Do you think splicing 100' of wire onto a GTO exit wand would work?
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From: mm on 3 Feb 2010 13:01 On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:42:30 -0500, mm <NOPSAMmm2005(a)bigfoot.com> wrote: > >Four conductor shielded wire shoudlnt' be easy to get. Typo. I meant it shouldnt' be hard to get. But maybe only mail-order (internet). And of course no one on any newsgroup is obliged to solve a poster's problems. People try because they want to be helpful and sometimes to show off their knowledge (or what they think is knowledge at the time of posting.) And I too considered returning the original cable. I asked if it had already been buried and was too dirty to return. And this question was definitely suitable for sci.eletronics.repair, because the only real question is at the electronics level. The question of how to connect two cables is just an inquiry about technique.
From: William Sommerwerck on 3 Feb 2010 13:08 > And I too considered returning the original cable. > I asked if it had already been buried and was too > dirty to return. I was told that if you contact customer service, they will make some sort of accomodation to help you. Give 'em a call.
From: Robert Macy on 3 Feb 2010 13:47 On Feb 2, 1:26 pm, mm <NOPSAMmm2...(a)bigfoot.com> wrote: ...snip... > No. Soldering is better. The phone company doesn't want to spend the > time it takes to solder each connection, up to hundreds a day, and it > has a staff to go fix problems when they develop, as well as > electronic tools to find the break in a wire, by injecting a signal at > one end if necessary. > ....snip... from PERSONAL experience: DON'T SOLDER LONG TERM CONNECTIONS! ESPECIIALLY OUTDOORS! Crimp, or constant mechanical pressure is BEST. And DON'T solder a crimp, you will ruin it. I made the mistake of soldering links in my security system. Now these solder joints were something to be proud of, too. Cleaned wire. Wrapped tightly together at the splice for at least 5 turns. Solder was high quality and not overheated during soldering. Solder shiny and wetting out for at least 1 inch. They lasted 10 years before I got hit with a false alarm. Then a month later another mysterious false alarm. Each time reset alarm system and all connections were good. Then went to every week. Until I went to all my soldered junctions and re-soldered them. Alarm worked for another 10 years, until, repeat. I never had to re-do my crimped connections. Being an arrogant college graduate, I did not listen to the "lowly" experienced security system installers who told me about crimping is better than soldering. I knew better. I thought they just were lazy, because careful soldering takes time and crimping is fast. I learned a very humbling experience from these experiences. By the way, a separate alarm system with links running outside the building, the soldered connections lasted only one year before false alarm. So, again, don't solder your connections. Crimp is best, because you have constant mechanical pressure between the conductors. Solder won't do that, all eases with time. Robert
From: Robert Macy on 3 Feb 2010 14:03 On Feb 2, 10:10 pm, Elmo <dcdraftwo...(a)Use-Author-Supplied- Address.invalid> wrote: > On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:55:51 -0500, mm wrote: > >>she said the problem is that it will eventually break. > > > No, it won't. Not if it's soldered correctly. > > Have you soldered much? > > I have a propane torch, a smaller butane torch with soldering tips, and the > Weller soldering station. I'm not all that good (I always seem to melt the > solder instead of heating the wires) but I'd consider myself ok with > solder. > > > Of course you'll know where it is. It will be 50 feet from where you > > buried the wand. And about 100 feet from where the controller is. > > I could also look for an electrical connection type box (like the ones > used with the water sprinklers) and that way it would be obvious to all, > even any new owners. > > > Now, if you don't have an connector on the end of the wire, > > you could use heat-shrink tubing, > > I think the scotch 23, silicone tape will do a much better job. > > I think I'll solder in a compatible wire after finding that scotch 23 in a > local hardware store. My home depot didn't have it. > > > BTW, are you near powerlines? Most places aren't but a few are. > > Yes There are overhead power lines. Why do you ask? Elmo, believe me. DON'T SOLDER YOUR UNDERGROUND CONNECTIONS. THEY WILL FAIL see my other post
From: Mike on 3 Feb 2010 14:21
On Feb 3, 8:43 am, "William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgee...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > This has gone on long enough. > No no no....this is the most entertaining thread I have read today. I love the earnestness of the OP. Mike |