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From: PD on 24 Dec 2008 09:41 On Dec 24, 7:46 am, bjones <ni...(a)4sure.com> wrote: > On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:10:41 -0800 (PST), > > PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >Just because you see examples of those being given, > >oes NOT mean that your submission to the pool deserves > >the same response. If you do not get that kind of > >response, then it is time to examine your own work > >and ask why yours did not get a response when other > >amateurs did get one. > > That's easy - it's because mine is harder to refute. > (See my other post to you re the stonewalling of my > post in the moderated group.) Sorry, but you have no evidence to support that conclusion. That is a purely self-serving rationalization. It is based on the premise that if a post is easy to refute, then it will be refuted rather than ignored. This is a false premise. Being ignored for a weak post is not only completely common, but completely warranted. > > >bjones <ni...(a)4sure.com> wrote in message > >> Can you, PD, tell us why the sliding rod will not > >> (absolutely) synchronize the clocks? > > >You have not given me access to your submitted paper > >where you claim to have fleshed this out in detail. > >Your one-paragraph extraction of a cover letter does > >not draw my attention. > > I did not claim such a thing, and that was not a cover > letter, it was, as I said, a proof of my credibility. > Also, the paragraph was the entire story, as should > have been obvious. Then I think it's clear why it is ignored. Don't you? Perhaps the matter is simple. Rather than posing the matter as a "proof" of absolute synchronization, why don't you instead ask what the laws of physics say about the scenario below? It may be that you just have a weak spot in understanding what relativity says. Very often, the problem is a false dichotomy, where it is believed that the only conceivable choices are (i) or (ii), when in fact what's going on is (iii). > > Here it is again: > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > As shown in the diagram, a rod is at rest relative to the > > x axis of an inertial coordinate system, with the rod's > > end points R1 and R2 coinciding respectively with x axis > > points X1 and X2. > > > R1=======rod======R2 > > X1-----x axis-----X2------------- > > > Let this rod be moved a little to the right, and then slid > > at a steady speed leftward (parallel and adjacent to the x axis) > > until points R1 and X1 once again coincide (in passing). An > > observer who is at rest wrt the x axis, and who is at this > > left-hand R1-X1 event then knows two important facts about the > > rod's other end point R2, viz., he knows that (1) this point > > exists, and he also knows that (2) this point must be either > > coincident with X2 or not. If not, then the rod's intrinsic > > length must have changed; however, if it is coincident, then > > distant simultaneity is not relative because the rod's ends > > could be used to absolutely synchronize clocks at X1 and X2. > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Physically speaking, as was noted above, there are only two > possibilities for the location of the rod point R2, namely, > (i) it is AT the clock, or (ii) it is NOT at the clock. > > Which one do you choose? > > I, PD, choose (i) ______ > > I. PD, choose (ii) ______ > > /bjones/
From: Strich.9 on 24 Dec 2008 09:47 On Dec 24, 9:36 am, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Why? Nobel prizes are specifically given to those who buck the status quo... > > > Another delusion of yours? How many Nobels did Tesla get? > > I didn't say everyone who bucks the status quo gets a Nobel... PD BACKPEDALS... > > > It seems you don't have enough fiscal sense to carry an ATM card... > > You are all talk PD. Let me do this poker move: I'll bet all my money... > > Don't tell me you are folding? > No interest. PD FOLDS... > > > Is someone preparing your meals for you? > > > Most of the time. I take it you don't go out much. I like Japanese > > food. You don't even need to use your left hand. In the more > > expensive places, you don't even need to use your hands :) PD FOLDS... again...
From: PD on 24 Dec 2008 09:56 On Dec 24, 8:47 am, "Strich.9" <strich.9...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 24, 9:36 am, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Why? Nobel prizes are specifically given to those who buck the status quo... > > > > Another delusion of yours? How many Nobels did Tesla get? > > > I didn't say everyone who bucks the status quo gets a Nobel... > > PD BACKPEDALS... > > > > > It seems you don't have enough fiscal sense to carry an ATM card... > > > You are all talk PD. Let me do this poker move: I'll bet all my money... > > > Don't tell me you are folding? > > No interest. > > PD FOLDS... > > > > > Is someone preparing your meals for you? > > > > Most of the time. I take it you don't go out much. I like Japanese > > > food. You don't even need to use your left hand. In the more > > > expensive places, you don't even need to use your hands :) > > PD FOLDS... again... You just keep telling yourself that. The beautiful thing about you, Strich9, is that I don't have to do anything to discredit you. You do that fine all by yourself. I'm just a spectator to the bonfire you've set around your feet, and I'm going "Ooooh. Aaaaah." But by all means, stand in your spectacular display and declare victory. Ooooh. Aaaah. PD
From: Strich.9 on 24 Dec 2008 10:53 On Dec 24, 9:56 am, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 24, 8:47 am, "Strich.9" <strich.9...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Dec 24, 9:36 am, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Why? Nobel prizes are specifically given to those who buck the status quo... > > > > > Another delusion of yours? How many Nobels did Tesla get? > > > > I didn't say everyone who bucks the status quo gets a Nobel... > > > PD BACKPEDALS... > > > > > > It seems you don't have enough fiscal sense to carry an ATM card.... > > > > You are all talk PD. Let me do this poker move: I'll bet all my money... > > > > Don't tell me you are folding? > > > No interest. > > > PD FOLDS... > > > > > > Is someone preparing your meals for you? > > > > > Most of the time. I take it you don't go out much. I like Japanese > > > > food. You don't even need to use your left hand. In the more > > > > expensive places, you don't even need to use your hands :) > > > PD FOLDS... again... > > You just keep telling yourself that. > The beautiful thing about you, Strich9, is that I don't have to do > anything to discredit you. You do that fine all by yourself. I'm just > a spectator to the bonfire you've set around your feet, and I'm going > "Ooooh. Aaaaah." But by all means, stand in your spectacular display > and declare victory. > > Ooooh. > > Aaaah. > > PD- Don't talk too much after you fold. Nobody likes whiny excuses...
From: bjones on 24 Dec 2008 13:25
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