From: Duncan Kennedy on 1 Jul 2010 06:08 David Kennedy <davidkennedy(a)nospamherethankyou.invalid> wrote: > Hugh Browton wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:03:51 +0100, Bella Jones wrote > > (in article<1jkx8o9.tm8snu1fjz7e1N%me9(a)privacy.net>): > > > >> Dear good people of ucsm > >> > >> I'm not a big poster here any more, but I do pop in. For months now it's > >> been wall to wall pointless self-referential rows with Rowland. > > > > In defence - no, not only that. > > You are of course right but, as Bella said, it's drowning out anything > useful and, most days, I give up after a few posts. > > > > > But I agree that it makes the place look small minded. > > > > Listen to Bella, fellow-ucsm-ers. > > Well said, Bella. I'm quite new to the group, to Macs and to MacSoup but I've discovered Comd+E to be the most useful function around - even if it wipes something that might be useful in the thread. -- duncank
From: Pd on 1 Jul 2010 09:43 Dr Geoff Hone <gnhone(a)globalnet.co.uk> wrote: > Other forums manage to have some quite heated arguments in a dignified > manner and without any personal abuse. It could happen here - but I > doubt if it will. It used to. But when you have a mad bloke and another bloke who won't "put up that kind of abuse" and quite a few people who still think they can have a rational discussion with the mad bloke, and none of them are wont to use a killfile, you have the current shambles. -- Pd
From: Ben Shimmin on 1 Jul 2010 09:48 Dr Geoff Hone <gnhone(a)globalnet.co.uk>: [...] > Actually Bella, I don't think it is extraordinary. > Several people have posted serious items, with the best of intentions, > only to have Rowland attack them over some trivial point. Maybe they > were in error, maybe not, but when it happens more than once, it will > only be natural for them to point out when Rowland has made an error. > > There is no excuse for some of the intemperate language used, but this > appears on both sides, and I try not to respond to it. When, however, > we get statements that are about as factual as "World War Bomber found > on the Moon", then there are only two options: > Point out the error (and risk the backlash) > Let it pass (and it now becomes a sort of reality on the basis that it > was on the Internet) > > Other forums manage to have some quite heated arguments in a dignified > manner and without any personal abuse. It could happen here - but I > doubt if it will. But this is all just an extension of the `someone's *wrong* on the Internet' thing. Seriously, who cares whether Rowland's right about 16th century canals or whatever the hell it is you're arguing with him about? This is a newsgroup about Macs. Argue about those, please. Or, better, have civil discussions about them and kill-file people who aren't able to. b. -- <bas(a)bas.me.uk> <URL:http://bas.me.uk/> `Zombies are defined by behavior and can be "explained" by many handy shortcuts: the supernatural, radiation, a virus, space visitors, secret weapons, a Harvard education and so on.' -- Roger Ebert
From: bella jonez on 1 Jul 2010 12:14 Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > On 2010-07-01, bella jonez <bellajonez(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote: > >> Bella Jones <me9(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >> > >> > >>OTOH you > >> hardly did much for the image of a Mac user "community" or "clique" > > > to > >> give it its proper name. > >> > > > > Was that directed at me personally? Just wondering! > > I doubt it. It's just Steve holding a mirror up to himself as usual. Again, I'm just baffled at the outbursts of nastiness. It's not just Rowland.
From: Chris Ridd on 1 Jul 2010 12:32
On 2010-07-01 17:14:27 +0100, bella jonez said: > Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: >> On 2010-07-01, bella jonez <bellajonez(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote: >>>> Bella Jones <me9(a)privacy.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> OTOH you >>>> hardly did much for the image of a Mac user "community" or "clique" >>>> to >>>> give it its proper name. >>>> >>> >>> Was that directed at me personally? Just wondering! >> >> I doubt it. It's just Steve holding a mirror up to himself as usual. > > Again, I'm just baffled at the outbursts of nastiness. It's not just > Rowland. I do feel it is time to bring back the punishemnt fodler. Is it still around? -- Chris |