From: D from BC on
In article <fjeer5ph1mpb639albo5u966t6pkr9m7ec(a)4ax.com>,
jfields(a)austininstruments.com says...
>
> On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 15:05:07 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com>
> wrote:
>
> >The best miracle is something impossible happening.
> >
> >How about an amputees legs growing back?
> >No one has claimed new legs or arms..
> >
> >It's not a miracle when someone pops two aspirins and the headache goes
> >away.
> >It's not a miracle when someone recovers from cancer.
> >It's not a miracle when someone wins the lottery.
> >It's not a miracle when someone wins the lottery on their wedding day.
> >The about list is probable but in declining probability.
> >
> >I could be caught saying it's a miracle we're not dead yet from another
> >asteroid collision.
> >But here I try to make a mockery of the word miracle.
>
> ---
> Of course.
>
> If you don't understand it, deny its existence and ridicule it.
>
> Perhaps you should start here:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle
>
> JF

Miracle = supernatural at work

If snakes grew out of your head, it would be a miracle!

It's a miracle a magnetar hasn't blown off the earths atmosphere!

Isn't everything a miracle? If so, the word is meaningless.

In culture, it's popular to assign a miracle when God is blamed for a
good thing..
God's actions are miracles...
But what about when God's action is not positive.
It's a miracle you have cancer?

The word miracle is meaningless. There is only probability.



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D from BC
British Columbia
From: D from BC on

About misunderstanding the bible...

All the bad stuff in the bible has excuses and all the good stuff has no
excuses.

Here's some wacky excuses I've heard for slavery.. (From various
sources.)

1) It was a loving slavery.
2) God let slavery because it stimulated the economy.
3) It was volunteer slavery and it improved the lives of the
impoverished.
4) Slavery was considered a sin but Christians still did it (along with
murder, theft and other bad behavior) due to free will.
5) Slavery was a primitive form of employee. It just needed some
evolution time.
6) For captured enemy, slavery was a better alternative to death.

Slavery in the bible makes the bible look bad no matter who wrote it and
no matter how well dressed up.
Christianity has been ineffective at abolishing slavery for hundreds of
years.

About Atheism...
Atheism is silly in that it is a position of what a person is not.
When an atheist engineer wakes up in the morning, he doesn't tell
himself 'I'm not a Christian'.
There's so many other things that an atheist engineer is not.
An atheist engineer may also not be a dentist or not be an astronaut or
not be a doctor..

You're NOT a ballet dancer and that's because you don't have the
knowledge to BELIEVE you are a ballet dancer. It's comes off as silly to
think of all the things you are not.

About Religion and Engineering...
No Christian engineer applies magical Christian concepts in engineering.
I hope not. Better not!
Ex. Pray the O rings don't fail on the space shuttle.
No! Shouldn't be praying..That means lack of certainty. It's better to
know and not even think for a second about praying.
There should be no reliance on the supernatural. Counting on the
supernatural will lead to failure.

Christians have to believe the magic stuff in the bible is real.
However, the magic Christian stuff (healings, resurrection, talking
snakes) is the wrong blueprint for reality.

If you believed the knowledge of ballet dancing, you probably will
interact with the world like a ballet dancer.
If you believe the magic in the bible, you probably would interact with
the world like a magical Christian.


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D from BC
British Columbia
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Can you name at least name one medical treatment in the bible?

Millions of people in biblical times needlessly suffered from lack of
medical knowledge.

Examples:
Keeping a wound clean of bacteria.
Not to breath the air near someone coughing from tuberculosis.
Maggot therapy.
CPR?

How about hygiene?
Brushing teeth?

'And thy LORD say rubith your tooth for he creatith the living unseen.'

Was the all knowledgable God too busy barking orders and showing off
power like a megalomaniac?


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D from BC
British Columbia

From: D from BC on
In article <00ner55k51lm0hp9jn6n8hv45nr92u8fhq(a)4ax.com>,
krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz says...
>
> On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 17:55:34 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <v0ucr5hd57sb5bdb2kiq7go3giq8hot71a(a)4ax.com>,
> >krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz says...
> >>
> >> On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 11:45:03 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >RogerN prays you hit no trees.. :P
> >>
> >> RogerN is a kind Christian and such would be expected. You're none of the
> >> above so the expectations are equally obvious.
> >
> >I suppose you're praying that Larkin doesn't require a miracle on the
> >mountain.
>
> Your supposition is up to you. Though, only an idiot would lose sleep over
> it.

Prayer can mess up your reality..

For example:

Say RogerN doesn't pray that Larkin has a safe ski trip.
And then Larkin has an accident.
Then I'd say that RogerN is to blame.
Larkin had an accident cause RogerN didn't pray.



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D from BC
British Columbia
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I think it's weird for Christian engineers to believe in the magical
things in the bible and not to believe in thinking of magic in
engineering.

'I will now make this dead circuit come alive with the power of prayer!'

'Let's check what God has chosen for the bandwidth.'

'It's a miracle the converter works!'

'It's wasn't me. Jesus channeled through me and I made the ultimate
transistor.'


It's like you have to believe and not believe in magic at the same time.



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D from BC
British Columbia