Prev: LHC versus cranks : 1-0
Next: Higgs security
From: mpc755 on 5 Apr 2010 20:53 On Apr 5, 6:34 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Apr 5, 6:41 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 5, 2:22 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 4, 9:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 5, 12:48 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > I only say what I think is important and the truth is broad. > > > > > > Light at the two slits collapses the aether wave not an observer. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > I know this is pointless because you can not help yourself, but your > > > > post has nothing to do with Aether Displacement. > > > > > I know this is pointless because you can not help yourself, but unless > > > > you have a post which is specific to Aether Displacement, please start > > > > your own thread. > > > > > The aether wave associated with the C-60 molecule does not collapse > > > > because of light. Light propagates as a wave. The moving C-60 molecule > > > > has an associated aether displacement wave. The associated aether > > > > displacement wave and the light wave interact. > > > > > The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit in a double > > > > slit experiment. It is the associated aether displacement wave which > > > > enters and exits the available slits. The aether displacement wave > > > > creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction > > > > the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes > > > > decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it > > > > into chop) and there is no interference. > > > > But we are talking about an aether wave. This can collapse. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > A wave collapses when detected. Waves do not cause waves to collapse. > > Light does. > Incorrect. Something other than a wave must physically interact with the aether wave in order to cause it to collapse. The aether wave associated with the C-60 molecule does not collapse because of light. Light propagates as a wave. The moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The associated aether displacement wave and the light wave interact. The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment. It is the associated aether displacement wave which enters and exits the available slits. The aether displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and there is no interference.
From: mpc755 on 5 Apr 2010 21:00 In article <e685bce4-94d2-45ed-9a3c-47f6cf6f3150 @g16g2000vbh.googlegroups.com>, Space998(a)hotmail.com says... > > a-ha, I was correct: > say "half," with respect to the beamsplitters, please (as > I comprehend, they generally split the "photon" > into "two photons" of half the energy, I think > of a different frequency, not amplitude -- although > the "photon" is really more akin to a phonon, > such as the audible "click" of the geiger-counter. the *proviso* > with these experiments is that the waves are highly modified > in the LASER apparatus, so that some folks more easily think > of them as "rocks o'light." > Incorrect. Beam splitters do not cause a photon to 'split' into 'two photons' of half the energy. If you actually read the experiment associated with the experiment which will provide evidence of Aether Displacement you would know this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experimen t "a beta barium borate crystal (labeled as BBO) causes spontaneous parametric down conversion (SPDC), converting the photon (from either slit) into two identical entangled photons with 1/2 the frequency of the original photon." And: "beam splitters (green blocks) are encountered that each have a 50% chance of allowing the idler to pass through and a 50% chance of causing it to be reflected." A C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). While the C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed at the exits to the slits. When there are detectors at the exits to the slits the C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit. If the detectors are placed and removed from the exits to the slits while the C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) the C-60 molecule creates an interference pattern. Explain how this is possible without aether. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_de_Broglie "This research culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that any moving particle or object had an associated wave." 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory Louis de BROGLIE' http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case of an external field acting on the particle." "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is located." de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of the wave. In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits. In AD, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit while the associated aether displacement wave enters and exits the available slits. The displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and there is no interference. Experiments which will provide evidence of Aether Displacement: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experimen t Experiment #1: Instead of having a single beam splitter BSc have two beam splitters BSca and BScb. Have the photons reflected by mirror Ma interact with BSca and have the photons reflected by mirror Mb interact with BScb. Do not combine the red and blue paths. Have additional detectors D1a, D2a, D1b, and D2b. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through BSca be detected at D1a and D2a. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through BScb be detected at D1b and D2b. If you compare the photons detected at D1a and D1b with the photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference pattern. If you compare the photons detected at D2a and D2b with the photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference pattern. What is occurring is all 'up' photons are being detected at one pair of detectors, for example D1a and D1b, and all 'down' photons are being detected at the other pair of detectors, for example D2a and D2b. Interference patterns do not even need to be created in order to 'go back' and determine the interference patterns created at D0. Experiment #2: Alter the experiment. When the downgraded photon pair are created, have each photon interact with its own double slit apparatus. Have detectors at one of the exits for each double slit apparatus. When a photon is detected at one of the exits, in AD, the photon's aether wave still exists and is propagating along the path exiting the other slit. When a photon is not detected at one of the exits, the photon 'particle' along with its associated aether wave exits the other slit. Combine the path the aether wave the detected photon is propagating along with the path of the other photon and its associated aether wave. An interference pattern will still be created. This shows the aether wave of a detected photon still exists and is able to create interference with the aether wave of another photon, altering the direction the photon 'particle' travels.
From: BURT on 5 Apr 2010 21:13 On Apr 5, 5:53 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 5, 6:34 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 5, 6:41 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 5, 2:22 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 4, 9:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 5, 12:48 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I only say what I think is important and the truth is broad. > > > > > > > Light at the two slits collapses the aether wave not an observer. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > I know this is pointless because you can not help yourself, but your > > > > > post has nothing to do with Aether Displacement. > > > > > > I know this is pointless because you can not help yourself, but unless > > > > > you have a post which is specific to Aether Displacement, please start > > > > > your own thread. > > > > > > The aether wave associated with the C-60 molecule does not collapse > > > > > because of light. Light propagates as a wave. The moving C-60 molecule > > > > > has an associated aether displacement wave. The associated aether > > > > > displacement wave and the light wave interact. > > > > > > The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit in a double > > > > > slit experiment. It is the associated aether displacement wave which > > > > > enters and exits the available slits. The aether displacement wave > > > > > creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction > > > > > the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes > > > > > decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it > > > > > into chop) and there is no interference. > > > > > But we are talking about an aether wave. This can collapse. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > A wave collapses when detected. Waves do not cause waves to collapse. > > > Light does. > > Incorrect. Something other than a wave must physically interact with > the aether wave in order to cause it to collapse. Light is the unified form of the universe capable of triggering the collapse of the aether waves into their energy. > > The aether wave associated with the C-60 molecule does not collapse > because of light. Light propagates as a wave. The moving C-60 molecule > has an associated aether displacement wave. The associated aether > displacement wave and the light wave interact. > > The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit in a double > slit experiment. It is the associated aether displacement wave which > enters and exits the available slits. The aether displacement wave > creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction > the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes > decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it > into chop) and there is no interference.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Light field interacts with electric particle's field collapsing their waves keeping them inside of energy. The larger quantum waves collapse when light collapses the smaller subatomic wave. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 5 Apr 2010 21:16 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein' "What is fundamentally new in the ether of the general theory of relativity as opposed to the ether of Lorentz consists in this, that the state of the former is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, which are amenable to law in the form of differential equations; whereas the state of the Lorentzian ether in the absence of electromagnetic fields is conditioned by nothing outside itself, and is everywhere the same. The ether of the general theory of relativity is transmuted conceptually into the ether of Lorentz if we substitute constants for the functions of space which describe the former, disregarding the causes which condition its state." http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html Einstein disregarded the causes which condition its state. The displacement of aether by matter causes its condition.
From: BURT on 5 Apr 2010 21:19
On Apr 5, 6:16 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity > by > Albert Einstein' > > "What is fundamentally new in the ether of the general theory of > relativity as opposed to the ether of Lorentz consists in this, that > the state of the former is at every place determined by connections > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, > which are amenable to law in the form of differential equations; > whereas the state of the Lorentzian ether in the absence of > electromagnetic fields is conditioned by nothing outside itself, and > is everywhere the same. The ether of the general theory of relativity > is transmuted conceptually into the ether of Lorentz if we substitute > constants for the functions of space which describe the former, > disregarding the causes which condition its state."http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html > > Einstein disregarded the causes which condition its state. > > The displacement of aether by matter causes its condition. Space aether is spherical. Mitch Raemsch |