From: Robert Baer on 30 Mar 2010 11:27 D from BC wrote: > I saw a stat that BC has the largest % of atheism in Canada. > 11% in BC. > According to Christians(not all 38000 denominations) means that 11% of > BC are certain to burn in hell along with about 66% of the world > population that are non-Christian. > By the numbers, God is more in the business punishing people for > eternity. > Sure.. a few goodies go to heaven but God is mostly into toasting > billions (66% of iirc 8billion) of different faiths and skeptics. > What a nice guy... :P > 1) that is *66.6* percent.. 2) NOT a guy..get your facts straight first (oh, sorry already said that).
From: D from BC on 29 Mar 2010 22:25 Goddess sounds good. If she's the hottest thing in the universe, I might convert and pray for visions. Bikini visions :) I might settle for boobies on a grill cheese. Ref to: http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/WolfFiles/story?id=307227&page=1 'When a partially eaten, 10-year-old grilled cheese sandwich said to bear the image of the Virgin Mary sold for $28,000, you knew it had to be a sign of something, although not necessarily divine. ' -- D from BC British Columbia
From: Robert Baer on 30 Mar 2010 11:29 richard wrote: > D from BC wrote: >> I saw a stat that BC has the largest % of atheism in Canada. >> 11% in BC. >> According to Christians(not all 38000 denominations) means that 11% of >> BC are certain to burn in hell along with about 66% of the world >> population that are non-Christian. >> By the numbers, God is more in the business punishing people for >> eternity. >> Sure.. a few goodies go to heaven but God is mostly into toasting >> billions (66% of iirc 8billion) of different faiths and skeptics. >> What a nice guy... :P >> > > :-) > > Yes, I was taught (by Catholic priests) of "baptism by blood" and > "baptism of desire" and that an uneducated savage would not necessarily > be condemned to an afterlife in the fires of hell for eternity - see > following quote from http://www.stgenesius.com/baptismofblood.html > > "It must also be understood that in Catholic teaching those who are not > baptized and not members of the Church are not necessarily lost or > excluded from heaven: if they do not know or believe in Christ or his > teaching through no fault of their own, but live good lives according to > their understanding, God in his mercy will not exclude them". > > But perhaps other denominations are not so liberal. Maybe Catholics can afford to be liberal since they defy and abuse the first commandment...
From: RogerN on 29 Mar 2010 22:47 "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message news:MPG.261ad925b7509204989716(a)209.197.12.12... > mmm sseems a little quiet in SED so... > Time for another mega-troll. I found some info you might be interested in: Sometimes when in discussion with atheists or people resisting Christianity, or religion in general you will hear the claim that religion has been the cause of the most human suffering and death in the world. Typically, events like the Crusades, the so-called "witch hunts" and the Inquisition will be trotted out as proof. And many Christians will shrink back or will say something like, "Even so, Christianity as it was espoused by Christ is non-violent." Although it is true that Christianity as espoused by Christ was to be spread not by the sword (as Islam is designed), but by the Word, by mere preaching. But why should we allow the atheist to even use the Crusades and such as evidence in their claim that most human suffering and death has been caused by religion. It plainly is not true. What I want to do is offer a detailed listing of human death from the 18th century through the 20th century and see if the claim is true. Yes, we'll also look at the Crusades, the witch hunts and the Inquisition. DEATH TOLLS 18th Century Slave Trade a.. Atlantic slave trade: ca. 5,000,000 transported and 8,100,000 died. b.. Islamic slave trade: ca. 1,300,000 transported and 2,000,000 died. I mean, what else do you expect when according to many evolutionary theories, Africans are considered less than human, as if they are merely one rung up from the apes themselves. It must have been easy for fellow hairless apes to do this to other hairless apes. Seven Years War (1755-63) a.. 1 million, 300,000 French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars (1792-1802) a.. Estimated 3-4 million And these wars were supposed to be about bringing "freedom" to civilized men. War of the Spanish Succession (1701-13) a.. 1 million, 324,300 Yet another non-religious war As we leave the 1700s don't forget all of the many, many other events -- all non-religious where hairless apes killed other hairless apes. On to the 19th century... 19th Century Slave Trade a.. Atlantic slave trade: ca. 1.6M transported and 2.5M deaths. b.. Islamic slave trade: ca. 2M transported and 3M died. Venezuela, power struggles (1830-1903) a.. 1 million Taiping Rebellion (1850-64) a.. 20-30 million dead. Aren't Asians supposed to be some of the most advanced hairless apes according to evolution??? Colonial El Ni�o Famines (1876-1900) a.. 31-61 million American Civil War (1861-65) a.. Over 600,000 Just how "civil" was that war? Paraguay, War of the Triple Alliance (1864-70) a.. Over 1 million or more than 80% of its population Maybe it gets better when we get to the 20th century??? I mean, mankind becomes so much more advanced....well at least advanced at killing each other. a.. WWI (1914-18)= 15 million (half of that is non-military death) and this is a low estimate b.. Russian Civil War (1917-22) = 9 million c.. Soviet Union, Stalin's regime (1924-53) = 20-51 million (the Soviets were decidedly "atheistic", right?) d.. WWII (1937-45) = 55 million (yet another non-religious war) e.. Post-War Expulsion of Germans from East Europe (1945-47) = 2 million, 100,000 f.. Chinese Civil War (1945-49) = 2 million, 500,000 (another not so "civil" war) g.. People's Republic of China, Mao Zedong's regime (1949-1975) = 40 million (again an "atheist" thing) h.. Tibet (1950 et seq.) = 600,000 (China imposing "atheism" on others) i.. Korean War (1950-53) = 2 million, 800,000 j.. North Korea (1948 et seq.) = 1 million, 663,000 (not even warring, just imposing "atheism" on its own people) k.. Rwanda and Burundi (1959-95) = 1 million 350,000 l.. Second Indochina War [including Vietnam] (1960-75) = 3 million, 500,000 m.. Ethiopia (1962-92) = 1 million, 400,000 n.. Afghanistan (1979-2001) = 1 million, 800,000 (Soviets trying to impose "atheism" again) o.. Sudan (1983 et seq.) = 1 million, 900,000 (no more slave trade deaths, so they start killing each other??) p.. Kinshasa Congo (1998 et seq.) = 3 million 800,000 Shall I go on? Just to be fair, how about those "Crusades"??? (which in reality was less about Christianity and more about securing wealth) Certainly that had to be the biggest death toll, since according to atheists, most people have died due to "religions". Or how about the "Witch hunts" or the Inquisition? That should really push up the numbers eh? a.. Crusades (1095-1291) = 1-5 million b.. Witch Hunts (1400-1800) = est 20-100 thousand c.. Spanish Inquisition (1478-1834) = est 32 thousand Wow, I guess the hairless apes have Christians beat when it comes to killing. So you see, the claim that most human suffering has been caused by religion, is just plain false. Don't let anyone use this argument ever again. sources: http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/wars18c.htm http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/wars19c.htm http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat2.htm http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat0.htm
From: D from BC on 29 Mar 2010 23:02
In article <81d0cnF6boU1(a)mid.individual.net>, invalid(a)invalid.invalid says... > > D from BC wrote: > > In article <4cf2r5l1g72108pfls93vc6h4s2uq6q232(a)4ax.com>, > > jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com says... > >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:35:39 -0700, D from BC > >> <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote: > >> > >>> mmm sseems a little quiet in SED so... > >>> Time for another mega-troll. > >>> > >>> Are Christian beliefs in conflict with good electronics engineering? > >>> How can Christian electronics designers still do a good job with > >>> Christian concepts in their head. > >> I know a couple of seriously Christian electronics designers and > >> programmers who are literally a couple of orders of magnitude better > >> than you are. > >> > >> Some of the best scientists and mathematicians have been Jesuits. > > > I have had the same experience. And no, I went to a public highschool > and I am not a Jesuit so this is a fairly unbiased opinion. I made that > observation way before I found back to church. > > > >> Seismology has been called The Jesuit Science. > >> > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jesuit_scientists > >> > > > > I'm sure they all have very intelligent reasons for why they believe in > > Jesus and God and Noah that guy that lived in a fish. > > > Ahm, the guy in the fish was Jonah :-) > > > > Maybe you can list what their reasons are. > > > > My reason is very simple: Christian faith. It only works for people who > believe in what the bible teaches, otherwise it won't work. Does it 'work' by making people feel happy that by believing in Jesus they avoid being punished in hell forever. If I got this right... The reason why you believe in God is because it works for those that believe in God. uhh.. That's too ambiguous for me.. I'm understanding that as: The reason why you believe in God is because others believe in God. Correct? -- D from BC British Columbia |