Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 4 Aug 2008 18:48 On Aug 3, 10:42�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > On Aug 2, 11:44 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 7:51 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:> rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Aug 1, 7:34 am, ben_dolan_...(a)reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: > > > >> rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > >>> What makes a book fiction or non-fiction is the intent of the author or > > > >>> authors. A fiction book is an account of imaginary events. > > > >> Exactly so, and THAT is why the Bible is fiction. I'm glad you > > > >> understand that, you may be making progress. > > > > > The proclamation of an atheist has no real power. It does not change > > > > reality. > > > > And the proclamation of a religious nutter such as yourself has even > > > less power. It doesn't even acknowledge reality. > > > So why was I the one who acknowledged that Hezekiah's tunnel exists > > while atheists tried to claim that tour guides in Jerusalem were > > taking tourists through solid rock? > > Robert B. Winn > > This is another of your more persistent lies. �No-one said at any > stage that there is no tunnel. > > Al- Hide quoted text - > You continue to say that the Bible is nothing but mythology. If you say that the Bible is nothing but mythology, you are saying that the tunnel is mythology because the Bible describes the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel in three different books of the Old Testament. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 4 Aug 2008 18:52 On Aug 3, 10:54�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > On Aug 3, 6:16 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 11:57 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Aug 1, 8:29 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > >> rbwinn wrote: > > > >>> On Jul 31, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> Why don't we just wait for him before judging them then? > > > >>>>>>>> I happen to think that if anyone needs judging it is the liars and > > > >>>>>>>> hypocrites. But you don't see me campaigning to remove their human > > > >>>>>>>> rights. > > > >>>>>>> Well, yes, I do. Like other atheists you campaign for abortion, > > > >>>>>>> which removes the right to live of the people who are killed. > > > >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > > > >>>>>> Please show me evidence that I've campaigned for abortion. Because > > > >>>>>> that's a flat out lie. And is that your best effort at demonising > > > >>>>>> atheists? > > > >>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > > > >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > > > >>>>> Atheists have caused more abortions than any other group of people. > > > >>>> So, you can't show evidence where atheists (like Al) have campaigned for > > > >>>> abortion. You have lied. > > > >>>> -- > > > >>> Josef Stalin was an atheist like Al. While Josef Stalin was dictator > > > >>> of the Soviet Union, the number of abortions in Russia increased to > > > >>> about five per woman. > > > >>> In the People's Republic of China, women who have had one child are > > > >>> required by the state to abort any children conceived after the first > > > >>> child is born. > > > >> So, you have lied. > > > > > No, I did not lie. > > > > You said that Al campaigned for abortion. Are you going to provide > > > evidence for this? > > > Sure. �Ask Al if he is in favor of right to life. > > Robert B. Winn > > What does that have to do with whether I've campaigned for legal > abortions? > > Al- Hide quoted text - > Well, I am certainly sorry if I have misjudged you, Al. I think you are pro-abortion. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 4 Aug 2008 18:53 On Aug 3, 11:28�pm, hhyaps...(a)gmail.com wrote: > On Aug 3, 2:21 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 2, 9:38 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:14:24 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote > > > in alt.atheism: > > > > >On Aug 1, 3:35?pm, Matthew Johnson <matthew_mem...(a)newsguy.org> wrote: > > > >> In article <e41a1737-acad-4cdc-ae31-4f6523f32...(a)p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, > > > >> rbwinn says... > > > > >> >So what exactly is it > > > >> >that you are trying to do? > > > >> >Robert B. Winn > > > > >> I could ask you the same question, Robert. All you are doing is rattling cages. > > > >> You aren't actually accomplishing anything else. > > > > >> Worse yet, you are still crossposting. You posted this to all of the following > > > >> groups, whether you know it or not: > > > >> sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism. > > > > >> Crossposting is always irritating, so it is almost never the right thing to do. > > > >> It certainly isn't right here. Pick one group and stick with it. Pick one where > > > >> it is on topic. > > > > >> Finally, make sure you know how to use your news client. Do you know how to coax > > > >> it to display all the groups it is about to post to? Do you know how to turn OFF > > > >> crossposting? > > > > >Well, scientists were all done talking to me about the theory of > > > >relativity two years ago when I finally figured out how the Galilean > > > >transformation equations describe relativity of time If any > > > >scientists decide they want to talk to me, I would certainly rather > > > >talk to them than these atheists. > > > > You already demonstrated to us how confused you are in that area. > > > Please, don't bring it up again. Didn't you learn anything from those > > > who critiqued your 'work'?- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � �x'=x-vt > > � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � y'=y > > � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � z'=z > > � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � t'=t > > > � � � � � � � � � �w=velocity of light > > � � � � � � � � � � � � �x=wt > > � � � � � � � � � � � � � x'=wn' > > > � � � � � � � � � � � � �x'=x-vt > > � � � � � � � � � � � � �wn' = wt -vt > > � � � � � � � � � � � � � n'=t(1-v/w) > > > � � �w = x/t = x'/n' = (x-vt)/(t-vt/w) = (x-vt)/(t-vx/w^2) > > � � � � � �= (x-vt)gamma/(t-vx/c^2)gamma > > � � � � � � = x'Lorentz/t'Lorentz > > > �Robert B. Winn > > What are these nonsense? > If you want to put forward any formula, be very clear about every step > and what do they mean. > There is no head and no tail to the above, and certainly nothing in > between. > Do you see any physicist respond to you?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Anyone who took physics in high school should be able to follow these equations. Robert B. Winn
From: Steve O on 4 Aug 2008 18:54 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:147d2d46-ff33-4aac-b29a-7e24af243840(a)k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 3, 8:56�pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >> > On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> wrote >> >> in alt.atheism: >> >> >>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >>>> rbwinn wrote: >> >>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >>>>>> wrote >> >>>>>> in alt.atheism: >> >>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >> >>>>>> ... >> >>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. >> >>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? >> >>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the >> >>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. >> >>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. >> >>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. >> >>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim. >> >>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the >> >>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for >> >>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto >> >>> them, Peace be unto you. >> >>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of >> >>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. >> >>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now >> >>> caught. >> >>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great >> >>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so >> >>> many, yet was not the net broken. >> >>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples >> >>> durst >> >>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. >> >>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish >> >>> likewise. >> >>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his >> >>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. >> >> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted >> >> text - >> >> > The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. � >> >> For what kinds of cases? >> > For all kinds of cases. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as > evidence in the monkey trial. > Robert B. Winn All kinds if cases? You mean, "one type of case"? -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
From: rbwinn on 4 Aug 2008 18:59
On Aug 4, 12:00�am, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > On Aug 4, 1:05 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 2, 8:54 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:40:30 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote > > > in alt.atheism: > > > > >On Aug 1, 8:29?am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > >> rbwinn wrote: > > > >> > On Jul 31, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > >> >> rbwinn wrote: > > > > >> >>>>>> Why don't we just wait for him before judging them then? > > > >> >>>>>> I happen to think that if anyone needs judging it is the liars and > > > >> >>>>>> hypocrites. But you don't see me campaigning to remove their human > > > >> >>>>>> rights. > > > >> >>>>> Well, yes, I do. Like other atheists you campaign for abortion, > > > >> >>>>> which removes the right to live of the people who are killed.. > > > >> >>>>> Robert B. Winn > > > >> >>>> Please show me evidence that I've campaigned for abortion. Because > > > >> >>>> that's a flat out lie. And is that your best effort at demonising > > > >> >>>> atheists? > > > >> >>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > > > >> >>>> - Show quoted text - > > > >> >>> Atheists have caused more abortions than any other group of people. > > > >> >> So, you can't show evidence where atheists (like Al) have campaigned for > > > >> >> abortion. You have lied. > > > > >> >> -- > > > > >> > Josef Stalin was an atheist like Al. ?While Josef Stalin was dictator > > > >> > of the Soviet Union, the number of abortions in Russia increased to > > > >> > about five per woman. > > > >> > In the People's Republic of China, women who have had one child are > > > >> > required by the state to abort any children conceived after the first > > > >> > child is born. > > > > >> So, you have lied. > > > > >No, I did not lie. > > > > You lie to us all the time. This was one such example.- Hide quoted text - > > > So you are claiming that abortions in Russia did not increase while > > Josef Stalin was dictator of that country. > > Robert B. Winn > > Lies followed by misrepresenting what others say. �I'm assuming a > human who can still breathe can't be THAT stupid, so I assume you lie > with malice. > > Al- Hide quoted text - > You are just upset because Josef Stalin was so obvious about atheistic goals, Al. Robert B. Winn |