Aether Displacement
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From: BURT on 3 Apr 2010 21:13 The universe is of immutable substances not a single aether substance alone. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 3 Apr 2010 21:49 On Apr 3, 9:13 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > The universe is of immutable substances not a single aether substance > alone. > > Mitch Raemsch Aether and matter are different states of the same material. Matter is compressed aether and aether is uncompressed matter. 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. EINSTEIN' http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether and matter is energy. My preferred concept of a photon is as a directed/pointed wave which is detected as a quantum of matter. When distinguishing Aether Displacement from the Copenhagen interpretation of QM the difference under discussion should be the physical aether wave vs. the wave-function. de Broglie said it correctly, and so did the Editor. 'LOUIS DE BROGLIE The wave nature of the electron Nobel Lecture, December 12, 1929' http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates//1929/broglie-lecture.pdf "I must restrict myself to the assertion that when an observation is carried out enabling the localization of the corpuscle, the observer is invariably induced to assign to the corpuscle a position in the interior of the wave and the probability of it being at a particular point M of the wave is proportional to the square of the amplitude, that is to say the intensity at M." 'To sum up the meaning of wave mechanics it can be stated that: "A wave must be associated with each corpuscle and only the study of the waves propagation will yield information to us on the successive positions of the corpuscle in space". In conventional large-scale mechanical phenomena the anticipated positions lie along a curve which is the trajectory in the conventional meaning of the word.' 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory Louis de BROGLIE' http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf "EDITOR'S Note...But Louis de Broglie, as he explains in the first lines of his article, was a realist, and he could not believe observable physical phenomena to only follow from abstract mathematical wave-functions. Somehow, these latter had to be connected to real waves, at variance with the prevailing Copenhagen interpretation" "When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics [1] I was looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles, of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the physical reality of waves and particles."
From: Raymond Yohros on 3 Apr 2010 21:50 On Apr 3, 5:40 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > acum razor makes of an aether something unesesary. simplify and you will understand that the displacement happens only in matenergy. r.y
From: BURT on 3 Apr 2010 21:52 On Apr 3, 6:49 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 3, 9:13 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > The universe is of immutable substances not a single aether substance > > alone. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > Matter is compressed aether and aether is uncompressed matter. > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. > EINSTEIN'http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > diminishes by L/c2." > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether > and matter is energy. > > My preferred concept of a photon is as a directed/pointed wave which > is detected as a quantum of matter. > > When distinguishing Aether Displacement from the Copenhagen > interpretation of QM the difference under discussion should be the > physical aether wave vs. the wave-function. > > de Broglie said it correctly, and so did the Editor. > > 'LOUIS DE BROGLIE > The wave nature of the electron > Nobel Lecture, December 12, 1929'http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates//1929/broglie-le... > > "I must restrict myself to the assertion that when an observation is > carried out enabling the localization of the corpuscle, the observer > is invariably induced to assign to the corpuscle a position in the > interior of the wave and the probability of it being at a particular > point M of the wave is proportional to the square of the amplitude, > that is to say the intensity at M." > > 'To sum up the meaning of wave mechanics it can be stated that: "A > wave must be associated with each corpuscle and only the study of the > waves propagation will yield information to us on the successive > positions of the corpuscle in space". In conventional large-scale > mechanical phenomena the anticipated positions lie along a curve which > is the trajectory in the conventional meaning of the word.' > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > by the double solution theory > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf > > "EDITOR'S Note...But Louis de Broglie, as he explains in the first > lines of his article, was a realist, and he could not believe > observable physical phenomena to only follow from abstract > mathematical wave-functions. Somehow, these latter had to be connected > to real waves, at variance with the prevailing Copenhagen > interpretation" > > "When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics [1] I was > looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles, > of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in > his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the > physical reality of waves and particles." You are taking sameness to far. There is a much higher principle of togetherness in physics. Light qualifies as Unification but not matter. Immutable elements make up matter but for them is togetherness and not unification. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 3 Apr 2010 21:53
On Apr 3, 9:50 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > On Apr 3, 5:40 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > acum razor makes of an aether something unesesary. > > simplify and you will understand > that the displacement happens > only in matenergy. > > r.y A C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). While the C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed at the exits to the slits. When there are detectors at the exits to the slits the C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit. If the detectors are placed and removed from the exits to the slits while the C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) the C-60 molecule creates an interference pattern. Explain how this is possible without aether. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_de_Broglie "This research culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that any moving particle or object had an associated wave." 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory Louis de BROGLIE' http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case of an external field acting on the particle." "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is located." de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of the wave. In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits. In AD, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit while the associated aether displacement wave enters and exits the available slits. The displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and there is no interference. |