Do you think splicing 100' of wire onto a GTO exit wand would work?
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From: Dan Lanciani on 3 Feb 2010 01:44 In article <5e7f9a4682f97492d5b48c5e8369ea46(a)tioat.net>, dcdraftworks(a)Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid (Elmo) writes: | Do you think I can find a 4-conductor shielded 16 AWG cable splice kit at | ACE, OSH, or Home Depot? (I'll try later today.) I doubt it. Here is the kit I used to splice the cable to a similar vehicle detection wand about 15 years ago. It has worked fine since: http://www.homecontrols.com/Winland-Vehicle-Alert-Cable-Splice-Kit-WL1082 Note that this was just the first Google hit and you may be able to find it as a Winland product for less. Moreover, Winland probably doesn't actually make it so you might find a generic for even less again. Dan Lanciani ddl(a)danlan.*com
From: mm on 3 Feb 2010 01:50 On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 06:10:55 +0000 (UTC), Elmo <dcdraftworks(a)Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote: >On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:55:51 -0500, mm wrote: > > >>>she said the problem is that it will eventually break. >> >> No, it won't. Not if it's soldered correctly. >> Have you soldered much? > >I have a propane torch, a smaller butane torch with soldering tips, and the I like an electric soldering iron for soldering wires. It's not like soldering metal gutters. :) >Weller soldering station. I'm not all that good (I always seem to melt the >solder instead of heating the wires) but I'd consider myself ok with >solder. After 40 years I often melt the solder directly, but if you make sure it's hot before taking away the soldering iron, it's fine. > >> Of course you'll know where it is. It will be 50 feet from where you >> buried the wand. And about 100 feet from where the controller is. > >I could also look for an electrical connection type box (like the ones >used with the water sprinklers) and that way it would be obvious to all, >even any new owners. I wouldn't bother. >> Now, if you don't have an connector on the end of the wire, >> you could use heat-shrink tubing, >> I think the scotch 23, silicone tape will do a much better job. > >I think I'll solder in a compatible wire after finding that scotch 23 in a >local hardware store. My home depot didn't have it. http://www.rshughes.com/products/054007_13061.html?ref=g&refcp=froogle Some other websites had 50 or 100 roll minimums! >> BTW, are you near powerlines? Most places aren't but a few are. > >Yes There are overhead power lines. Why do you ask? The docs mentioned power lines. but if they are overhead they are probably too far away to matter.
From: William Sommerwerck on 3 Feb 2010 08:43 This has gone on long enough. As is true of most companies, the company selling this product is unable to give factual, useful information to the customer. (What else is new?) There is no reason why the people in this group -- or any other group -- should be obliged to make up for its failure to do so. It seems to me that the manufacturer should have supplied information about selecting the appropriate length of cable, according to the vehicle, the vehicle owner's needs, etc. It apparently did not. If the customer makes a mistake, then the company should DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, as I've suggested. If the company won't, then the owner has no recourse but to purchase a new cable or sensor-wand system. I don't see why this group should be expected to analyze an unfamiliar product and provide useful troubeshooting/modification/repair information, when the manufacturer won't. This problem cannot be new to the company. It ought to have some mechanism in place for resovling such issues. Apparently, it is too stupid to.
From: PeterD on 3 Feb 2010 09:23 On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 05:43:33 -0800, "William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer(a)comcast.net> wrote: >This has gone on long enough. > >As is true of most companies, the company selling this product is unable to >give factual, useful information to the customer. (What else is new?) There >is no reason why the people in this group -- or any other group -- should be >obliged to make up for its failure to do so. > >It seems to me that the manufacturer should have supplied information about >selecting the appropriate length of cable, according to the vehicle, the >vehicle owner's needs, etc. It apparently did not. If the customer makes a >mistake, then the company should DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, as I've suggested. > >If the company won't, then the owner has no recourse but to purchase a new >cable or sensor-wand system. > >I don't see why this group should be expected to analyze an unfamiliar >product and provide useful troubeshooting/modification/repair information, >when the manufacturer won't. This problem cannot be new to the company. It >ought to have some mechanism in place for resovling such issues. Apparently, >it is too stupid to. > I don't see the company at fault in the initial purchase. Also, only slightly at fault for conflicting advice from the telephone operator on splicing (which differed from the technician's advice, which is what I'd consider the be the accurate one...) If you think that companies should cover all their customer's errors and mistakes then I'd suggest you start a company and make that a feature of your operation. Maybe you'll have great success. But my experience, as a business man, has been that some people make errors, and it makes little sense to expect someone else to pay for their errors. As to not seeing 'why this group should...' realize that is the reason this group exists! After all, it is not called 'alt.home.repair.get.maker.to.replace.it' or 'sci.electroncs.leverage.the.company'. We concentrated on repairing the problem. Not trying to figure a way or justification to make the supplier (who did nothing wrong) to replace a product that was not defective or flawed.
From: PeterD on 3 Feb 2010 09:24
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:00:31 -0500, mm <NOPSAMmm2005(a)bigfoot.com> wrote: >On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:19:25 -0500, Meat Plow wrote: > >> >>>No. Soldering is better. The phone company doesn't want to spend the >>>time it takes to solder each connection, up to hundreds a day, and it >>>has a staff to go fix problems when they develop, as well as >>>electronic tools to find the break in a wire, by injecting a signal at >>>one end if necessary. >> >>Hey please stop cross posting this bullshit to SER. > >The trouble is, we don't know which group the OP is reading. We >don't know which group gets the "post" and which gets the cross post. > >I used to say which group I was posting from when I crosspostd, but no >one else seems to think of that. > >>Thanks. Please don't feed meathead the troll. He offers no advice just a total waste of bandwidth trolling for his 15 seconds of fame. |