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From: mpc755 on 14 Mar 2010 12:48 On Mar 14, 12:43 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > On Mar 14, 11:23 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 14, 3:17 am, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > On Mar 14, 1:19 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 14, 12:54 am, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 13, 10:31 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:> On Mar 13, 7:56 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > What I am referring to in terms of the concept of time is the rate at > > > > > > which a clock ticks is not time. > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_pendulum_clock > > > > > > See the four weights that have mass just like a bullet, > > > > > and the spring that stores energy just like gun powder. > > > > > "However they are difficult to set up and are usually not as accurate > > > > as clocks with ordinary pendulums. One reason is that the oscillation > > > > period of the torsion pendulum changes with temperature due to > > > > temperature-dependent change in elasticity of the spring. The rate of > > > > the clock can be made faster or slower by an adjustment screw > > > > mechanism on the torsion pendulum that moves the weight balls in or > > > > out from the axis." > > > > > Similar to the need to adjust an atomic clock based upon the aether > > > > pressure in which it exists. > > > > No... More like this: > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_oscillator > > > > Torsion pendulumhttp://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/301/lectures/node139.html > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_momentumhttp://en.wikipedia.org/.... > > > > When the winner of a drag race finishes with more fuel > > > than the looser, then time has changed. > > > > Sue... > > > Whatever clock you use will 'tick' based upon the aether pressure in > > which it exists. > > > Since you understand why your battery operated clock physically ticks > > slower (i.e. because it requires a new batter) you understand time has > > not changed. > > > Just because you refuse to understand an atomic clock 'ticks' based > > upon the aether pressure in which it exists does not mean time has > > changed. > > When the winner of a drag race finishes with more fuel > than the looser, then time has changed. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noether%27s_theorem#Applications > > Sue... Maybe the winner simply had a better dragster. You choose to believe when a battery operated clock begins to 'tick' slower time does not change but when an atomic clock 'ticks' slower time does change, why? Why is it because you understand what is physically occurring to the battery operated clock you know time does not change but since you choose to remain ignorant as to what occurs to the atomic clock in order to cause it to physically tick slower you choose to believe time does change? Why does ignorance count in physics? Why does choosing to remain ignorant allow you to believe time does change for an atomic clock? Why is it that when the correct explanation as to what occurs physically in nature to a battery operated clock you choose to believe it is correct and time does not change but when the correct explanation as to what occurs physically in nature to an atomic clock you choose not to believe it in order to remain ignorant in order to continue to incorrectly believe time changes?
From: Bruce Richmond on 14 Mar 2010 13:41 On Mar 14, 12:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 14, 12:43 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 14, 11:23 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 14, 3:17 am, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 14, 1:19 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 14, 12:54 am, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 13, 10:31 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:> On Mar 13, 7:56 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > > What I am referring to in terms of the concept of time is the rate at > > > > > > > which a clock ticks is not time. > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_pendulum_clock > > > > > > > See the four weights that have mass just like a bullet, > > > > > > and the spring that stores energy just like gun powder. > > > > > > "However they are difficult to set up and are usually not as accurate > > > > > as clocks with ordinary pendulums. One reason is that the oscillation > > > > > period of the torsion pendulum changes with temperature due to > > > > > temperature-dependent change in elasticity of the spring. The rate of > > > > > the clock can be made faster or slower by an adjustment screw > > > > > mechanism on the torsion pendulum that moves the weight balls in or > > > > > out from the axis." > > > > > > Similar to the need to adjust an atomic clock based upon the aether > > > > > pressure in which it exists. > > > > > No... More like this: > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_oscillator > > > > > Torsion pendulumhttp://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/301/lectures/node139.html > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_momentumhttp://en.wikipedia.org/... > > > > > When the winner of a drag race finishes with more fuel > > > > than the looser, then time has changed. > > > > > Sue... > > > > Whatever clock you use will 'tick' based upon the aether pressure in > > > which it exists. > > > > Since you understand why your battery operated clock physically ticks > > > slower (i.e. because it requires a new batter) you understand time has > > > not changed. > > > > Just because you refuse to understand an atomic clock 'ticks' based > > > upon the aether pressure in which it exists does not mean time has > > > changed. > > > When the winner of a drag race finishes with more fuel > > than the looser, then time has changed. > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noether%27s_theorem#Applications > > > Sue... > > Maybe the winner simply had a better dragster. > > You choose to believe when a battery operated clock begins to 'tick' > slower time does not change but when an atomic clock 'ticks' slower > time does change, why? Why is it because you understand what is > physically occurring to the battery operated clock you know time does > not change but since you choose to remain ignorant as to what occurs > to the atomic clock in order to cause it to physically tick slower you > choose to believe time does change? > > Why does ignorance count in physics? Why does choosing to remain > ignorant allow you to believe time does change for an atomic clock? > > Why is it that when the correct explanation as to what occurs > physically in nature to a battery operated clock you choose to believe > it is correct and time does not change but when the correct > explanation as to what occurs physically in nature to an atomic clock > you choose not to believe it in order to remain ignorant in order to > continue to incorrectly believe time changes?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I offered to show you how a clock can end up with fewer ticks without slowing down. So why are you blathering on about a clock slowing?
From: mpc755 on 14 Mar 2010 14:10 On Mar 14, 1:41 pm, Bruce Richmond <bsr3...(a)my-deja.com> wrote: > On Mar 14, 12:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 14, 12:43 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > On Mar 14, 11:23 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 14, 3:17 am, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 14, 1:19 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 14, 12:54 am, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mar 13, 10:31 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:> On Mar 13, 7:56 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What I am referring to in terms of the concept of time is the rate at > > > > > > > > which a clock ticks is not time. > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_pendulum_clock > > > > > > > > See the four weights that have mass just like a bullet, > > > > > > > and the spring that stores energy just like gun powder. > > > > > > > "However they are difficult to set up and are usually not as accurate > > > > > > as clocks with ordinary pendulums. One reason is that the oscillation > > > > > > period of the torsion pendulum changes with temperature due to > > > > > > temperature-dependent change in elasticity of the spring. The rate of > > > > > > the clock can be made faster or slower by an adjustment screw > > > > > > mechanism on the torsion pendulum that moves the weight balls in or > > > > > > out from the axis." > > > > > > > Similar to the need to adjust an atomic clock based upon the aether > > > > > > pressure in which it exists. > > > > > > No... More like this: > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_oscillator > > > > > > Torsion pendulumhttp://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/301/lectures/node139.html > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_momentumhttp://en.wikipedia.org/... > > > > > > When the winner of a drag race finishes with more fuel > > > > > than the looser, then time has changed. > > > > > > Sue... > > > > > Whatever clock you use will 'tick' based upon the aether pressure in > > > > which it exists. > > > > > Since you understand why your battery operated clock physically ticks > > > > slower (i.e. because it requires a new batter) you understand time has > > > > not changed. > > > > > Just because you refuse to understand an atomic clock 'ticks' based > > > > upon the aether pressure in which it exists does not mean time has > > > > changed. > > > > When the winner of a drag race finishes with more fuel > > > than the looser, then time has changed. > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noether%27s_theorem#Applications > > > > Sue... > > > Maybe the winner simply had a better dragster. > > > You choose to believe when a battery operated clock begins to 'tick' > > slower time does not change but when an atomic clock 'ticks' slower > > time does change, why? Why is it because you understand what is > > physically occurring to the battery operated clock you know time does > > not change but since you choose to remain ignorant as to what occurs > > to the atomic clock in order to cause it to physically tick slower you > > choose to believe time does change? > > > Why does ignorance count in physics? Why does choosing to remain > > ignorant allow you to believe time does change for an atomic clock? > > > Why is it that when the correct explanation as to what occurs > > physically in nature to a battery operated clock you choose to believe > > it is correct and time does not change but when the correct > > explanation as to what occurs physically in nature to an atomic clock > > you choose not to believe it in order to remain ignorant in order to > > continue to incorrectly believe time changes?- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > I offered to show you how a clock can end up with fewer ticks without > slowing down. So why are you blathering on about a clock slowing? I am explaining to you what you get once you realize LET is incomplete. If you prefer to remain ignorant as to what causes gravity and what occurs physically in double slit, 'delayed choice', and 'quantum eraser' experiments that is up to you.
From: mpc755 on 14 Mar 2010 14:21 On Mar 14, 1:41 pm, Bruce Richmond <bsr3...(a)my-deja.com> wrote: > On Mar 14, 12:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 14, 12:43 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > On Mar 14, 11:23 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 14, 3:17 am, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 14, 1:19 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 14, 12:54 am, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mar 13, 10:31 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:> On Mar 13, 7:56 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What I am referring to in terms of the concept of time is the rate at > > > > > > > > which a clock ticks is not time. > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_pendulum_clock > > > > > > > > See the four weights that have mass just like a bullet, > > > > > > > and the spring that stores energy just like gun powder. > > > > > > > "However they are difficult to set up and are usually not as accurate > > > > > > as clocks with ordinary pendulums. One reason is that the oscillation > > > > > > period of the torsion pendulum changes with temperature due to > > > > > > temperature-dependent change in elasticity of the spring. The rate of > > > > > > the clock can be made faster or slower by an adjustment screw > > > > > > mechanism on the torsion pendulum that moves the weight balls in or > > > > > > out from the axis." > > > > > > > Similar to the need to adjust an atomic clock based upon the aether > > > > > > pressure in which it exists. > > > > > > No... More like this: > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_oscillator > > > > > > Torsion pendulumhttp://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/301/lectures/node139.html > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_momentumhttp://en.wikipedia.org/... > > > > > > When the winner of a drag race finishes with more fuel > > > > > than the looser, then time has changed. > > > > > > Sue... > > > > > Whatever clock you use will 'tick' based upon the aether pressure in > > > > which it exists. > > > > > Since you understand why your battery operated clock physically ticks > > > > slower (i.e. because it requires a new batter) you understand time has > > > > not changed. > > > > > Just because you refuse to understand an atomic clock 'ticks' based > > > > upon the aether pressure in which it exists does not mean time has > > > > changed. > > > > When the winner of a drag race finishes with more fuel > > > than the looser, then time has changed. > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noether%27s_theorem#Applications > > > > Sue... > > > Maybe the winner simply had a better dragster. > > > You choose to believe when a battery operated clock begins to 'tick' > > slower time does not change but when an atomic clock 'ticks' slower > > time does change, why? Why is it because you understand what is > > physically occurring to the battery operated clock you know time does > > not change but since you choose to remain ignorant as to what occurs > > to the atomic clock in order to cause it to physically tick slower you > > choose to believe time does change? > > > Why does ignorance count in physics? Why does choosing to remain > > ignorant allow you to believe time does change for an atomic clock? > > > Why is it that when the correct explanation as to what occurs > > physically in nature to a battery operated clock you choose to believe > > it is correct and time does not change but when the correct > > explanation as to what occurs physically in nature to an atomic clock > > you choose not to believe it in order to remain ignorant in order to > > continue to incorrectly believe time changes?- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > I offered to show you how a clock can end up with fewer ticks without > slowing down. So why are you blathering on about a clock slowing? I am explaining to you what you get once you realize LET is incomplete. If you prefer to remain ignorant as to what causes gravity and what occurs physically in double slit, 'delayed choice', and 'quantum eraser' experiments and what occurs physically in nature to cause atomic clocks to tick at different rates that is up to you.
From: BURT on 14 Mar 2010 22:15
On Mar 14, 11:21 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 14, 1:41 pm, Bruce Richmond <bsr3...(a)my-deja.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 14, 12:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 14, 12:43 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 14, 11:23 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 14, 3:17 am, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 14, 1:19 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mar 14, 12:54 am, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mar 13, 10:31 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:> On Mar 13, 7:56 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What I am referring to in terms of the concept of time is the rate at > > > > > > > > > which a clock ticks is not time. > > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_pendulum_clock > > > > > > > > > See the four weights that have mass just like a bullet, > > > > > > > > and the spring that stores energy just like gun powder. > > > > > > > > "However they are difficult to set up and are usually not as accurate > > > > > > > as clocks with ordinary pendulums. One reason is that the oscillation > > > > > > > period of the torsion pendulum changes with temperature due to > > > > > > > temperature-dependent change in elasticity of the spring. The rate of > > > > > > > the clock can be made faster or slower by an adjustment screw > > > > > > > mechanism on the torsion pendulum that moves the weight balls in or > > > > > > > out from the axis." > > > > > > > > Similar to the need to adjust an atomic clock based upon the aether > > > > > > > pressure in which it exists. > > > > > > > No... More like this: > > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_oscillator > > > > > > > Torsion pendulumhttp://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/301/lectures/node139.html > > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_momentumhttp://en.wikipedia..org/... > > > > > > > When the winner of a drag race finishes with more fuel > > > > > > than the looser, then time has changed. > > > > > > > Sue... > > > > > > Whatever clock you use will 'tick' based upon the aether pressure in > > > > > which it exists. > > > > > > Since you understand why your battery operated clock physically ticks > > > > > slower (i.e. because it requires a new batter) you understand time has > > > > > not changed. > > > > > > Just because you refuse to understand an atomic clock 'ticks' based > > > > > upon the aether pressure in which it exists does not mean time has > > > > > changed. > > > > > When the winner of a drag race finishes with more fuel > > > > than the looser, then time has changed. > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noether%27s_theorem#Applications > > > > > Sue... > > > > Maybe the winner simply had a better dragster. > > > > You choose to believe when a battery operated clock begins to 'tick' > > > slower time does not change but when an atomic clock 'ticks' slower > > > time does change, why? Why is it because you understand what is > > > physically occurring to the battery operated clock you know time does > > > not change but since you choose to remain ignorant as to what occurs > > > to the atomic clock in order to cause it to physically tick slower you > > > choose to believe time does change? > > > > Why does ignorance count in physics? Why does choosing to remain > > > ignorant allow you to believe time does change for an atomic clock? > > > > Why is it that when the correct explanation as to what occurs > > > physically in nature to a battery operated clock you choose to believe > > > it is correct and time does not change but when the correct > > > explanation as to what occurs physically in nature to an atomic clock > > > you choose not to believe it in order to remain ignorant in order to > > > continue to incorrectly believe time changes?- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > I offered to show you how a clock can end up with fewer ticks without > > slowing down. So why are you blathering on about a clock slowing? > > I am explaining to you what you get once you realize LET is > incomplete. If you prefer to remain ignorant as to what causes gravity > and what occurs physically in double slit, 'delayed choice', and > 'quantum eraser' experiments and what occurs physically in nature to > cause atomic clocks to tick at different rates that is up to you.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Motion gravity is not aether pressure but slower aether flow over energy due to energy speed changes. Creating original speed by creating motion always creates weight. At its onset motion is detectable. This is motion gravity. God's gravity is his field. Mitch Raemsch |