From: spudnik on
sorry, but i eschew much of the nettiqurtte ideals,
exceroting the absolute minimum for *some* evocation
of the replied-to stuff. the key is
to actually include referenets im *my* reply, instead
of treating exactly as a conversation. OK, so, may be
I spend too much time editing the ****.

> Many 'new' users of usenet arrive via google and are ignorant of the fact
> that usenet groups predate, and are distinct from google.

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From: spudnik on
on the other hand, it seems that
MPC# nodified his postings, for the worse,
by repeating teh exact same drivel, over-and-over,
as his "reply" to any change in teh argument; oh, well!

thus:
sorry, but i eschew much of the nettiqurtte ideals,
exceroting the absolute minimum for *some* evocation
of the replied-to stuff. the key is
to actually include referenets im *my* reply, instead
of treating exactly as a conversation. OK, so, may be
I spend too much time editing the ****.

--Light: A History!
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http://white-smoke.wetpaint.com
From: mpc755 on
On Apr 7, 2:03 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> on the other hand, it seems that
> MPC# nodified his postings, for the worse,
> by repeating teh exact same drivel, over-and-over,
> as his "reply" to any change in teh argument; oh, well!
>

Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
Aether is displaced by matter.
Displacement creates pressure.
Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter.

A C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). While the C-60 molecule is in the
slit(s) detectors are placed at the exits to the slits. When there are
detectors at the exits to the slits the C-60 molecule is always
detected exiting a single slit. If the detectors are placed and
removed from the exits to the slits while the C-60 molecule is in the
slit(s) the C-60 molecule creates an interference pattern.

Explain how this is possible without aether.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_de_Broglie

"This research culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that
any moving particle or object had an associated wave."

'Interpretation of quantum mechanics
by the double solution theory
Louis de BROGLIE'
http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf

"I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the
wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case
of an external field acting on the particle."

"This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present
theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave
where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite
natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always
be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is
located."

de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave
and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of
the wave.

In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment
the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and
exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits.

In AD, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave.
The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit while the
associated aether displacement wave enters and exits the available
slits. The displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the
slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting
the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether
displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and there is no
interference.
From: BURT on
On Apr 7, 6:42 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 7, 2:03 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > on the other hand, it seems that
> > MPC# nodified his postings, for the worse,
> > by repeating teh exact same drivel, over-and-over,
> > as his "reply" to any change in teh argument; oh, well!
>
> Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
> Aether is displaced by matter.
> Displacement creates pressure.
> Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter.
>
> A C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). While the C-60 molecule is in the
> slit(s) detectors are placed at the exits to the slits. When there are
> detectors at the exits to the slits the C-60 molecule is always
> detected exiting a single slit. If the detectors are placed and
> removed from the exits to the slits while the C-60 molecule is in the
> slit(s) the C-60 molecule creates an interference pattern.
>
> Explain how this is possible without aether.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_de_Broglie
>
> "This research culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that
> any moving particle or object had an associated wave."
>
> 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics
> by the double solution theory
> Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf
>
> "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the
> wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case
> of an external field acting on the particle."
>
> "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present
> theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave
> where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite
> natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always
> be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is
> located."
>
> de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave
> and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of
> the wave.
>
> In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment
> the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and
> exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits.
>
> In AD, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave.
> The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit while the
> associated aether displacement wave enters and exits the available
> slits. The displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the
> slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting
> the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether
> displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and there is no
> interference.

The atom's aether waves have a spherical form and the C60 molecule has
largest spherical waves. Atom's waves are in the center the largest
aether wave form. There are 3 levels of wave. We can only measure the
largest because only it can go through the two slits at once. The
others are much too small.


Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on
On Apr 8, 1:20 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 7, 6:42 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 7, 2:03 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > on the other hand, it seems that
> > > MPC# nodified his postings, for the worse,
> > > by repeating teh exact same drivel, over-and-over,
> > > as his "reply" to any change in teh argument; oh, well!
>
> > Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
> > Aether is displaced by matter.
> > Displacement creates pressure.
> > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter.
>
> > A C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). While the C-60 molecule is in the
> > slit(s) detectors are placed at the exits to the slits. When there are
> > detectors at the exits to the slits the C-60 molecule is always
> > detected exiting a single slit. If the detectors are placed and
> > removed from the exits to the slits while the C-60 molecule is in the
> > slit(s) the C-60 molecule creates an interference pattern.
>
> > Explain how this is possible without aether.
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_de_Broglie
>
> > "This research culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that
> > any moving particle or object had an associated wave."
>
> > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics
> > by the double solution theory
> > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf
>
> > "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the
> > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case
> > of an external field acting on the particle."
>
> > "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present
> > theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave
> > where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite
> > natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always
> > be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is
> > located."
>
> > de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave
> > and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of
> > the wave.
>
> > In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment
> > the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and
> > exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits.
>
> > In AD, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave.
> > The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit while the
> > associated aether displacement wave enters and exits the available
> > slits. The displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the
> > slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting
> > the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether
> > displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and there is no
> > interference.
>
> The atom's aether waves have a spherical form and the C60 molecule has
> largest spherical waves. Atom's waves are in the center the largest
> aether wave form. There are 3 levels of wave. We can only measure the
> largest because only it can go through the two slits at once. The
> others are much too small.
>
> Mitch Raemsch

'Interpretation of quantum mechanics
by the double solution theory
Louis de BROGLIE'
http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf

"This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present
theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave
where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite
natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always
be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is
located."

The 'particle' occupies a very small region of the aether wave. This
very small region of the aether wave is where the amplitude is very
large.
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