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From: " SNIP HECKLER>" on 4 Jan 2010 18:43 On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 09:55:53 +1300, "Geopelia" <phildoran(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: >>> >>>But do you seriously think that a rather advanced ape (us!) on one little >>>planet of a very small star could possibly be the God that created >>>everything? >>> >> [Hammond] >> This is the kind of question typically asked by people >> hovering between the second and third worlds. a person >> belonging to the first world considers such a question >> ludicrously pathetic. only a person belonging to the Third >> World would think the question is deep and intellectual. a >> person like yourself in the Second World of course thinks >> the question is "erudite" and "profound". > > >[Hammond] >Doesn't that question occur to everyone, whether they ask it or not? I call >it an "obvious" question, nothing profound about it. > > [Hammond] The answer is NO. Let me repeat that for clarity, NO! That question DOES NOT "occur to everyone". Let me repeat that again for clarity: THAT QUESTION DOES NOT "OCCUR TO EVERYONE". It only occurs to people of YOUR INTELLECTUAL CLASS! Which means that it only occurs to people WHO DO NOT KNOW WHAT GOD IS. You belong to an intellectual class that inherently DOES NOT KNOW what God is. On the other hand, the Queen of England belongs to an intellectual class of people that DOES KNOW WHAT GOD IS, and therefore would NEVER ASK SUCH A BANAL AND ABYSMALLY IGNORANT QUESTION. You should really try to be more cognizant of your intellectual station in life madam, with all due respect.
From: George Hammond on 4 Jan 2010 18:47 On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 09:55:53 +1300, "Geopelia" <phildoran(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: >>> >>>But do you seriously think that a rather advanced ape (us!) on one little >>>planet of a very small star could possibly be the God that created >>>everything? >>> >> [Hammond] >> This is the kind of question typically asked by people >> hovering between the second and third worlds. a person >> belonging to the first world considers such a question >> ludicrously pathetic. only a person belonging to the Third >> World would think the question is deep and intellectual. a >> person like yourself in the Second World of course thinks >> the question is "erudite" and "profound". > > >[Hammond] >Doesn't that question occur to everyone, whether they ask it or not? I call >it an "obvious" question, nothing profound about it. > > [Hammond] The answer is NO. Let me repeat that for clarity, NO! That question DOES NOT "occur to everyone". Let me repeat that again for clarity: THAT QUESTION DOES NOT "OCCUR TO EVERYONE". It only occurs to people of YOUR INTELLECTUAL CLASS! Which means that it only occurs to people WHO DO NOT KNOW WHAT GOD IS. You belong to an intellectual class that inherently DOES NOT KNOW what God is. On the other hand, the Queen of England belongs to an intellectual class of people that DOES KNOW WHAT GOD IS, and therefore would NEVER ASK SUCH A BANAL AND ABYSMALLY IGNORANT QUESTION. You should really try to be more cognizant of your intellectual station in life madam, with all due respect. ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 =======================================
From: Geopelia on 4 Jan 2010 21:17 "<SNIP HECKLER>" <.@..com> wrote in message news:5fu4k5djjl9u2dn05gn1675idnq59squla(a)4ax.com... > On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 09:55:53 +1300, "Geopelia" > <phildoran(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: > > >>>> >>>>But do you seriously think that a rather advanced ape (us!) on one >>>>little >>>>planet of a very small star could possibly be the God that created >>>>everything? >>>> >>> [Hammond] >>> This is the kind of question typically asked by people >>> hovering between the second and third worlds. a person >>> belonging to the first world considers such a question >>> ludicrously pathetic. only a person belonging to the Third >>> World would think the question is deep and intellectual. a >>> person like yourself in the Second World of course thinks >>> the question is "erudite" and "profound". >> >> >>[Hammond] >>Doesn't that question occur to everyone, whether they ask it or not? I >>call >>it an "obvious" question, nothing profound about it. >> >> > [Hammond] > The answer is NO. Let me repeat that for clarity, NO! > That question DOES NOT "occur to everyone". > Let me repeat that again for clarity: > > THAT QUESTION DOES NOT "OCCUR TO EVERYONE". > > It only occurs to people of YOUR INTELLECTUAL CLASS! > Which means that it only occurs to people WHO DO NOT KNOW > WHAT GOD IS. You belong to an intellectual class that > inherently DOES NOT KNOW what God is. > On the other hand, the Queen of England belongs to an > intellectual class of people that DOES KNOW WHAT GOD IS, and > therefore would NEVER ASK SUCH A BANAL AND ABYSMALLY > IGNORANT QUESTION. > You should really try to be more cognizant of your > intellectual station in life madam, with all due respect. (Geopelia) Of course I don't know what God is. Here's another silly question "Who does know?" And I think "that question" DOES occur to everyone at some time, but it isn't PC to voice it. Wouldn't more people lose their faith than ever risk saying so? The Queen is Head of the Church of England. The Archbishops would keep her informed, as far as they think they know. But she's the Lord's Anointed, so perhaps has some special knowledge. What is my intellectual class please? Pray tell me.
From: George Hammond on 4 Jan 2010 22:15 On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 15:17:48 +1300, "Geopelia" <phildoran(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: > >(Geopelia) >Of course I don't know what God is. > [Hammond] Glad we agree on that. > > > >Here's another silly question "Who does know?" > > [Hammond] As I susected you're not bothering to read my replies... just posting endless stock-in-trade trolls which you have always thought clever in the past. They are sorely out of date. I told you in my last post who "does know what God is"... an entire class of people belonging to the "First World"..here I'll post it again for you: [Hammond] All of human society is divided into three classes depending on their understanding of God. THE FIRST WORLD: Actually knows what God is and has for thousands of years. they know that God is a perfect man who has no growth deficit and that no such person has ever walked the face of the Earth, so therefore he is the invisible man within us. all of the peculiarities, foibles and idiosyncrasies in people are caused by the 20% of us that is missing, particularly of our brain. the nobility, the aristocracy, the elite and the leadership of world history have always known this andhave transmitted it from generation to generation for thousands of years. The first class talks almost exclusively in metaphorical terms about people, politics, society and history. in other words they talk almost exclusively about "God". THE SECOND WORLD: Consists of professionals, bureaucrats, business people, and most of the middle class; are generally aware of the shortcomings of human awareness due to the vicissitudes of human growth. however they are not explicitly aware that this phenomenon is what people are talking about when they say "God'. the second class talks almost exclusively about "ideas", plans, schemes and activities. THE THIRD WORLD: Consists of people who almost exclusively talk about "facts"... dates, names, events, amounts, prices, times and places etc. These people have an almost totally na�ve idea about God, believing perhaps that is an invisible man living in the sky floating on a cloud etc. As for you Geopelia, you are somewhere in the Second World, as are all people who refer to themselves as "agnostics" or "atheists" or say that they believe in an unknown "higher power" and have literally no realistic comprehension of what the phenomenon of God actually is. > > > >But do you seriously think that a rather advanced ape (us!) on one little >planet of a very small star could possibly be the God that created >everything? > [Hammond] This is the kind of question typically asked by people hovering between the second and third worlds. a person belonging to the first world considers such a question ludicrously pathetic. only a person belonging to the Third World would think the question is deep and intellectual. a person like yourself in the Second World of course thinks the question is "erudite" and "profound". >And I think "that question" DOES occur to everyone at some time, but it >isn't PC to voice it. > > [Hammond] WRONG.... absolutely WRONG. There are mor intellectually advanced class of people who KNOW that such a question is "palpably ignorant. > > >Wouldn't more people lose their faith than ever risk saying so? > > > [Hammond] NO. WRONG. You are simply UNAWARE that there is a gigantic class of people who know more than you do.... heads of state, elected officials, the highly educated, hereditary elite, etc. etc. who actually know what God is. You are apparently unaware that they exist. > > > >The Queen is Head of the Church of England. The Archbishops would keep her >informed, as far as they think they know. But she's the Lord's Anointed, so > perhaps has some special knowledge. > [Hammond] Of course she is the Lord's Anointed... she is smarter, better looking, has better teeth, better health and will doublessly outlive us... to say nothing of the fact that she is decended genetically from a long line of kings, champions and defenders of the faith who prevailed in battle, politics and warfare. To say she is the "Lord's Anointed" is a colossal understatement. She is there for the same reason her ancestors were there..... because they KNOW what God is.... and YOU DON'T. But the supreme irony is that you are NOT EVEN AWARE of that difference.... you probabvly think if they put a cr4own on your head and the keys to Buckingham palace YOU could rule England....... don't be a simpleton! > >What is my intellectual class please? Pray tell me. > [Hammond] As I defined above, you beong to the "SECOND WORLD", whereas the Queen of England belongs to the "FIRST WORLD". she knows what God is, and you DON'T.... and don't ever forget it! ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 =======================================
From: spiritual energy on 4 Jan 2010 22:16
On Jan 5, 2:48 am, Anti Vigilante <antivigila...(a)pyrabang.com> wrote: > On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 09:10:27 -0800, Don Stockbauer wrote: > > God and the Universe are identical entities. > > Pop-psychology bullshit. It's not bullshit at all. There is no evidence for a God which is seperate from the universe. In fact there is no physical evidence for any God at all but that is a different matter. If God is seperate from this universe or exists outside this universe, then he has absolutely no effect on the universe we live in. So if some kind of God exists, he/she/it must be part of this universe. Hence they are identical. |