Can Christian Electronic Designers Design?
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From: D from BC on 29 Mar 2010 21:34 In article <7uqdnYy5_I341CzWnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d(a)supernews.com>, eather(a)tpg.com.au says... > > On 30/03/2010 10:16 AM, D from BC wrote: > > Checked link > > http://www.biblicalconcourse.com/BiblicalWorldviewEngineering.pdf > > huh.. A Christian Engineering Education Conference in 2004 > > > > clipped from article page 3: > > > > 'Redemption was effected by God, when His Son, Jesus the Christ, paid > > the penalty for man?s unrighteous > > actions. This redemption has a two-fold effect on humankind.' > > > > I agree but for different reasons. > > 1) It's a good way of knowing what engineers can detect bullshit. > > Jesus didn't make a sacrifice if he ain't permanently dead on earth and > > in imaginary dimensions. iows ..no resurrection. > > Well that might be true if you exclude the pain of getting beaten for > hours sold, flogged, having big nails driven through your wrists and > feet, the emotional cost of all that plus the betrayal of a close > friend, abandonment by everyone, and total rejection by his nation, > mockery, humiliation, shame and the pain of dying of congestive heart > failure,while naked and splayed out for public view with both shoulders > dislocated. > > Of course if you think that is no great thing you can prove it - I will > bring the hammer and nails, but first we will have to flog most of your > skin off. Sorry .. But Jesus is disqualified in raising an emotion here. This is due to God = Jesus. An all powerful God gets harmed?? This is like kicking superman in the balls.. It doesn't do anything. I'm sure Jesus = God can handle a Mel Gibson style beating while answering prayers and doing miracles on the other side of the globe without blinking. (Note: Doesn't apply to all 38000 christian denominations.) There's no sacrifice.. It's just God putting on a gore show. > > > > > 2) It's a good way of knowing what engineers can detect illogic. > > Christians (not all there's 38000 denominations) have God = Jesus = > > Father = Son = Holy Spirit = Holy Ghost and it's not considered a > > redundancy. > > > > > > It is described as a scared mystery. It is fully accepted that this > appears and indeed is illogical to our way of understanding. Ha! A positive spin on illogic. It's a mystery when 1 = 3. Square circles are a mystery too! A bowl of sleep is a mystery! Love on toast is a mystery! The illogic of God = Son = Father = Holy spirit is not a mystery. It's poo poo. (Note: Doesn't apply to all 38000 christian denominations.) > > Now, don't troll. If the newsgroup is uninteresting post something useful. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: D from BC on 29 Mar 2010 21:49 In article <7uqdnY-5_I1T1CzWnZ2dnUVZ_voAAAAA(a)supernews.com>, eather(a)tpg.com.au says... > > On 30/03/2010 10:33 AM, D from BC wrote: > > In article<4cf2r5l1g72108pfls93vc6h4s2uq6q232(a)4ax.com>, > > jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com says... > >> > >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:35:39 -0700, D from BC > >> <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote: > >> > >>> mmm sseems a little quiet in SED so... > >>> Time for another mega-troll. > >>> > >>> Are Christian beliefs in conflict with good electronics engineering? > >>> How can Christian electronics designers still do a good job with > >>> Christian concepts in their head. > >> > >> I know a couple of seriously Christian electronics designers and > >> programmers who are literally a couple of orders of magnitude better > >> than you are. > >> > >> Some of the best scientists and mathematicians have been Jesuits. > >> Seismology has been called The Jesuit Science. > >> > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jesuit_scientists > >> > > > > I'm sure they all have very intelligent reasons for why they believe in > > Jesus and God and Noah that guy that lived in a fish. > > Maybe you can list what their reasons are. > > > > > > I can, if you are actually interested. Sure.. Do Larkin's intelligent scientists and intelligent engineers and intelligent mathematicians have an intelligent reason for why they believe the story of Jonah (that biblical guy that lived for days in a fish) or Noah or God or Jesus? -- D from BC British Columbia
From: Robert Baer on 30 Mar 2010 11:22 D from BC wrote: > Checked link > http://www.biblicalconcourse.com/BiblicalWorldviewEngineering.pdf > huh.. A Christian Engineering Education Conference in 2004 > > clipped from article page 3: > > 'Redemption was effected by God, when His Son, Jesus the Christ, paid > the penalty for man?s unrighteous > actions. This redemption has a two-fold effect on humankind.' > > I agree but for different reasons. > 1) It's a good way of knowing what engineers can detect bullshit. > Jesus didn't make a sacrifice if he ain't permanently dead on earth and > in imaginary dimensions. iows ..no resurrection. > > 2) It's a good way of knowing what engineers can detect illogic. > Christians (not all there's 38000 denominations) have God = Jesus = > Father = Son = Holy Spirit = Holy Ghost and it's not considered a > redundancy. > > Re: #2, now you know (one reason) why Muslims "dis" Christians...
From: Robert Baer on 30 Mar 2010 11:22 D from BC wrote: > In article <4cf2r5l1g72108pfls93vc6h4s2uq6q232(a)4ax.com>, > jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com says... >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:35:39 -0700, D from BC >> <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote: >> >>> mmm sseems a little quiet in SED so... >>> Time for another mega-troll. >>> >>> Are Christian beliefs in conflict with good electronics engineering? >>> How can Christian electronics designers still do a good job with >>> Christian concepts in their head. >> I know a couple of seriously Christian electronics designers and >> programmers who are literally a couple of orders of magnitude better >> than you are. >> >> Some of the best scientists and mathematicians have been Jesuits. >> Seismology has been called The Jesuit Science. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jesuit_scientists >> > > I'm sure they all have very intelligent reasons for why they believe in > Jesus and God and Noah that guy that lived in a fish. > Maybe you can list what their reasons are. > > *NOT* a fish! Get your facts straight first...
From: RogerN on 29 Mar 2010 22:23
"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message news:4cf2r5l1g72108pfls93vc6h4s2uq6q232(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:35:39 -0700, D from BC > <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote: > >>mmm sseems a little quiet in SED so... >>Time for another mega-troll. >> >>Are Christian beliefs in conflict with good electronics engineering? >>How can Christian electronics designers still do a good job with >>Christian concepts in their head. > > I know a couple of seriously Christian electronics designers and > programmers who are literally a couple of orders of magnitude better > than you are. My pet cat is probably better at electronic design than he is! :-) RogerN <snip> |