From: D from BC on
In article <9309cada-b8dc-4f38-aa4c-
6afd99a0415d(a)y14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, bulegoge(a)columbus.rr.com
says...
>
> at one time he claimed that he would not allow a surgeon to operate on
> him if he professed to be a Christian. I assume that he really is not
> that silly in his beliefs he just likes to troll for a few laughs
> here.
>
> Actually, from what I have heard about hate speech laws in Canada, I
> am surprised they have not locked him up yet - Ha Ha!

The credibility of a Christian surgeon drops to the floor when his
religion requires him to believe as a FACT the there was a talking
snake, people back from the dead, a guy that lived in a fish, millions
of carnivores and herbivores on a boat and a 6000 year old earth that
got soaked.

--
D from BC
British Columbia

From: Jon Kirwan on
On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:05:27 +1000, John Tserkezis
<jt(a)techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote:

>Jon Kirwan wrote:
>
>> I simply don't follow your concerns, at all.
>
>> It's very simple. I can _actually_ buy a DS1052E from
>> DealExtreme, delivered, for $404. That's a simple fact.
>> Anyone can go there and look for themselves. And they are in
>> stock, as well.
>
> No, YOU don't follow my reasoning.
>
> I can *actually* buy a blue car from vendor A, but they don't have a
>red car (which I want).
>
> I looked around, and found that vendor B has a red car (which I want)
>however, at double the price.
>
> Therefore, red cars cost double that of blue cars.
>
> This is a bullshit analogy, and I know it.
>
> I'm just trying to make a point. The two cars might cost the exact
>same amount AT THE MANUFACTURER. Once they get to the retailers, all
>bets are off, different retailers mark different products up by
>differing amounts depending on many factors. Some retailers choose not
>to stock a particular model for as many reasons.

I think I gather your point. You didn't think I worded it as
well as I might have. I don't mind the nit picking and if
you feel it helps to nail that down, it's your privilege. We
are talking at cross purposes, though, and your point isn't
of any real interest to me. Might be to others, can't say.

> You could have chosen your words more carefully, such as, "on the open
>market, due to spurious availability, the 1102 costs about double the 1052"
>
> And that would be correct.

How about simply, "The 1102 costs about double the 1052."
I'll stand on that, for now.

Jon
From: RogerN on

"D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.2622f6726632060198978c(a)209.197.12.12...
> In article <9309cada-b8dc-4f38-aa4c-
> 6afd99a0415d(a)y14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, bulegoge(a)columbus.rr.com
> says...
>>
>> at one time he claimed that he would not allow a surgeon to operate on
>> him if he professed to be a Christian. I assume that he really is not
>> that silly in his beliefs he just likes to troll for a few laughs
>> here.
>>
>> Actually, from what I have heard about hate speech laws in Canada, I
>> am surprised they have not locked him up yet - Ha Ha!
>
> The credibility of a Christian surgeon drops to the floor when his
> religion requires him to believe as a FACT the there was a talking
> snake, people back from the dead, a guy that lived in a fish, millions
> of carnivores and herbivores on a boat and a 6000 year old earth that
> got soaked.
>
> --
> D from BC
> British Columbia

Their credibility should drop to you because they believe in God and you
don't. But like you say, if this belief system is wrong it would make
someone a bad engineer. According to all your peers you are a bad engineer
so, according to you, your Atheist belief must be wrong!

RogerN


From: D from BC on
In article <-uOdnRplutFupyTWnZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>,
regor(a)midwest.net says...
>
>
> Read the book, Jesus didn't remove this healing power when he left, the
> believer were able to do the same works. So, in a circle, believers heal in
> Jesus name, and you don't believe the miracles, you claim they are just
> natural healings.

Are you saying that Jesus demonstrated to others that all you need to do
is believe in him (or God) to heal?
He was teaching Christians they don't need doctors???

One of the 38000 Christian denominations is the Jehovah's Witnesses who
prohibit the transfusion of blood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah's_Witnesses_and_blood_transfusions
They get that belief from the bible.

Jehovah's Witness mother dies after refusing blood transfusion.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/nov/05/health.religion

>
> How can you accuse Jesus of showing off his power when you don't believe he
> had any supernatural power? Looks like you keep dodging the answers with
> another question, a moving goal post!
>
> RogerN

What if the Jesus story is real...

Raising the dead and healing a few people was ineffective at spreading a
religion. (33% of globe is Christian)

If Jesus taught a medical procedure that works for all people (no matter
what faith) it would spread and convert people.
Practical knowledge is infectious.
For example: Engineers pass good design ideas to engineers who then in
turn pass it on to other engineers.. Good stuff travels.

'Hey this willow plant remedy from Jesus cured my migraine headache!'
And then they might convert from say Muslin to Christian without ever
meeting Jesus.

Even if real, Jesus is not effective at spreading a religion.

-
D from BC
British Columbia

From: Beryl on
RogerN wrote:
> "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.2622f6726632060198978c(a)209.197.12.12...
>> In article <9309cada-b8dc-4f38-aa4c-
>> 6afd99a0415d(a)y14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, bulegoge(a)columbus.rr.com
>> says...
>>> at one time he claimed that he would not allow a surgeon to operate on
>>> him if he professed to be a Christian. I assume that he really is not
>>> that silly in his beliefs he just likes to troll for a few laughs
>>> here.
>>>
>>> Actually, from what I have heard about hate speech laws in Canada, I
>>> am surprised they have not locked him up yet - Ha Ha!
>> The credibility of a Christian surgeon drops to the floor when his
>> religion requires him to believe as a FACT the there was a talking
>> snake, people back from the dead, a guy that lived in a fish, millions
>> of carnivores and herbivores on a boat and a 6000 year old earth that
>> got soaked.
>>
>> --
>> D from BC
>> British Columbia
>
> Their credibility should drop to you because they believe in God and you
> don't. But like you say, if this belief system is wrong it would make
> someone a bad engineer. According to all your peers you are a bad engineer
> so, according to you, your Atheist belief must be wrong!
>
> RogerN

You've repeated that at least twice now.
Never learned to use Logic, did you?