A constant speed of light in all reference frames? Surely you can't be serious.
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From: paparios on 30 Mar 2010 16:47 On 30 mar, 16:45, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 30, 4:38 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 30, 4:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether DISPLACED by matter. > > > > > > The pressure associated with ENTRAINED aether is different than the > > > > > pressure associated with DISPLACED aether. > > > > > You also said, working from your theory, > > > > > ~that all earth orbits are identical~. > > > > > So you have a problem with your theory. > > > > > Sue... > > > > I have no idea what you are talking about. This is what I said: > > > > Moving in the direction of the Earth's ... > > > No... You said bullet trajectories are not affected > > by altitude (gravitational potential) > > > Until you correct that problem, you are a > > babbling idiot. > > > Sue... > > You are correct. I said: > > "Excluding air pressure, the trajectories will be the same." > > I should have said: > > Excluding the difference in aether pressure, the trajectories will be > the same. Beam me up Scotty....there is NO intelligent life in this thread!!! Miguel Rios
From: mpc755 on 30 Mar 2010 16:50 The following explains what is occurring in nature in the 'experimental realization of Wheeler's delayed-choice Gedanken Experiment'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_de_Broglie "This research culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that any moving particle or object had an associated wave." 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory Louis de BROGLIE' http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case of an external field acting on the particle." "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the defined by ai exp(i:Ái=~) with ai and Ái real. internal motion rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is located." de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of the wave. In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits. For example, in the image on the right here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experiment There are waves propagating both the red and blue paths towards D0. One of the downgraded photon 'particles' is traveling either the red or blue path towards D0. The lens causes the waves to create interference which alters the direction the particle travels. One set of downgraded photons is creating one of the interference patterns at D0 and the other set of downgraded photons is creating the other. It's all very easy to understand once you realize 'delayed-choice', 'quantum eraser', and the future determining the past is simply misinterpreting what is occurring in nature. In the image on the right here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experiment When the downgraded photon pair are created, in order for there to be conservation of momentum, the original photons momentum is maintained. This means the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums. We will describe one of the photons as being the 'up' photon and the other photon as being the 'down' photon. One of the downgraded photons travels either the red or blue path towards D0 and the other photon travels either the red or blue path towards the prism. There are physical waves in the aether propagating both the red and blue paths. The aether waves propagating towards D0 interact with the lens and create interference prior to reaching D0. The aether waves create interference which alters the direction the photon travels prior to reaching D0. There are actually two interference patterns being created at D0. One associated with the 'up' photons when they arrive at D0 and the other interference pattern associated with the 'down' photons when they arrive at D0. Both 'up' and 'down' photons are reflected by BSa and arrive at D3. Since there is a single path towards D3 there is nothing for the wave in the aether to interfere with and there is no interference pattern and since it is not determined if it is an 'up' or 'down' photon being detected at D3 there is no way to distinguish between the photons arriving at D0 which interference pattern each photon belongs to. The same for photons reflected by BSb and arrive at D4. Photons which pass through BSa and are reflected by BSc and arrive at D1 are either 'up' or 'down' photons but not both. If 'up' photons arrive at D1 then 'down' photons arrive at D2. The opposite occurs for photons which pass through BSb. Photons which pass through BSa and pass through BSb and arrive at D1 are all either 'up' or 'down' photons. If all 'up' photons arrive at D1 then all 'down' photons arrive at D2. Since the physical waves in the aether traveling both the red and blue paths are combined prior to D1 and D2 the aether waves create interference which alters the direction the photon travels. Since all 'up' photons arrive at one of the detectors and all 'down' photons arrive at the other an interference pattern is created which reflects back to the interference both sets of photons are creating at D0. Figures 3 and 4 here: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quant-ph/pdf/9903/9903047v1.pdf Show the interference pattern of the 'up' and 'down' photons. If you were to combine the two images and add the peaks together and add the valleys together you would have the interference pattern of the original photon. This is evidence the downgraded photon pair maintain the original photons momentum and have opposite angular momentums. Nothing is erased. There is no delayed choice. Physical waves in the aether are traveling both the red and blue paths and when the paths are combined the waves create interference which alters the direction the photon 'particle' travels. Experiments which will provide evidence of Aether Displacement: Experiment #1: Instead of having a single beam splitter BSc have two beam splitters BSca and BScb. Have the photons reflected by mirror Ma interact with BSca and have the photons reflected by mirror Mb interact with BScb. Do not combine the red and blue paths. Have additional detectors D1a, D2a, D1b, and D2b. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through BSca be detected at D1a and D2a. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through BScb be detected at D1b and D2b. If you compare the photons detected at D1a and D1b with the photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference pattern. If you compare the photons detected at D2a and D2b with the photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference pattern. What is occurring is all 'up' photons are being detected at one pair of detectors, for example D1a and D1b, and all 'down' photons are being detected at the other pair of detectors, for example D2a and D2b. Interference patterns do not even need to be created in order to 'go back' and determine the interference patterns created at D0. Experiment #2: Alter the experiment. When the downgraded photon pair are created, have each photon interact with its own double slit apparatus. Have detectors at one of the exits for each double slit apparatus. When a photon is detected at one of the exits, in AD, the photon's aether wave still exists and is propagating along the path exiting the other slit. When a photon is not detected at one of the exits, the photon 'particle' along with its associated aether wave exits the other slit. Combine the path the aether wave the detected photon is propagating along with the path of the other photon and its associated aether wave. An interference pattern will still be created. This shows the aether wave of a detected photon still exists and is able to create interference with the aether wave of another photon, altering the direction the photon 'particle' travels. Your inability to physically explain the following is evidence you feign hypothesis: - The future determining the past - Virtual particles which exist out of nothing - Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair - A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having a change in momentum. - Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move The following are the most correct physical explanations to date: - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the plates forces the plates together - Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair. When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved, the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums. - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by matter.
From: Sue... on 30 Mar 2010 17:00 On Mar 30, 4:45 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 30, 4:38 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 30, 4:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether DISPLACED by matter. > > > > > > The pressure associated with ENTRAINED aether is different than the > > > > > pressure associated with DISPLACED aether. > > > > > You also said, working from your theory, > > > > > ~that all earth orbits are identical~. > > > > > So you have a problem with your theory. > > > > > Sue... > > > > I have no idea what you are talking about. This is what I said: > > > > Moving in the direction of the Earth's ... > > > No... You said bullet trajectories are not affected > > by altitude (gravitational potential) > > > Until you correct that problem, you are a > > babbling idiot. > > > Sue... > > You are correct. I said: > > "Excluding air pressure, the trajectories will be the same." > > I should have said: > > Excluding the difference in aether pressure, the trajectories will be > the same. Unless you are a vegetarian, you are not a threat to future generations. There will be no meat on plates of your children and Darwin will handle the details. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parabolic_trajectory Sue...
From: mpc755 on 30 Mar 2010 17:02 On Mar 30, 5:00 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > On Mar 30, 4:45 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 30, 4:38 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > On Mar 30, 4:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether DISPLACED by matter. > > > > > > > The pressure associated with ENTRAINED aether is different than the > > > > > > pressure associated with DISPLACED aether. > > > > > > You also said, working from your theory, > > > > > > ~that all earth orbits are identical~. > > > > > > So you have a problem with your theory. > > > > > > Sue... > > > > > I have no idea what you are talking about. This is what I said: > > > > > Moving in the direction of the Earth's ... > > > > No... You said bullet trajectories are not affected > > > by altitude (gravitational potential) > > > > Until you correct that problem, you are a > > > babbling idiot. > > > > Sue... > > > You are correct. I said: > > > "Excluding air pressure, the trajectories will be the same." > > > I should have said: > > > Excluding the difference in aether pressure, the trajectories will be > > the same. > > Unless you are a vegetarian, you are not a threat to > future generations. There will be no meat on > plates of your children and Darwin will handle the > details. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parabolic_trajectory > > Sue... Moving in the direction of the Earth's rotation, eastward, causes a greater Aether pressure than moving in the direction against the Earth's rotation, westward. The state of the aether is determined by its connections with the matter which is the Earth. This means the aether is less connected to the Earth where the airplanes fly in the 'Hafele and Keating Experiment' than it is to the surface of the Earth. If you could 'see' the aether it would appear as if the aether were 'flowing' east to west compared to the surface of the Earth. The aether is still 'flowing' west to east but not the same rate as the surface of the Earth. http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/HBASE/Relativ/airtim.html "Relative to the atomic time scale of the U.S. Naval Observatory, the flying clocks lost 59+/-10 nanoseconds during the eastward trip and gained 273+/-7 nanosecond during the westward trip, where the errors are the corresponding standard deviations." Flying with the Earth's rotation, eastward, is flying against the 'flow' of aether, relative to the surface of the Earth, causing a greater Aether pressure on the atomic clock causing the atomic clock to tick slower relative to a similar clock on the surface of the Earth. Flying against the Earth's rotation, westward, is flying with the 'flow' of aether, relative to the surface of the Earth, causing a lower aether pressure on the atomic clock causing the atomic clock to tick faster relative to a similar clock on the surface of the Earth.
From: mpc755 on 30 Mar 2010 17:06
On Mar 30, 5:00 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > On Mar 30, 4:45 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 30, 4:38 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > On Mar 30, 4:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether DISPLACED by matter. > > > > > > > The pressure associated with ENTRAINED aether is different than the > > > > > > pressure associated with DISPLACED aether. > > > > > > You also said, working from your theory, > > > > > > ~that all earth orbits are identical~. > > > > > > So you have a problem with your theory. > > > > > > Sue... > > > > > I have no idea what you are talking about. This is what I said: > > > > > Moving in the direction of the Earth's ... > > > > No... You said bullet trajectories are not affected > > > by altitude (gravitational potential) > > > > Until you correct that problem, you are a > > > babbling idiot. > > > > Sue... > > > You are correct. I said: > > > "Excluding air pressure, the trajectories will be the same." > > > I should have said: > > > Excluding the difference in aether pressure, the trajectories will be > > the same. > > Unless you are a vegetarian, you are not a threat to > future generations. There will be no meat on > plates of your children and Darwin will handle the > details. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parabolic_trajectory "In astrodynamics or celestial mechanics a parabolic trajectory is a Kepler orbit with the eccentricity equal to 1." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler_orbit "In celestial mechanics, a Kepler orbit describes the motion of an orbiting body as an ellipse, parabola, or hyperbola, which forms a two- dimensional orbital plane in three-dimensional space. (A Kepler orbit can also form a straight line.) It considers only the gravitational attraction of two bodies, neglecting perturbations due to gravitational interactions with other objects, atmospheric drag, solar radiation pressure, a non-spherical central body, and so on." What is being described is the pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the bodies. |