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From: mpc755 on 3 Apr 2010 21:55 On Apr 3, 9:52 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Apr 3, 6:49 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 3, 9:13 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > The universe is of immutable substances not a single aether substance > > > alone. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > > Matter is compressed aether and aether is uncompressed matter. > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. > > EINSTEIN'http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as > > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three > > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether > > and matter is energy. > > > My preferred concept of a photon is as a directed/pointed wave which > > is detected as a quantum of matter. > > > When distinguishing Aether Displacement from the Copenhagen > > interpretation of QM the difference under discussion should be the > > physical aether wave vs. the wave-function. > > > de Broglie said it correctly, and so did the Editor. > > > 'LOUIS DE BROGLIE > > The wave nature of the electron > > Nobel Lecture, December 12, 1929'http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates//1929/broglie-le... > > > "I must restrict myself to the assertion that when an observation is > > carried out enabling the localization of the corpuscle, the observer > > is invariably induced to assign to the corpuscle a position in the > > interior of the wave and the probability of it being at a particular > > point M of the wave is proportional to the square of the amplitude, > > that is to say the intensity at M." > > > 'To sum up the meaning of wave mechanics it can be stated that: "A > > wave must be associated with each corpuscle and only the study of the > > waves propagation will yield information to us on the successive > > positions of the corpuscle in space". In conventional large-scale > > mechanical phenomena the anticipated positions lie along a curve which > > is the trajectory in the conventional meaning of the word.' > > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > > by the double solution theory > > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf > > > "EDITOR'S Note...But Louis de Broglie, as he explains in the first > > lines of his article, was a realist, and he could not believe > > observable physical phenomena to only follow from abstract > > mathematical wave-functions. Somehow, these latter had to be connected > > to real waves, at variance with the prevailing Copenhagen > > interpretation" > > > "When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics [1] I was > > looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles, > > of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in > > his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the > > physical reality of waves and particles." > > You are taking sameness to far. There is a much higher principle of > togetherness in physics. Light qualifies as Unification but not > matter. Immutable elements make up matter but for them is togetherness > and not unification. > > Mitch Raemsch Aether and matter are different states of the same material. Matter is compressed aether and aether is uncompressed matter. 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. EINSTEIN' http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether and matter is energy. My preferred concept of a photon is as a directed/pointed aether wave which is detected as a quantum of matter. When distinguishing Aether Displacement from the Copenhagen interpretation of QM the difference under discussion should be the physical aether wave vs. the wave-function. de Broglie said it correctly, and so did the Editor. 'LOUIS DE BROGLIE The wave nature of the electron Nobel Lecture, December 12, 1929' http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates//1929/broglie-lecture.pdf "I must restrict myself to the assertion that when an observation is carried out enabling the localization of the corpuscle, the observer is invariably induced to assign to the corpuscle a position in the interior of the wave and the probability of it being at a particular point M of the wave is proportional to the square of the amplitude, that is to say the intensity at M." 'To sum up the meaning of wave mechanics it can be stated that: "A wave must be associated with each corpuscle and only the study of the waves propagation will yield information to us on the successive positions of the corpuscle in space". In conventional large-scale mechanical phenomena the anticipated positions lie along a curve which is the trajectory in the conventional meaning of the word.' 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory Louis de BROGLIE' http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf "EDITOR'S Note...But Louis de Broglie, as he explains in the first lines of his article, was a realist, and he could not believe observable physical phenomena to only follow from abstract mathematical wave-functions. Somehow, these latter had to be connected to real waves, at variance with the prevailing Copenhagen interpretation" "When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics [1] I was looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles, of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the physical reality of waves and particles."
From: BURT on 3 Apr 2010 22:07 On Apr 3, 6:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 3, 9:52 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 3, 6:49 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 3, 9:13 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > The universe is of immutable substances not a single aether substance > > > > alone. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > > > Matter is compressed aether and aether is uncompressed matter. > > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. > > > EINSTEIN'http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > > > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as > > > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three > > > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether > > > and matter is energy. > > > > My preferred concept of a photon is as a directed/pointed wave which > > > is detected as a quantum of matter. > > > > When distinguishing Aether Displacement from the Copenhagen > > > interpretation of QM the difference under discussion should be the > > > physical aether wave vs. the wave-function. > > > > de Broglie said it correctly, and so did the Editor. > > > > 'LOUIS DE BROGLIE > > > The wave nature of the electron > > > Nobel Lecture, December 12, 1929'http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates//1929/broglie-le... > > > > "I must restrict myself to the assertion that when an observation is > > > carried out enabling the localization of the corpuscle, the observer > > > is invariably induced to assign to the corpuscle a position in the > > > interior of the wave and the probability of it being at a particular > > > point M of the wave is proportional to the square of the amplitude, > > > that is to say the intensity at M." > > > > 'To sum up the meaning of wave mechanics it can be stated that: "A > > > wave must be associated with each corpuscle and only the study of the > > > waves propagation will yield information to us on the successive > > > positions of the corpuscle in space". In conventional large-scale > > > mechanical phenomena the anticipated positions lie along a curve which > > > is the trajectory in the conventional meaning of the word.' > > > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > > > by the double solution theory > > > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001..pdf > > > > "EDITOR'S Note...But Louis de Broglie, as he explains in the first > > > lines of his article, was a realist, and he could not believe > > > observable physical phenomena to only follow from abstract > > > mathematical wave-functions. Somehow, these latter had to be connected > > > to real waves, at variance with the prevailing Copenhagen > > > interpretation" > > > > "When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics [1] I was > > > looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles, > > > of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in > > > his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the > > > physical reality of waves and particles." > > > You are taking sameness to far. There is a much higher principle of > > togetherness in physics. Light qualifies as Unification but not > > matter. Immutable elements make up matter but for them is togetherness > > and not unification. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > Matter is compressed aether and aether is uncompressed matter. > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. > EINSTEIN'http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > diminishes by L/c2." > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether > and matter is energy. > > My preferred concept of a photon is as a directed/pointed aether wave > which is detected as a quantum of matter. > > When distinguishing Aether Displacement from the Copenhagen > interpretation of QM the difference under discussion should be the > physical aether wave vs. the wave-function. > > de Broglie said it correctly, and so did the Editor. > > 'LOUIS DE BROGLIE > The wave nature of the electron > Nobel Lecture, December 12, 1929'http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates//1929/broglie-le... > > "I must restrict myself to the assertion that when an observation is > carried out enabling the localization of the corpuscle, the observer > is invariably induced to assign to the corpuscle a position in the > interior of the wave and the probability of it being at a particular > point M of the wave is proportional to the square of the amplitude, > that is to say the intensity at M." > > 'To sum up the meaning of wave mechanics it can be stated that: "A > wave must be associated with each corpuscle and only the study of the > waves propagation will yield information to us on the successive > positions of the corpuscle in space". In conventional large-scale > mechanical phenomena the anticipated positions lie along a curve which > is the trajectory in the conventional meaning of the word.' > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > by the double solution theory > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf > > "EDITOR'S Note...But Louis de Broglie, as he explains in the first > lines of his article, was a realist, and he could not believe > observable physical phenomena to only follow from abstract > mathematical wave-functions. Somehow, these latter had to be connected > to real waves, at variance with the prevailing Copenhagen > interpretation" > > "When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics [1] I was > looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles, > of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in > his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the > physical reality of waves and particles."- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Immaterial waves in space. Math says matter is sin wave spherical aether form. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 3 Apr 2010 22:09 On Apr 3, 10:07 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > Immaterial waves in space. Math says matter is sin wave spherical > aether form. > > Mitch Raemsch Aether and matter are different states of the same material. Matter is compressed aether and aether is uncompressed matter. 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. EINSTEIN' http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether and matter is energy. My preferred concept of a photon is as a directed/pointed aether wave which is detected as a quantum of matter. When distinguishing Aether Displacement from the Copenhagen interpretation of QM the difference under discussion should be the physical aether wave vs. the wave-function. de Broglie said it correctly, and so did the Editor. 'LOUIS DE BROGLIE The wave nature of the electron Nobel Lecture, December 12, 1929' http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates//1929/broglie-lecture.pdf "I must restrict myself to the assertion that when an observation is carried out enabling the localization of the corpuscle, the observer is invariably induced to assign to the corpuscle a position in the interior of the wave and the probability of it being at a particular point M of the wave is proportional to the square of the amplitude, that is to say the intensity at M." 'To sum up the meaning of wave mechanics it can be stated that: "A wave must be associated with each corpuscle and only the study of the waves propagation will yield information to us on the successive positions of the corpuscle in space". In conventional large-scale mechanical phenomena the anticipated positions lie along a curve which is the trajectory in the conventional meaning of the word.' 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory Louis de BROGLIE' http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf "EDITOR'S Note...But Louis de Broglie, as he explains in the first lines of his article, was a realist, and he could not believe observable physical phenomena to only follow from abstract mathematical wave-functions. Somehow, these latter had to be connected to real waves, at variance with the prevailing Copenhagen interpretation" "When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics [1] I was looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles, of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the physical reality of waves and particles."
From: BURT on 3 Apr 2010 23:11 On Apr 3, 7:09 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 3, 10:07 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > Immaterial waves in space. Math says matter is sin wave spherical > > aether form. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > Matter is compressed aether and aether is uncompressed matter. > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. > EINSTEIN'http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > diminishes by L/c2." > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether > and matter is energy. > > My preferred concept of a photon is as a directed/pointed aether wave > which is detected as a quantum of matter. Aether waves are spherical. > > When distinguishing Aether Displacement from the Copenhagen > interpretation of QM the difference under discussion should be the > physical aether wave vs. the wave-function. > > de Broglie said it correctly, and so did the Editor. > > 'LOUIS DE BROGLIE > The wave nature of the electron > Nobel Lecture, December 12, 1929'http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates//1929/broglie-le... > > "I must restrict myself to the assertion that when an observation is > carried out enabling the localization of the corpuscle, the observer > is invariably induced to assign to the corpuscle a position in the > interior of the wave and the probability of it being at a particular > point M of the wave is proportional to the square of the amplitude, > that is to say the intensity at M." > > 'To sum up the meaning of wave mechanics it can be stated that: "A > wave must be associated with each corpuscle and only the study of the > waves propagation will yield information to us on the successive > positions of the corpuscle in space". In conventional large-scale > mechanical phenomena the anticipated positions lie along a curve which > is the trajectory in the conventional meaning of the word.' > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > by the double solution theory > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf > > "EDITOR'S Note...But Louis de Broglie, as he explains in the first > lines of his article, was a realist, and he could not believe > observable physical phenomena to only follow from abstract > mathematical wave-functions. Somehow, these latter had to be connected > to real waves, at variance with the prevailing Copenhagen > interpretation" > > "When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics [1] I was > looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles, > of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in > his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the > physical reality of waves and particles."
From: mpc755 on 4 Apr 2010 00:30
On Apr 3, 11:11 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > Aether waves are spherical. > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. Matter is compressed aether and aether is uncompressed matter. 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. EINSTEIN' http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether and matter is energy. My preferred concept of a photon is as a directed/pointed aether wave which is detected as a quantum of matter. When distinguishing Aether Displacement from the Copenhagen interpretation of QM the difference under discussion should be the physical aether wave vs. the wave-function. de Broglie said it correctly, and so did the Editor. 'LOUIS DE BROGLIE The wave nature of the electron Nobel Lecture, December 12, 1929' http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates//1929/broglie-le... "I must restrict myself to the assertion that when an observation is carried out enabling the localization of the corpuscle, the observer is invariably induced to assign to the corpuscle a position in the interior of the wave and the probability of it being at a particular point M of the wave is proportional to the square of the amplitude, that is to say the intensity at M." 'To sum up the meaning of wave mechanics it can be stated that: "A wave must be associated with each corpuscle and only the study of the waves propagation will yield information to us on the successive positions of the corpuscle in space". In conventional large-scale mechanical phenomena the anticipated positions lie along a curve which is the trajectory in the conventional meaning of the word.' 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory Louis de BROGLIE' http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf "EDITOR'S Note...But Louis de Broglie, as he explains in the first lines of his article, was a realist, and he could not believe observable physical phenomena to only follow from abstract mathematical wave-functions. Somehow, these latter had to be connected to real waves, at variance with the prevailing Copenhagen interpretation" "When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics [1] I was looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles, of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the physical reality of waves and particles." |