Can Christian Electronic Designers Design?
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From: D from BC on 5 Apr 2010 14:15 In article <IsqdnfsIObs3wiTWnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, regor(a)midwest.net says... > > "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.2622f6726632060198978c(a)209.197.12.12... > > In article <9309cada-b8dc-4f38-aa4c- > > 6afd99a0415d(a)y14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, bulegoge(a)columbus.rr.com > > says... > >> > >> at one time he claimed that he would not allow a surgeon to operate on > >> him if he professed to be a Christian. I assume that he really is not > >> that silly in his beliefs he just likes to troll for a few laughs > >> here. > >> > >> Actually, from what I have heard about hate speech laws in Canada, I > >> am surprised they have not locked him up yet - Ha Ha! > > > > The credibility of a Christian surgeon drops to the floor when his > > religion requires him to believe as a FACT the there was a talking > > snake, people back from the dead, a guy that lived in a fish, millions > > of carnivores and herbivores on a boat and a 6000 year old earth that > > got soaked. > > > > -- > > D from BC > > British Columbia > > Their credibility should drop to you because they believe in God and you > don't. But like you say, if this belief system is wrong it would make > someone a bad engineer. According to all your peers you are a bad engineer > so, according to you, your Atheist belief must be wrong! > > RogerN Elvis believers keep a look out for Elvis. UFO believers keep a look out for UFO's or watch for aliens that are hiding. Kids that believe in Santa Clause listen for roof noises. Human behavior stems from beliefs. Silly beliefs can lead to silly behavior. Christians believe as FACT that God made humans from dust, a man lived in a fish and a there was a talking snake. If behavior stems from believe then there's the potential for the belief in a talking snake to lead to some wacky behavior. Self induced religious fit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMDCWnclzKs Does a Christian engineer actively look out for Jesus appearing on a grilled cheese sandwich? When a Christian engineer listens to white noise or sees video noise, do they wish to hear or see Jesus? Expecting/wishing/longing or watching for the supernatural is an unnecessary distraction. Stairway to heaven backwards.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek-gipOv6aQ -- D from BC British Columbia
From: D from BC on 5 Apr 2010 14:16 In article <292dnes_W8rBwSTWnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, regor(a)midwest.net says... > > > Almost every claim you make about the Bible is based on one misconception > or/and another. For one thing, there are various degrees of reward in > Heaven and various degrees of punishment in Hell. In the most basic form, <snip> You believe in 'Hell Lite' for just slightly evil people??? In Hell Lite, the beer is warm and the women are fat?? There's 38000 Chrisitian denominations because there's nothing to standardize Christianity. Units of measurement are more standardized than Christianity. The USB connector is more standardized than Christianity. 'In most Christian beliefs, such as the Catholic Church, most Protestant churches (such as the Baptists, Episcopalians, etc), and Greek Orthodox churches, Hell is taught as the final destiny of those who have not been found worthy after they have passed through the great white throne of judgment [13][14], where they will be punished for sin and permanently separated from God after the general resurrection and last judgment. ' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell Do all Christians agree with your various degree punishment concept for hell? btw.. Hell was made by an all loving God. (Would you beat your kids forever?) Even if true, Hell is ridiculous. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: Tim Wescott on 5 Apr 2010 16:59 D from BC wrote: > In article <292dnes_W8rBwSTWnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, > regor(a)midwest.net says... > >> Almost every claim you make about the Bible is based on one misconception >> or/and another. For one thing, there are various degrees of reward in >> Heaven and various degrees of punishment in Hell. In the most basic form, > <snip> > > You believe in 'Hell Lite' for just slightly evil people??? > In Hell Lite, the beer is warm and the women are fat?? > > There's 38000 Chrisitian denominations because there's nothing to > standardize Christianity. > Units of measurement are more standardized than Christianity. > The USB connector is more standardized than Christianity. > > 'In most Christian beliefs, such as the Catholic Church, most Protestant > churches (such as the Baptists, Episcopalians, etc), and Greek Orthodox > churches, Hell is taught as the final destiny of those who have not been > found worthy after they have passed through the great white throne of > judgment [13][14], where they will be punished for sin and permanently > separated from God after the general resurrection and last judgment. ' > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell > > Do all Christians agree with your various degree punishment concept for > hell? > > btw.. Hell was made by an all loving God. > (Would you beat your kids forever?) > > Even if true, Hell is ridiculous. > > Oh hell. -- Tim Wescott Control system and signal processing consulting www.wescottdesign.com
From: John Larkin on 5 Apr 2010 20:29 On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 23:46:37 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman <bill.sloman(a)ieee.org> wrote: >On Apr 3, 3:05�am, John Larkin ><jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:33:46 -0700 (PDT),Bill Sloman >> >> >> >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote: >> >On Mar 31, 5:28�pm, John Larkin >> ><jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> >> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:38:36 -0700 (PDT),Bill Sloman >> >> >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote: >> >> >On Mar 31, 1:47�am, John Larkin >> >> ><jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:06:12 -0700 (PDT),Bill Sloman >> >> >> >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote: >> >> >> >On Mar 30, 4:12�pm, John Larkin >> >> >> ><jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:40:43 +1100, "David L. Jones" >> >> >> >> >> <altz...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >D from BC wrote: >> >> >> >> >> mmm sseems a little quiet in SED so... >> >> >> >> >> Time for another mega-troll. >> >> >> >> >> >> Are Christian beliefs in conflict with good electronics engineering? >> >> >> >> >> >There appears to be no evidence that delusion and electronics design ability >> >> >> >> >are mutually exclusive. >> >> >> >> >> >Dave. >> >> >> >> >> Not as long as you're happy spinning the pcb etch four or five times, >> >> >> >> and shipping a lot of bugs. To get it right the first time, you can't >> >> >> >> lie to yourself about anything. >> >> >> >> >Your opinions about the way the genetic system might work did imply >> >> >> >that you were deceiving yourself pretty thorooughly in that area. >> >> >> >> Genetic science is, if anything, trending in the directions I >> >> >> expected. DNA and its supporting systems is indeed a very >> >> >> sophisticated, nearly intelligent machine, hardly a >> >> >> random-mutation+selection process. Evolution guarantees that it be so. >> >> >> >And you still don't get it. DNA doesn't know anything about itself, >> >> >merely whether the phoneme it has produced is good enough to survive >> >> >and reproduce. All the "sophistication" involves differernt ways of >> >> >doing the random mutation process - in big gene-duplicating chunks >> >> >versus single nuclear polymorphisms. >> >> >> >This is about as far from "intelligent" as one can get. >> >> >> You have no basis for that flat statement. To cling to 19th century >> >> classic Darwinism makes about as much sense as clinging to 18th >> >> century classic physics. >> >> >It's straight-forward system engineering. The fact that you can't see >> >it is a little surprising - we know that you don't know much about >> >anything outside of electronics, but genetics and DNA regularly >> >explained in the semi-popular press. >> >> >> YOU are refusing to be intelligent because you are, for emotional >> >> reasons, refusing to consider possibilities. That's why you don't >> >> design electronics, too. >> >> >Typical Republican thinking. Invent the reality you'd like to beleive >> >in, then claim that's the things really are. >> >> >> You are a creature of emotion pretending to be an intellectual to >> >> appease your ego. That's radically hilarious. >> >> >I don't have to "pretend" �to be an intellectual. The fact that you >> >claim not to recognise one when he's rubs your nose in your own >> >pretensions does say something about your own ego problems. >> >> Geez, what a fathead you are. >> >> >> >> >Settle for the fact that you can design electronic circuits that work, >> >and learn to live with fact that you haven't learned enough about the >> >rest of the world to have useful opinions outside of electronics. >> >> If being an "intellectual" would do to me the damage it has done to >> you, I'll have none of it. > >The 'damage" exixts in your fertile and unrestrained imagination. You >rejected your only - faint - chance to be an intellectual when you >treated your university education as as a source of useful information >about electronics, rather than systematically studying the information >you were exposed to without rejecting the parts that weren't obviously >and immediately relevant to your electronic interests. I'll have you know that I got A's in Beginners Tumbling and Psychology 101, and learned things that have endured my whole life. The more advanced courses were mostly disappointments. Many of the engineering courses were useless, like labs and such. I'd done all that already, and usually better. Signals and Systems was great. Electric Machinery was useful. Physics was great, chemistry awful. I took materials science at 8AM and slept through most of it. > >US engineering courses donn't exactly offer a liberal arts education, >and few graduates emerge with any intellectual depth, but your >approach to education pretty much guaranteed that you'd reject any >opportunity to acquire any knowledge of the wider world. This room is 25 feet long and two walls are solid books from floor to ceiling, mostly non-technical. Lots of literature, history, history of science, sea lore, war, and a bunch of atom bomb stuff. I keep a roughly equal volume of technical books in my office at work. And there's the bookshelf in the kitchen (cookbooks and books about food, stuff like the history of sugar and salt and chocolate) and there's the Mystery+Wodehouse bookshelf upstairs. Since I rarely watch TV, I read a lot. What do you read? > >Your susceptibility to Republican propaganda is a telling example of >how little you managed to learn about critical thinking. Think about getting a job. John
From: RogerN on 5 Apr 2010 20:46
"D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message news:MPG.26233dbffb9953dd98978e(a)209.197.12.12... > In article <IsqdnfsIObs3wiTWnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, > regor(a)midwest.net says... >> >> "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message >> news:MPG.2622f6726632060198978c(a)209.197.12.12... >> > In article <9309cada-b8dc-4f38-aa4c- >> > 6afd99a0415d(a)y14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, bulegoge(a)columbus.rr.com >> > says... >> >> >> >> at one time he claimed that he would not allow a surgeon to operate on >> >> him if he professed to be a Christian. I assume that he really is not >> >> that silly in his beliefs he just likes to troll for a few laughs >> >> here. >> >> >> >> Actually, from what I have heard about hate speech laws in Canada, I >> >> am surprised they have not locked him up yet - Ha Ha! >> > >> > The credibility of a Christian surgeon drops to the floor when his >> > religion requires him to believe as a FACT the there was a talking >> > snake, people back from the dead, a guy that lived in a fish, millions >> > of carnivores and herbivores on a boat and a 6000 year old earth that >> > got soaked. >> > >> > -- >> > D from BC >> > British Columbia >> >> Their credibility should drop to you because they believe in God and you >> don't. But like you say, if this belief system is wrong it would make >> someone a bad engineer. According to all your peers you are a bad >> engineer >> so, according to you, your Atheist belief must be wrong! >> >> RogerN > > Elvis believers keep a look out for Elvis. > UFO believers keep a look out for UFO's or watch for aliens that are > hiding. > Kids that believe in Santa Clause listen for roof noises. > Human behavior stems from beliefs. > Silly beliefs can lead to silly behavior. > Christians believe as FACT that God made humans from dust, What ingredient in a person's body isn't common in dust? > a man lived > in a fish and a there was a talking snake. Talking snake - used car salesman. > If behavior stems from > believe then there's the potential for the belief in a talking snake to > lead to some wacky behavior. > > Self induced religious fit > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMDCWnclzKs > > Does a Christian engineer actively look out for Jesus appearing on a > grilled cheese sandwich? Maybe they are granola Christians, consisting of fruits, flakes, and nuts. > When a Christian engineer listens to white noise or sees video noise, do > they wish to hear or see Jesus? > Expecting/wishing/longing or watching for the supernatural is an > unnecessary distraction. Why would you look for or expect the supernatural? If God wants your attention he knows how to get it. If you are praying and believing for God to do something supernatural then you might be watching for it. > Stairway to heaven backwards.. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek-gipOv6aQ > > > -- > D from BC > British Columbia A lot of this stuff you've posted before, why doesn't Beryl tell you about it? RogerN |