From: AZ Nomad on
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:19:52 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote:
>In article <W5adnd3RF-12wizWnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d(a)posted.localnet>,
>robertbaer(a)localnet.com says...
>>
>> D from BC wrote:
>> > Checked link
>> > http://www.biblicalconcourse.com/BiblicalWorldviewEngineering.pdf
>> > huh.. A Christian Engineering Education Conference in 2004
>> >
>> > clipped from article page 3:
>> >
>> > 'Redemption was effected by God, when His Son, Jesus the Christ, paid
>> > the penalty for man?s unrighteous
>> > actions. This redemption has a two-fold effect on humankind.'
>> >
>> > I agree but for different reasons.
>> > 1) It's a good way of knowing what engineers can detect bullshit.
>> > Jesus didn't make a sacrifice if he ain't permanently dead on earth and
>> > in imaginary dimensions. iows ..no resurrection.
>> >
>> > 2) It's a good way of knowing what engineers can detect illogic.
>> > Christians (not all there's 38000 denominations) have God = Jesus =
>> > Father = Son = Holy Spirit = Holy Ghost and it's not considered a
>> > redundancy.
>> >
>> >
>> Re: #2, now you know (one reason) why Muslims "dis" Christians...

>I'm not familiar with the Muslims.. Is that the peaceful religion
>where killing in the name of God is rewarded by God?

Yeah, just like all the other religions. Difference is that most
islamic sects haven't embraced modern morality and moved beyond their
codified bronze age belief structure.
From: WarmUnderbelly on
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:44:31 -0500, AZ Nomad
<aznomad.3(a)PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:19:52 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote:
>>In article <W5adnd3RF-12wizWnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d(a)posted.localnet>,
>>robertbaer(a)localnet.com says...
>>>
>>> D from BC wrote:
>>> > Checked link
>>> > http://www.biblicalconcourse.com/BiblicalWorldviewEngineering.pdf
>>> > huh.. A Christian Engineering Education Conference in 2004
>>> >
>>> > clipped from article page 3:
>>> >
>>> > 'Redemption was effected by God, when His Son, Jesus the Christ, paid
>>> > the penalty for man?s unrighteous
>>> > actions. This redemption has a two-fold effect on humankind.'
>>> >
>>> > I agree but for different reasons.
>>> > 1) It's a good way of knowing what engineers can detect bullshit.
>>> > Jesus didn't make a sacrifice if he ain't permanently dead on earth and
>>> > in imaginary dimensions. iows ..no resurrection.
>>> >
>>> > 2) It's a good way of knowing what engineers can detect illogic.
>>> > Christians (not all there's 38000 denominations) have God = Jesus =
>>> > Father = Son = Holy Spirit = Holy Ghost and it's not considered a
>>> > redundancy.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> Re: #2, now you know (one reason) why Muslims "dis" Christians...
>
>>I'm not familiar with the Muslims.. Is that the peaceful religion
>>where killing in the name of God is rewarded by God?
>
>Yeah, just like all the other religions. Difference is that most
>islamic sects haven't embraced modern morality and moved beyond their
>codified bronze age belief structure.


Christ, have them teach the extremist idiots that sabers and self
sacrifice solves nothing.
From: D from BC on
So the reason why you have faith in God is because you use faith for
other things?
Example. You have faith you're not going to die tomorrow or the roof is
not going to cave in. Since you have faith in those things then it gives
you the go ahead to have faith in God.
In this case you should have faith in gremlins, lochness monsters,
vampires and leprechauns too because those things are as improbable as
you dieing tomorrow or your roof caving in.

And the other reason why you have faith in God is because it feels
right.
I suppose that's like the gambler that feels every bet feels like the
right bet yet keeps losing.
I do wonder if the hijackers that flew into the world trade center had a
good feeling.
Did they feel good about what they were doing. Nevermind that it makes
sense or not..it just feels good.

So the reason why you believe in God is because it feels good and many
other things require faith.

I'll illustrate using emotion as a reason.
The reason why my circuit is the best is because I feel good.
Convinced that I have the best circuit?

I'll illustrate using the concept that many things require faith which
justifies the use of faith.
The reason why my circuit is the best is because I have faith.
Convinced I have the best circuit?


--
D from BC
British Columbia

From: D from BC on
In article <slrnhr2vcd.h35.aznomad.3(a)ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>,
aznomad.3(a)PremoveOBthisOX.COM says...
>
> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:45:38 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote:
> >Are you saying that death by Spanish Inquisition, Crusades and witch
> >hunts were ok because there's so much more death throughout history?
>
> >Do you realize the reasoning you're using can be used to tone down any
> >atrocity.
>
> There is no behavior so bizzare, so heinous or nasty that it can't
> be rationalized in the mind of a believer.

I do credit Christians for coming up with many creative arguments that
are like scrapings from the bottom of the barrel.

--
D from BC
British Columbia
From: Bill Sloman on
On Mar 30, 5:40 am, "David L. Jones" <altz...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> D from BC wrote:
> > mmm sseems a little quiet in SED so...
> > Time for another mega-troll.
>
> > Are Christian beliefs in conflict with good electronics engineering?
>
> There appears to be no evidence that delusion and electronics design ability
> are mutually exclusive.

Jim Thompson believes in the Republicans. That's pretty much the same
level of silliness.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen