From: David Kennedy on 1 Jul 2010 01:08 Hugh Browton wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:03:51 +0100, Bella Jones wrote > (in article<1jkx8o9.tm8snu1fjz7e1N%me9(a)privacy.net>): > >> Dear good people of ucsm >> >> I'm not a big poster here any more, but I do pop in. For months now it's >> been wall to wall pointless self-referential rows with Rowland. > > In defence - no, not only that. You are of course right but, as Bella said, it's drowning out anything useful and, most days, I give up after a few posts. > > But I agree that it makes the place look small minded. > > Listen to Bella, fellow-ucsm-ers. > -- David Kennedy http://www.anindianinexile.com
From: Bella Jones on 1 Jul 2010 02:49 Hugh Browton <useneth@**.not.uk> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:03:51 +0100, Bella Jones wrote > (in article <1jkx8o9.tm8snu1fjz7e1N%me9(a)privacy.net>): > > > Dear good people of ucsm > > > > I'm not a big poster here any more, but I do pop in. For months now it's > > been wall to wall pointless self-referential rows with Rowland. > > In defence - no, not only that. > > But I agree that it makes the place look small minded. > > Listen to Bella, fellow-ucsm-ers. I don't mean it has been *only* that, but the last few months have been especially florid. It doesn't look good. Whether he intends it or not is immaterial - Rowland has become the uber-troll, and it's working. -- bellajonez at yahoo dot co dot uk
From: djp on 1 Jul 2010 03:25 me9(a)privacy.net (Bella Jones) wrote: > Hugh Browton <useneth@**.not.uk> wrote: > > > On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:03:51 +0100, Bella Jones wrote (in article > > <1jkx8o9.tm8snu1fjz7e1N%me9(a)privacy.net>): > > > > > Dear good people of ucsm > > > > > > I'm not a big poster here any more, but I do pop in. For months now > > > it's been wall to wall pointless self-referential rows with Rowland. > > > > In defence - no, not only that. > > > > But I agree that it makes the place look small minded. > > > > Listen to Bella, fellow-ucsm-ers. > > I don't mean it has been *only* that, but the last few months have been > especially florid. It doesn't look good. > > Whether he intends it or not is immaterial - Rowland has become the > uber-troll, and it's working. It certainly does not look good, there may, or may not, be an uber-troll on the loose but the damaging bit is the wall of posts from the vindictive and self-righteous giving him a good kicking. I have kill-filed the alleged uber-troll, a lot of his posts are responses to various jibes rather than substance, and I have also kill-filed references to the said uber-troll thereby getting rid of all the subsequent dross. The group becomes easier to read without the need to keep skipping over all the rubbish. -- djp
From: Jim on 1 Jul 2010 04:39 On 2010-07-01, Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote: >>> >>> TBH, I have a very good friend who was a new Mac user and came here >>> asking for help. He wasn't put off by the rows with Rowland. He was put >>> off by the supercilious, sneering attitude of several of the regular >>> posters - the obvious suspects. He left after a couple of days because >>> it was clear that he wasn't going to get any real help and he was going >>> to be patronised by people who consider themselves to be terribly clever >>> when they put someone down. >> >> Care to tell us who this was, so we can go back, take a look and assess the >> accuracy of this statement? > > I would hazard that some of his perceptions might partly be down to > usenet as a medium, and not being a web forum. But maybe something else > happened. Which is why I'd like to take a look at the original post and my own (if any) replies to it. Jim -- Twitter:@GreyAreaUK "If you have enough book space, I don't want to talk to you." Terry Pratchett
From: chris on 1 Jul 2010 05:20
On 01/07/10 08:25, djp wrote: > me9(a)privacy.net (Bella Jones) wrote: > >> Hugh Browton<useneth@**.not.uk> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:03:51 +0100, Bella Jones wrote (in article >>> <1jkx8o9.tm8snu1fjz7e1N%me9(a)privacy.net>): >>> >>>> Dear good people of ucsm >>>> >>>> I'm not a big poster here any more, but I do pop in. For months now >>>> it's been wall to wall pointless self-referential rows with Rowland. >>> >>> In defence - no, not only that. >>> >>> But I agree that it makes the place look small minded. >>> >>> Listen to Bella, fellow-ucsm-ers. >> >> I don't mean it has been *only* that, but the last few months have been >> especially florid. It doesn't look good. >> >> Whether he intends it or not is immaterial - Rowland has become the >> uber-troll, and it's working. > > It certainly does not look good, there may, or may not, be an uber-troll on > the loose but the damaging bit is the wall of posts from the vindictive and > self-righteous giving him a good kicking. > > I have kill-filed the alleged uber-troll, a lot of his posts are responses > to various jibes rather than substance, and I have also kill-filed > references to the said uber-troll thereby getting rid of all the subsequent > dross. > > The group becomes easier to read without the need to keep skipping over all > the rubbish. I'm mostly a lurker here, and kill-filing Rowland and James has made the place much easier to browse. But, like Bella said, if no-one responded then we'd all be happier. Esp. when some of the responders use broken newsreaders that only reference Rowland's and James's posts thereby showing up as new threads that I need to re-ignore. |