From: Nick Naym on 24 Dec 2008 02:19 In article tom_stiller-B497AB.15242923122008(a)news.verizon.net, Tom Stiller at tom_stiller(a)yahoo.com wrote on 12/23/08 3:24 PM: ... ... > > The "standard" update is not machine specific, but if you use the > Software Update application, it downloads and installs updates to only > those components currently installed which require an update. That's > what the "Checking for new software..." is all about. I just checked the Software Update, and realized that it's been telling me that the system update it wants to install is the Combo for 10.5.6, not the Standard. IIRC, previous updates it offered were the Standard ones. Is it offering to install the 10.5.6 Combo because I'm an "update skipper" -- still at 10.5.4, having repeatedly postponed its previous offers to install 10.5.5? -- iMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) � OS X (10.5.4)
From: Jolly Roger on 24 Dec 2008 03:11 Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote: > In article tom_stiller-B497AB.15242923122008(a)news.verizon.net, Tom > Stiller > at tom_stiller(a)yahoo.com wrote on 12/23/08 3:24 PM: > > .. > .. > > > > > The "standard" update is not machine specific, but if you use the > > Software Update application, it downloads and installs updates to > only > > those components currently installed which require an update. > That's > > what the "Checking for new software..." is all about. > > I just checked the Software Update, and realized that it's been > telling me > that the system update it wants to install is the Combo for 10.5.6, > not the > Standard. IIRC, previous updates it offered were the Standard ones. > > Is it offering to install the 10.5.6 Combo because I'm an "update > skipper" > -- still at 10.5.4, having repeatedly postponed its previous offers to > install 10.5.5? Yep. -- Posted from my iPhone.
From: Nick Naym on 24 Dec 2008 04:23 In article 1151517930251799001.179509jollyroger-pobox.com(a)news.individual.net, Jolly Roger at jollyroger(a)pobox.com wrote on 12/24/08 3:11 AM: > Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote: >> In article tom_stiller-B497AB.15242923122008(a)news.verizon.net, Tom >> Stiller >> at tom_stiller(a)yahoo.com wrote on 12/23/08 3:24 PM: >> >> .. >> .. >> >>> >>> The "standard" update is not machine specific, but if you use the >>> Software Update application, it downloads and installs updates to >> only >>> those components currently installed which require an update. >> That's >>> what the "Checking for new software..." is all about. >> >> I just checked the Software Update, and realized that it's been >> telling me >> that the system update it wants to install is the Combo for 10.5.6, >> not the >> Standard. IIRC, previous updates it offered were the Standard ones. >> >> Is it offering to install the 10.5.6 Combo because I'm an "update >> skipper" >> -- still at 10.5.4, having repeatedly postponed its previous offers to >> install 10.5.5? > > Yep. Two questions: 1. It seems that the Combo it's offering is the same as the downloadable one, based on its size. In other words, while Software Update only downloads ....errr..."portions" of the Standard one, depending on what your specific machine requires, there is no such similar "tailoring to your system" with the Combo, is that correct? 2. You had previously said: "I'm still waiting for the waters to settle a bit before I apply the latest update. And when i do, it'll definitely be the manually-downloaded Combo updater." What does "waiting for the waters to settle" mean? Are you suggesting that Apple likely will be re-issuing the Standard and Combo updates, modified to address the problems folks seem to be having? (My intent is to follow your suggestion to first install the Combo before embarking on an Archive and Install to address the problems I've been experiencing. But I certainly don't want to do that until I can be assured that the update won't introduce its own set of (additional) problems.) -- iMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) � OS X (10.5.4)
From: Jolly Roger on 24 Dec 2008 05:03 In article <C57769AA.29800%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>, Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote: > Two questions: > > 1. It seems that the Combo it's offering is the same as the downloadable > one, based on its size. In other words, while Software Update only downloads > ...errr..."portions" of the Standard one, depending on what your specific > machine requires, there is no such similar "tailoring to your system" with > the Combo, is that correct? Unknown. I've seen at least one person suggest Software Update detects your particular architecture and installs updates for that particular architecture. I believe the 10.5.6 combo updater is universal, so I'm not sure if this is the case for this update. > 2. You had previously said: > > "I'm still waiting for the waters to settle a bit before I apply the > latest update. And when i do, it'll definitely be the > manually-downloaded Combo updater." > > What does "waiting for the waters to settle" mean? I'm reading reports of how the update has gone wrong for various people, and waiting until i feel relatively sure I won't experience the major issues, and I know how to recover should I experience any problems. > Are you suggesting that > Apple likely will be re-issuing the Standard and Combo updates, modified to > address the problems folks seem to be having? Apple has done this in the past, so waiting also gives Apple time to do this if needed. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Nick Naym on 24 Dec 2008 05:20
In article jollyroger-9D6C08.04030624122008(a)news.individual.net, Jolly Roger at jollyroger(a)pobox.com wrote on 12/24/08 5:03 AM: > In article <C57769AA.29800%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>, > Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote: .... .... > > I'm reading reports of how the update has gone wrong for various people, > and waiting until i feel relatively sure I won't experience the major > issues, and I know how to recover should I experience any problems. > >> Are you suggesting that >> Apple likely will be re-issuing the Standard and Combo updates, modified to >> address the problems folks seem to be having? > > Apple has done this in the past, so waiting also gives Apple time to do > this if needed. Well then, I may very well wait until either Apple does something, or you finish (and, hopefully, post) your assessment, whichever comes first. -- iMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) � OS X (10.5.4) |