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From: ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans on 8 Aug 2007 20:15 <kdthrge(a)yahoo.com> wrote > Theoretical science is a joke. Because it is run by dishonest and > frustrated schoolboys who have no attachment to reality and who live > in some narcissistic fantasy of their own intellectual superiority. Is someone collecting these quotes? Just feed them back to Kdthrge whenever he posts.
From: z on 9 Aug 2007 12:01 On Aug 8, 8:02 pm, "ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans" <LynchTheBushTria...(a)AngryMob.com> wrote: > > It's impossible to know how much bias may have been inadvertently > > introduced to the world's temperature data. > > And yet that "bias" has been accurately estimated by climatologists and > removed from the data. I kep thinking of the narrator in "Plan 9 from Outer Space". "Impossible, my friends? But can you prove it didn't happen?" Ya, they got us there, alright. Anything is possible. I'm giving up this science scam and going to clown college.
From: z on 9 Aug 2007 12:11 On Aug 7, 1:18 pm, claudiusd...(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > Science is complex. Find a new hobby. Hey, we can't all be George Bush. Fuzzy math!!!
From: ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans on 11 Aug 2007 00:41 <claudiusdenk(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote > Uh . . . okay. Now show us the calculations that, supposedly, bring us > from this to your conclusion that increases in CO2 will result in > increases in atmospheric temperature. Go ahead, you evasive twit. Show > us. Sure. It's trivial. The ground will change temperature to match the temperature of the air above. Lets start with the ground and air at the same temperature. In this instance the ground will radiate sigma * t**4 watts of power into the air and the air will in turn radiate sigma * t**4 watts to the ground. Now add CO2, and have it reflect some of the IR back toward the surface of the earth, - any amount will do. If (P) is the power of the radiation reflected back down then. Power down = sigma * t**4 + P Since t is also the initial temperature of the ground then the ground continues to emit sigma * t**4 units of power upward into the air. But since now sigma * t**4 + P units are being radiated downward, the surface of the earth warms at a power rate of P. If this continues and P is held fixed then a new equilibrium temperature will be found at t1 where. sigma * t1**4 = sigma *t**4 + P t1 = (t**4 + P/sigma) **1/4 Since P and sigma are both positive, it is therefore proven mathematically that t1 is greater than t and hence the temperature of the earth must warm. Stupid... Stupid... RepubliKKKan denialist fools.
From: ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans on 11 Aug 2007 17:23
<claudiusdenk(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote > Well stated. It's like the holy grail. You can find lots of people that > are sure it does exists but we can find nobody that will tell us why and > how. AGW is a propaganda hoax and the people that believe it are > propaganda victims. Himalayan Glacier Melting Observed From Space Date:March 28, 2007 Satellite-imagery derived glacier surface topographies obtained at intervals of a few years were adjusted and compared. Calculations indicated that 915 km2 of Himalayan glaciers of the test region, Spiti/Lahaul (Himachal Pradesh, India) thinned by an annual average of 0.85 m between 1999 and 2004. The technique is still experimental, but it has been validated in the Alps and could prove highly effective for watching over all the Himalayan glacier systems. However, the procedure for achieving a reliable estimate must overcome a number of sources of error and approximation inherent in satellite-based observations. The researchers started by retrieving satellite data for two periods, 2000 and 2004. A digital field model was extracted for each of them, representing the topography of a ground reference point in digital form and therefore usable in computerized processing. The earliest topography of the area studied was provided by NASA which observed 80% of the Earth's surface during the Shuttle Radar Topographic Mission of February 2000. Then, in November 2004, two 2.5 m resolution images of the same area taken at two different angles were acquired especially by the French satellite Spot5 in the framework of an ISIS (CNES) project. Comparison of these two images has helped build a field model, a Digital Elevation Model (DEM), by stereoscopic photogrammetric techniques . The DEM model reveals that NASA radar data underestimate values at high altitudes and overestimate them at lower altitudes. And the Spot satellite produces an uncertainty of +/- 25 m in the horizontal positioning of images. Moreover, as the authorities of the major Himalayan countries (India, Pakistan, China) do not permit public access to detailed topographic maps or aerial photographs of these sensitive cross-border regions, no reference is available for satellite observation error assessment and correction. It is therefore by comparing the SRTM and SPOT5 topographies using stable non-glaciated areas around glaciers that researchers have been able to adjust for the deviations and superimpose the two digital field models. These comparisons gave the bases for a map of glacier elevation (and hence thickness) variations for altitude intervals of 100 m over the period 2000-2004. The results show clear regression of the large glaciers whose terminal tongues reach the lowest levels (about 4000 m) with a thinning of 8 to 10 m below 4400 m. Such loss is 4 to 7 m between 4400 and 5000 m, passing to 2 m above 5000 m. The satellite image evaluation yields an average mass balance of --0.7 to --0.85 m/a water equivalent for the 915 km2 of glaciers surveyed, a total mass loss of 3.9 km3 of water in 5 years. In order to check these results and validate the procedure, the satellite-derived results were compared with the mass balance for the small glacier Chhota Shigri (15 km2) determined from the field measurements and surveys, performed between 2002 and 2004 by the Great Ice research unit and its Indian partners. The mass balance determined from these field data and that calculated from satellite data agree. For both evaluation methods, Chhota Shigri glacier appears to have lost an average of a little over 1 m of ice per year. These results are in line with global estimates for glacier made for the period between 2001 and 2004. The approach is therefore being extended to other areas of the Himalaya in order to gain more information on the still poorly known changes taking place in the region's glaciers, which are a water resource on which tens of millions of people depend. Reference: Berthier Etienne, Arnaud Yves, Kumar Rajesh, Ahmad Sarfaraz, Wagnon Patrick, Chevallier Pierre - Remote sensing estimates of glacier mass balances in the Himachal Pradesh (Western Himalaya, India), Remote Sensing of the Environment. DOI : 10.1016/j.rse.2006.11.017 Note: This story has been adapted from a news release issued by Institut de Recherche Pour le D�veloppement. |