From: Iarnrod on
On Oct 3, 10:19 pm, knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> On Oct 3, 3:06 pm, pv+use...(a)pobox.com (PV) wrote:> knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com writes:
> > >Where is the building?
>
> > It was destroyed, fucknugget.
>
> So just how does a steel framed building fall straight down through
> it's most resistant structure while being turned into micron sized
> particles also containing iron spheres that could only be created by
> incendiaries?http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS345&=&q=...

None of that happened, sweetie. Wake up and smell the coffee. You
don't have to be a kook all your life.
From: Iarnrod on
On Oct 3, 10:33 pm, knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> On Oct 3, 2:04 pm, Iarnrod <iarn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 3, 1:46 pm, "AllYou!" <ida...(a)conversent.net> wrote:
>
> > > Innews:e32b8bbc-63db-4a1e-aacb-8a37dcbcbabc(a)i4g2000prm.googlegroups.com,
> > > knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com <knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com> mused:
>
> > > > On Oct 3, 7:11 am, "AllYou!" <ida...(a)conversent.net> wrote:
> > > >> Innews:216eb011-4375-45a9-a6e3-8b8c16716135(a)y28g2000prd.googlegroups.com,
> > > >> knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com <knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com> mused:
>
> > > >>> On Oct 2, 4:39 am, "AllYou!" <ida...(a)conversent.net> wrote:
> > > >>>> Innews:6a329f66-529c-4225-b022-39c9f5eb0426(a)v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com,
> > > >>>> knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com <knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com> mused:
>
> > > >>>>> On Oct 1, 2:35 pm, "AllYou!" <ida...(a)conversent.net> wrote:
> > > >>>>>> Innews:852aa34a-add3-464d-abed-3068ff9b03db(a)g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com,
> > > >>>>>> knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com <knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com> mused:
>
> > > >>>>>>> On Oct 1, 12:22 pm, ady...(a)panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>> In article
> > > >>>>>>>> <dd6e9f5e-86fd-4222-a0ae-dde189490...(a)d9g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > >>>>>>>> <knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 8:13=A0am, Iarnrod <iarn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 7:58=A0am, Henry <9-11tr...(a)experts.org>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Daniel wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 23, 3:49 pm, Henry <9-11tr...(a)experts.org>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> =A0 And even there had been, it couldn't have melted
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the steel,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> It didn't melt the steel, and it didn't have to.
>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> =A0 We know the fires didn't melt the steel. Only
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> thermite explains it.
>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> No steel melted, and it is physically impossible for
> > > >>>>>>>>>> thermite to produce what happened on 9/11. Other than
> > > >>>>>>>>>> that, Hankie, you're still batting 0.000.
>
> > > >>>>>>>>> How does one become such a liar?
>
> > > >>>>>>>> There is no eyewitness reports of molten steel on the pile
> > > >>>>>>>> at WTC.
> > > >>>>>>>> All the reports are second-hand.
>
> > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>> So who took the "first hand" evidence away?
> > > >>>>>>> There are EYEWITNESS accounts of "red hot flowing molten"
> > > >>>>>>> SOMETHING.
>
> > > >>>>>> Even if that fantasy were true, it's not proof that it was
> > > >>>>>> steel. Moreover, you've never shown how any controlled
> > > >>>>>> demolition has ever resulted in pools of molten steel.
>
> > > >>>>>>> The eyewitness couldn't cart the "evidence" away because it
> > > >>>>>>> was CONTROLLED.
> > > >>>>>>> ANY "true scientific" analysis is "IMPOSSIBLE" since the
> > > >>>>>>> evidence "we"
> > > >>>>>>> have is "in dispute."
>
> > > >>>>>> So you have no proof for your claims because it's your claim
> > > >>>>>> that all the proof was stolen. Do you have any proof of THAT
> > > >>>>>> claim?
>
> > > >>>>> Where is the building?
>
> > > >>>> In the middle of the largest city in the world.
>
> > > >>> Liar.
> > > >>> It was hauled away under heavy guard.
>
> > > >> In the middle of one of the largest cities in the world, and
> > > >> then over to various sites to which almost anyone had access.
>
> > > >>>>> Who has it?
>
> > > >>>> Did you expect it to be saved forever?
>
> > > >>> No answer noted.
>
> > > >> Yes, your non answer is noted.
>
> > > >>>>> Did it disappear?
>
> > > >>>> Not before it was thouroughly examined by anyone who wanted to
> > > >>>> see it.
>
> > > >>> Liar.
>
> > > >> Prove it.
>
> > > >>> And the evidence of what was examined has been ignored.
>
> > > >> All the real evidence of what happened was thoroughly included
> > > >> in the determination of the real conclusion.
>
> > > >>> So you and the report writers lie about it.
>
> > > >> Prove it.
>
> > > >>>>> If there is none does that mean the buildings never existed?
>
> > > >>>> It means that your imaginary thermite didn't exist.
>
> > > >>> Liar.
> > > >>>http://journalof911studies.com/volume/2008/Ryan_NIST_and_Nano-1.pdf
>
> > > >> Nothing there is proof of anything at all. It's all just
> > > >> fantasies and arm waving.
>
> > > >>>>> How convenient.
>
> > > >>>> So all of your proof is that THE truth is convenient?
>
> > > >>> The truth is the truth.
>
> > > >> Of which you seem to be incapable of recognizing.
>
> > > >>> You are in denial.
>
> > > >> Of fantasies.
>
> > > > Your Mossad tactics.
> > > >http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS345&q=disinfo+tact...
>
> > > So THAT's where you learned your tactics.  got it.
>
> > He's finally exposing himself for the anti-semitic kooker he is. It
> > all comes down to the evil joooooooooos for these asswipes.
>
> http://rense.com/general87/nhe.htm
>
> Today, nearly every network and news outlet in the U.S. mass media is
> owned and controlled by Zionist Jews. This is a statement of fact and
> should not be misconstrued to be anti-Semitic in any way.

Uh, sure, Goebbels.

You need to grow a brain. Seriously. You are so far deep into your
delusions it ain't funny.
From: Al Dykes on
In article <f8c12e60-843f-47e3-b46a-b135a89dadd5(a)j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
<knews4u2chew(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Oct 4, 4:07=A0pm, ady...(a)panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>> In article <e8591c31-2930-460b-b10e-203db9e19...(a)q40g2000prh.googlegroups=
>.com>,
>>
>>
>>
>> =A0<knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >On Oct 4, 2:46=3DA0am, ady...(a)panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>> >> In article <63ec6e4d-819a-4c83-9c1d-80479509c...(a)b25g2000prb.googlegro=
>ups=3D
>> >.com>,
>>
>> >> =3DA0<knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Oct 3, 2:04=3D3DA0pm, Iarnrod <iarn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >> On Oct 3, 1:46=3D3DA0pm, "AllYou!" <ida...(a)conversent.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > Innews:e32b8bbc-63db-4a1e-aacb-8a37dcbcbabc(a)i4g2000prm.googlegrou=
>ps.=3D
>> >com=3D3D
>> >> >,
>> >> >> > knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com <knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com> mused:
>>
>> >> >> > > On Oct 3, 7:11 am, "AllYou!" <ida...(a)conversent.net> wrote:
>> >> >> > >> Innews:216eb011-4375-45a9-a6e3-8b8c16716135(a)y28g2000prd.google=
>gro=3D
>> >ups=3D3D
>> >> >.com,
>> >> >> > >> knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com <knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com> mused:
>>
>> >> >> > >>> On Oct 2, 4:39 am, "AllYou!" <ida...(a)conversent.net> wrote:
>> >> >> > >>>> Innews:6a329f66-529c-4225-b022-39c9f5eb0426(a)v37g2000prg.goog=
>leg=3D
>> >rou=3D3D
>> >> >ps.com,
>> >> >> > >>>> knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com <knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com> mused:
>>
>> >> >> > >>>>> On Oct 1, 2:35 pm, "AllYou!" <ida...(a)conversent.net> wrote:
>> >> >> > >>>>>> Innews:852aa34a-add3-464d-abed-3068ff9b03db(a)g1g2000pra.goo=
>gle=3D
>> >gro=3D3D
>> >> >ups.com,
>> >> >> > >>>>>> knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com <knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com> mused:
>>
>> >> >> > >>>>>>> On Oct 1, 12:22 pm, ady...(a)panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>> In article
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>> <dd6e9f5e-86fd-4222-a0ae-dde189490...(a)d9g2000prh.googleg=
>rou=3D
>> >ps.=3D3D
>> >> >com>,
>>
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>> <knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 8:13=3D3D3DA0am, Iarnrod <iarn...(a)yahoo.com> =
>wrote=3D
>> >:
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 7:58=3D3D3DA0am, Henry <9-11tr...(a)experts.or=
>g>
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 23, 3:49 pm, Henry <9-11tr...(a)experts.org>
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3DA0 And even there had been, it couldn't have=
> melt=3D
>> >ed
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the steel,
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> It didn't melt the steel, and it didn't have to.
>>
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3DA0 We know the fires didn't melt the steel. On=
>ly
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> thermite explains it.
>>
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> No steel melted, and it is physically impossible for
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> thermite to produce what happened on 9/11. Other than
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> that, Hankie, you're still batting 0.000.
>>
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>> How does one become such a liar?
>>
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>> There is no eyewitness reports of molten steel on the pi=
>le
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>> at WTC.
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>> All the reports are second-hand.
>>
>> >> >> > >>>>>>>> --
>> >> >> > >>>>>>> So who took the "first hand" evidence away?
>> >> >> > >>>>>>> There are EYEWITNESS accounts of "red hot flowing molten"
>> >> >> > >>>>>>> SOMETHING.
>>
>> >> >> > >>>>>> Even if that fantasy were true, it's not proof that it was
>> >> >> > >>>>>> steel. Moreover, you've never shown how any controlled
>> >> >> > >>>>>> demolition has ever resulted in pools of molten steel.
>>
>> >> >> > >>>>>>> The eyewitness couldn't cart the "evidence" away because =
>it
>> >> >> > >>>>>>> was CONTROLLED.
>> >> >> > >>>>>>> ANY "true scientific" analysis is "IMPOSSIBLE" since the
>> >> >> > >>>>>>> evidence "we"
>> >> >> > >>>>>>> have is "in dispute."
>>
>> >> >> > >>>>>> So you have no proof for your claims because it's your cla=
>im
>> >> >> > >>>>>> that all the proof was stolen. Do you have any proof of TH=
>AT
>> >> >> > >>>>>> claim?
>>
>> >> >> > >>>>> Where is the building?
>>
>> >> >> > >>>> In the middle of the largest city in the world.
>>
>> >> >> > >>> Liar.
>> >> >> > >>> It was hauled away under heavy guard.
>>
>> >> >> > >> In the middle of one of the largest cities in the world, and
>> >> >> > >> then over to various sites to which almost anyone had access.
>>
>> >> >> > >>>>> Who has it?
>>
>> >> >> > >>>> Did you expect it to be saved forever?
>>
>> >> >> > >>> No answer noted.
>>
>> >> >> > >> Yes, your non answer is noted.
>>
>> >> >> > >>>>> Did it disappear?
>>
>> >> >> > >>>> Not before it was thouroughly examined by anyone who wanted =
>to
>> >> >> > >>>> see it.
>>
>> >> >> > >>> Liar.
>>
>> >> >> > >> Prove it.
>>
>> >> >> > >>> And the evidence of what was examined has been ignored.
>>
>> >> >> > >> All the real evidence of what happened was thoroughly included
>> >> >> > >> in the determination of the real conclusion.
>>
>> >> >> > >>> So you and the report writers lie about it.
>>
>> >> >> > >> Prove it.
>>
>> >> >> > >>>>> If there is none does that mean the buildings never existed=
>?
>>
>> >> >> > >>>> It means that your imaginary thermite didn't exist.
>>
>> >> >> > >>> Liar.
>> >> >> > >>>http://journalof911studies.com/volume/2008/Ryan_NIST_and_Nano-=
>1.p=3D
>> >df
>>
>> >> >> > >> Nothing there is proof of anything at all. It's all just
>> >> >> > >> fantasies and arm waving.
>>
>> >> >> > >>>>> How convenient.
>>
>> >> >> > >>>> So all of your proof is that THE truth is convenient?
>>
>> >> >> > >>> The truth is the truth.
>>
>> >> >> > >> Of which you seem to be incapable of recognizing.
>>
>> >> >> > >>> You are in denial.
>>
>> >> >> > >> Of fantasies.
>>
>> >> >> > > Your Mossad tactics.
>> >> >> > >http://www.google.com/search?hl=3D3D3Den&rlz=3D3D3D1G1GGLQ_ENUS3=
>45&q=3D3D=3D
>> >3Ddisinfo=3D3D
>> >> >+tact...
>>
>> >> >> > So THAT's where you learned your tactics. =3D3DA0got it.
>>
>> >> >> He's finally exposing himself for the anti-semitic kooker he is. It
>> >> >> all comes down to the evil joooooooooos for these asswipes.
>>
>> >> >http://rense.com/general87/nhe.htm
>>
>> >> >Today, nearly every network and news outlet in the U.S. mass media is
>> >> >owned and controlled by Zionist Jews. This is a statement of fact and
>> >> >should not be misconstrued to be anti-Semitic in any way.
>>
>> >> What does this have to do with the eyewitnesses, possibly as many as
>> >> 100,000 that saw to some aspect of 9/11 and none of whom have joined
>> >> any "truth" movement.
>>
>> >"None?"
>> >Proof?
>>
>> Name one.
>>
>> --
>> Al Dykes
>
>You made the claim.
>You back it up.



Here is the list of all the eyewitnesses I know of that have joined the Truth Movement.

1.
2.
3.

You are welcome to add to it. Names, please. Not URLS.



--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail

From: PV on
Henry <9-11truth(a)experts.org> writes:
> We know the fires didn't melt the steel. Only thermite
>explains it.

*Nothing* melted steel. Steel didn't melt on 9/11. Prove that it did, or
shut up. Thermite doesn't explain anything - it's a bizarre idea that
truthers use because they can't get beyond that there's no evidence of
explosives, so it has to be a magical explosive that doesn't explode.

It's all circular bullshit, and most of the world either ignores truthers
or points and laughs at them. That's as much as they deserve. *
--
* PV Something like badgers, something like lizards, and something
like corkscrews.
From: AllYou! on
In news:hacu2q$6kh$1(a)ruby.cit.cornell.edu,
Henry <9-11truth(a)experts.org> mused:
> Daniel wrote:
>> On Sep 23, 3:49 pm, Henry <9-11tr...(a)experts.org> wrote:
>
>>> And even there had been, it couldn't have melted the steel,
>
>> It didn't melt the steel, and it didn't have to.
>
> We know the fires didn't melt the steel. Only thermite
> explains it.

There was no melted steel. There is only some anecdotal, second
hand reports of some amount of molten metal. No molten steel.

(Insert links here that you mean to imply is evidence of your claim,
but which is only actually proof of mine)
------------>


>> Get back to us once
>> you have some credible sources to back up your claims.
>
> Since you agree that the fires couldn't have produced
> the molten metal, what claim are you disputing?

That there was any molten steel.

> Here are two of our 9-11 rescue heroes who observed molten metal
> "flowing like lava - like a "foundry"

Which is not any kind of evidence that it was molten steel. It
could've been any amount of soft metals and other low-melting point
substances that were in great abundance in a fully occupied sky
scraper.

And why have you never been able to produce even one example of a
building destroyed by controlled demolition to have ever resulted in
pools of molten steel flowing like lava in a foundry.