net> wrote: > Jolly Roger wrote: > > > Since you have a backup, why > > wouldn't you simply install the 10.5.6 combo update over what you had? > > What I had? You mean the backup? It was already updated, and with the > combo updater. I get it now - you are making reference to a problem you described in another thread, titled "Failure to Eject". That's what confused me. ; ) > >> Is it easy to avoid creating a new user if taking the first option above? > > > > I'm not sure I understand the question - or more to the point, I'm not > > sure i understand exactly what you had before you started, and what you > > did / how it has changed. > > Wiped the internal drive. Installed with installer disks that came with > the iMac (10.2). Then I updated software after testing that eject worked > fine, as it did just following the update. > > Then ran Migration Assistant, but in so doing I ended up with two users. > The new user can eject; the migrated user, the one I want, cannot eject > normally. This is the problem with migrating existing data to a new system - you get *all* the data, including the bad data. ; ) So if I were you, I would consider deleting the non-working user account, and hand-picking only the data you really care about / need from your backup, and copying it into the new, working user account. I would copy everything in Documents, Desktop, Music, Pictures, and so on, while avoiding copying the entire Library folder, because that's likely where the problem lies. > One question I had was whether Migration Assistant makes it possible to > not create a new user, but just come in with what you had before on the > SuperDuper! back up. Perhaps if the short user name is the same. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: aRKay on 25 Dec 2008 10:28 In article <jollyroger-897027.12193724122008(a)news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > Well if it's any help, I let SuperDuper back up my entire startup volume > on my Mac Pro last night, and then first thing this morning applied the > combo update. Everything seems to have gone without a hitch so far. > > I'll evaluate the machine during the next day or two to make sure > everything is in working order, and will make a decision about whether I > want to roll out the update to the other machines I manage. The test of good install is to see if you can do a Time Machine update. If it works, you are good to go
From: Jolly Roger on 25 Dec 2008 14:04
In article <arkayREMOVE-07FF44.09281225122008(a)news.houston.sbcglobal.net>, aRKay <arkayREMOVE(a)qsl.net> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-897027.12193724122008(a)news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > Well if it's any help, I let SuperDuper back up my entire startup volume > > on my Mac Pro last night, and then first thing this morning applied the > > combo update. Everything seems to have gone without a hitch so far. > > > > I'll evaluate the machine during the next day or two to make sure > > everything is in working order, and will make a decision about whether I > > want to roll out the update to the other machines I manage. > > The test of good install is to see if you can do a Time Machine update. > If it works, you are good to go I don't use Time Machine on this machine, so... -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR |