10.5.6 update causes wake from sleep problems
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From: aRKay on 22 Dec 2008 20:34 In article <jollyroger-677C96.03480022122008(a)news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > In article > <arkayREMOVE-F17C9A.19062321122008(a)news.houston.sbcglobal.net>, > aRKay <arkayREMOVE(a)qsl.net> wrote: > > > In article > > <arkayREMOVE-D070C3.12240321122008(a)news.houston.sbcglobal.net>, > > aRKay <arkayREMOVE(a)qsl.net> wrote: > > > > > In article <gary-365856.14492618122008(a)shawnews.wp.shawcable.net>, > > > Gary <gary(a)nowhere.nothing> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Ever since I installed the 10.5.6 update on my alu iMac it > > > > > > > frequently > > > > > > > fails to wake from sleep and has to be hard rebooted. I googled > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > seems no one else has this problem. Am I really the only one? > > > > > > Your not alone. I have had trouble waking from Sleep and even getting a > > > good start after a Shut Down. Holding in the button was a waste of > > > time. Apple really screwed the pouch with the OS X 10.5.6 Combo updater > > > > > > The last trick I tried that seems to work was to remove the power plug > > > from the back of the Intel iMac and all external connections. Wait a > > > few minutes and restart. I just did it and manage to put it to sleep > > > and even woke it up. Try it .... the price is right > > > > As a follow up.... my sleep and startup issues are history. Pulling > > the plug and all external connections to the Intel iMac did the job. > > Sounds like the problem was likely a USB or Firewire malfunction then. Sorry, it was not a USB or Firewire issue. The problem was created by the lame Apple 10.5.6 Combo update. Pulling all connections is the only way to really do a reset with this Intel iMac. Apple should be ashamed of the 10.5.6 Combo update.
From: Gregory Weston on 22 Dec 2008 21:21 In article <arkayREMOVE-22A216.19344622122008(a)news.houston.sbcglobal.net>, aRKay <arkayREMOVE(a)qsl.net> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-677C96.03480022122008(a)news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > In article > > <arkayREMOVE-F17C9A.19062321122008(a)news.houston.sbcglobal.net>, > > aRKay <arkayREMOVE(a)qsl.net> wrote: > > > > > In article > > > <arkayREMOVE-D070C3.12240321122008(a)news.houston.sbcglobal.net>, > > > aRKay <arkayREMOVE(a)qsl.net> wrote: > > > > > > > In article <gary-365856.14492618122008(a)shawnews.wp.shawcable.net>, > > > > Gary <gary(a)nowhere.nothing> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ever since I installed the 10.5.6 update on my alu iMac it > > > > > > > > frequently > > > > > > > > fails to wake from sleep and has to be hard rebooted. I googled > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > seems no one else has this problem. Am I really the only one? > > > > > > > > Your not alone. I have had trouble waking from Sleep and even getting > > > > a > > > > good start after a Shut Down. Holding in the button was a waste of > > > > time. Apple really screwed the pouch with the OS X 10.5.6 Combo > > > > updater > > > > > > > > The last trick I tried that seems to work was to remove the power plug > > > > from the back of the Intel iMac and all external connections. Wait a > > > > few minutes and restart. I just did it and manage to put it to sleep > > > > and even woke it up. Try it .... the price is right > > > > > > As a follow up.... my sleep and startup issues are history. Pulling > > > the plug and all external connections to the Intel iMac did the job. > > > > Sounds like the problem was likely a USB or Firewire malfunction then. > > Sorry, it was not a USB or Firewire issue. The problem was created by > the lame Apple 10.5.6 Combo update. Pulling all connections is the only > way to really do a reset with this Intel iMac. Apple should be ashamed > of the 10.5.6 Combo update. The procedure you described is, IIRC, the way to reset the power manager on current/recent models. Not something I'd expect the OS update to necessarily be going after. And the 10.5.6 Combo updater ran without issue or noticeable side-effect on my MacBook and my Intel mini, so it seems like there's got to be something else in play. -- "Harry?" Ron's voice was a mere whisper. "Do you smell something ... burning?" - Harry Potter and the Odor of the Phoenix
From: Jamie Kahn Genet on 23 Dec 2008 01:48 Gregory Weston <uce(a)splook.com> wrote: > In article > <arkayREMOVE-22A216.19344622122008(a)news.houston.sbcglobal.net>, > aRKay <arkayREMOVE(a)qsl.net> wrote: > > > In article <jollyroger-677C96.03480022122008(a)news.individual.net>, > > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > > > In article > > > <arkayREMOVE-F17C9A.19062321122008(a)news.houston.sbcglobal.net>, > > > aRKay <arkayREMOVE(a)qsl.net> wrote: > > > > > > > In article > > > > <arkayREMOVE-D070C3.12240321122008(a)news.houston.sbcglobal.net>, > > > > aRKay <arkayREMOVE(a)qsl.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In article <gary-365856.14492618122008(a)shawnews.wp.shawcable.net>, > > > > > Gary <gary(a)nowhere.nothing> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ever since I installed the 10.5.6 update on my alu iMac it > > > > > > > > > frequently fails to wake from sleep and has to be hard > > > > > > > > > rebooted. I googled and it seems no one else has this > > > > > > > > > problem. Am I really the only one? > > > > > > > > > > Your not alone. I have had trouble waking from Sleep and even getting > > > > > a > > > > > good start after a Shut Down. Holding in the button was a waste of > > > > > time. Apple really screwed the pouch with the OS X 10.5.6 Combo > > > > > updater > > > > > > > > > > The last trick I tried that seems to work was to remove the power plug > > > > > from the back of the Intel iMac and all external connections. Wait a > > > > > few minutes and restart. I just did it and manage to put it to sleep > > > > > and even woke it up. Try it .... the price is right > > > > > > > > As a follow up.... my sleep and startup issues are history. Pulling > > > > the plug and all external connections to the Intel iMac did the job. > > > > > > Sounds like the problem was likely a USB or Firewire malfunction then. > > > > Sorry, it was not a USB or Firewire issue. The problem was created by > > the lame Apple 10.5.6 Combo update. Pulling all connections is the only > > way to really do a reset with this Intel iMac. Apple should be ashamed > > of the 10.5.6 Combo update. > > The procedure you described is, IIRC, the way to reset the power manager > on current/recent models. Not something I'd expect the OS update to > necessarily be going after. And the 10.5.6 Combo updater ran without > issue or noticeable side-effect on my MacBook and my Intel mini, so it > seems like there's got to be something else in play. IMO Apple ought to be ashamed of Software Update's inability to verify downloaded delta updates before it tries to install them. An incomplete update should be a piece of cake to detect in such a closed system. OTOH the combo updater I downloaded from Apple's website went off without a hitch, thank goodness. -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
From: Jolly Roger on 23 Dec 2008 02:52 In article <1isf2p9.1enz1hzc4e6n3N%jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz>, jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote: > Gregory Weston <uce(a)splook.com> wrote: > > > In article > > <arkayREMOVE-22A216.19344622122008(a)news.houston.sbcglobal.net>, > > aRKay <arkayREMOVE(a)qsl.net> wrote: > > > > > In article <jollyroger-677C96.03480022122008(a)news.individual.net>, > > > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > > > > > In article > > > > <arkayREMOVE-F17C9A.19062321122008(a)news.houston.sbcglobal.net>, > > > > aRKay <arkayREMOVE(a)qsl.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > <arkayREMOVE-D070C3.12240321122008(a)news.houston.sbcglobal.net>, > > > > > aRKay <arkayREMOVE(a)qsl.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In article <gary-365856.14492618122008(a)shawnews.wp.shawcable.net>, > > > > > > Gary <gary(a)nowhere.nothing> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ever since I installed the 10.5.6 update on my alu iMac it > > > > > > > > > > frequently fails to wake from sleep and has to be hard > > > > > > > > > > rebooted. I googled and it seems no one else has this > > > > > > > > > > problem. Am I really the only one? > > > > > > > > > > > > Your not alone. I have had trouble waking from Sleep and even > > > > > > getting > > > > > > a > > > > > > good start after a Shut Down. Holding in the button was a waste > > > > > > of > > > > > > time. Apple really screwed the pouch with the OS X 10.5.6 Combo > > > > > > updater > > > > > > > > > > > > The last trick I tried that seems to work was to remove the power > > > > > > plug > > > > > > from the back of the Intel iMac and all external connections. Wait > > > > > > a > > > > > > few minutes and restart. I just did it and manage to put it to > > > > > > sleep > > > > > > and even woke it up. Try it .... the price is right > > > > > > > > > > As a follow up.... my sleep and startup issues are history. Pulling > > > > > the plug and all external connections to the Intel iMac did the job. > > > > > > > > Sounds like the problem was likely a USB or Firewire malfunction then. > > > > > > Sorry, it was not a USB or Firewire issue. The problem was created by > > > the lame Apple 10.5.6 Combo update. Pulling all connections is the only > > > way to really do a reset with this Intel iMac. Apple should be ashamed > > > of the 10.5.6 Combo update. > > > > The procedure you described is, IIRC, the way to reset the power manager > > on current/recent models. Not something I'd expect the OS update to > > necessarily be going after. And the 10.5.6 Combo updater ran without > > issue or noticeable side-effect on my MacBook and my Intel mini, so it > > seems like there's got to be something else in play. > > IMO Apple ought to be ashamed of Software Update's inability to verify > downloaded delta updates before it tries to install them. An incomplete > update should be a piece of cake to detect in such a closed system. > > OTOH the combo updater I downloaded from Apple's website went off > without a hitch, thank goodness. I'm still waiting for the waters to settle a bit before I apply the latest update. And when i do, it'll definitely be the manually-downloaded Combo updater. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: aRKay on 23 Dec 2008 12:06
In article <jollyroger-E915F8.01521223122008(a)news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > In article <1isf2p9.1enz1hzc4e6n3N%jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz>, > jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote: > > > Gregory Weston <uce(a)splook.com> wrote: > > > > > In article > > > <arkayREMOVE-22A216.19344622122008(a)news.houston.sbcglobal.net>, > > > aRKay <arkayREMOVE(a)qsl.net> wrote: > > > > > > > In article <jollyroger-677C96.03480022122008(a)news.individual.net>, > > > > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > <arkayREMOVE-F17C9A.19062321122008(a)news.houston.sbcglobal.net>, > > > > > aRKay <arkayREMOVE(a)qsl.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > <arkayREMOVE-D070C3.12240321122008(a)news.houston.sbcglobal.net>, > > > > > > aRKay <arkayREMOVE(a)qsl.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > <gary-365856.14492618122008(a)shawnews.wp.shawcable.net>, > > > > > > > Gary <gary(a)nowhere.nothing> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ever since I installed the 10.5.6 update on my alu iMac > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > frequently fails to wake from sleep and has to be hard > > > > > > > > > > > rebooted. I googled and it seems no one else has this > > > > > > > > > > > problem. Am I really the only one? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your not alone. I have had trouble waking from Sleep and even > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > good start after a Shut Down. Holding in the button was a waste > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > time. Apple really screwed the pouch with the OS X 10.5.6 Combo > > > > > > > updater > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The last trick I tried that seems to work was to remove the power > > > > > > > plug > > > > > > > from the back of the Intel iMac and all external connections. > > > > > > > Wait > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > few minutes and restart. I just did it and manage to put it to > > > > > > > sleep > > > > > > > and even woke it up. Try it .... the price is right > > > > > > > > > > > > As a follow up.... my sleep and startup issues are history. > > > > > > Pulling > > > > > > the plug and all external connections to the Intel iMac did the > > > > > > job. > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like the problem was likely a USB or Firewire malfunction > > > > > then. > > > > > > > > Sorry, it was not a USB or Firewire issue. The problem was created by > > > > the lame Apple 10.5.6 Combo update. Pulling all connections is the > > > > only > > > > way to really do a reset with this Intel iMac. Apple should be ashamed > > > > of the 10.5.6 Combo update. > > > > > > The procedure you described is, IIRC, the way to reset the power manager > > > on current/recent models. Not something I'd expect the OS update to > > > necessarily be going after. And the 10.5.6 Combo updater ran without > > > issue or noticeable side-effect on my MacBook and my Intel mini, so it > > > seems like there's got to be something else in play. > > > > IMO Apple ought to be ashamed of Software Update's inability to verify > > downloaded delta updates before it tries to install them. An incomplete > > update should be a piece of cake to detect in such a closed system. > > > > OTOH the combo updater I downloaded from Apple's website went off > > without a hitch, thank goodness. > > I'm still waiting for the waters to settle a bit before I apply the > latest update. And when i do, it'll definitely be the > manually-downloaded Combo updater. I used the Software Update to get 10.5.6 and everything worked. I then read there was a Combo updater so I downloaded it as I prefer to use combo updater. This was when my problems started. The Combo updater hosed my setup such that the Time Machine would no longer work. After reading the Apple discussion group that others had the same issues, I finally fixed the TM with some terminal commands. I then ran into the recovery from sleep that is the subject of this discussion. If I had it to do over again I would use ONLY the software update and would not use the Combo 10.5.6. JR, I suggest you avoid the Combo |