From: Ben Dolan on
Antares 531 <gordonlrDELETE(a)swbell.net> wrote:

> >>> Pilots who were bombing North Vietnam every day.
> >
> >> So, you admit to helping destroyers of human life.
> >
> >"I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning..."
> >
> >So indeed he is, by his own admission, a murderer of innocent women and
> >children. I don't know why he wastes his time on the Jesus bullshit
> >because it's clear he's going to hell when he dies. There's no other
> >fate for people like him.
> >
> Ben, what do you do for a living or as a hobby?

I work in an all night drive-thru liquor store. During the summer I also
sell illegal Mexican fireworks to local teenagers. On the weekends, I
enjoy watching my eight year old son play lawn darts with his friends.


> Are you certain that no spin-off effects from anything you've ever done
> have resulted in some person being killed or injured?

Gosh, I sure don't think so.


> When I was a kid, a neighbor left a gate open and his saddle horse
> wandered out into a nearby road. A fellow driving a convertible came
> along late that night and slammed into the horse, killing the horse
> and the driver. Did this make my neighbor a murderer?

According to the adherents of Jainism, yes it does.
From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) on
On Aug 2, 1:07 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote:
> On Aug 1, 8:14 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote:
>
> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:f012c137-ec7a-4f41-acf8-81a047bcb82d(a)8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >> Smiler,
> > > I never go to alt.atheism.
>
> > Idiot - you are never out of it.
> > Every time you hit that send button with alt.atheism in your headers, you go
> > there.
>
> > All I am doing is responding to posts in
>
> > > sci.physics and sci.physics.relativity.
> > > Robert B. Winn
>
> > And alt.atheism, cretin.
>
> I don't care what is in the headers. I have already told you how to
> avoid talking to me. Just take sci.physics and sci.physics.relativity
> out of the header. I never go to alt.atheism.
> Robert b. Winn

The issue is really that some of us really object to lies. And when
we see lies, we feel the need to publicly denounce them to the same
audience as they were originally disseminated to.

Al
From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) on
On Aug 2, 4:40 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote:
> On Aug 1, 8:29 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > rbwinn wrote:
> > > On Jul 31, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >> rbwinn wrote:
>
> > >>>>>> Why don't we just wait for him before judging them then?
> > >>>>>> I happen to think that if anyone needs judging it is the liars and
> > >>>>>> hypocrites. But you don't see me campaigning to remove their human
> > >>>>>> rights.
> > >>>>> Well, yes, I do. Like other atheists you campaign for abortion,
> > >>>>> which removes the right to live of the people who are killed.
> > >>>>> Robert B. Winn
> > >>>> Please show me evidence that I've campaigned for abortion. Because
> > >>>> that's a flat out lie. And is that your best effort at demonising
> > >>>> atheists?
> > >>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> > >>>> - Show quoted text -
> > >>> Atheists have caused more abortions than any other group of people.
> > >> So, you can't show evidence where atheists (like Al) have campaigned for
> > >> abortion. You have lied.
>
> > >> --
>
> > > Josef Stalin was an atheist like Al. While Josef Stalin was dictator
> > > of the Soviet Union, the number of abortions in Russia increased to
> > > about five per woman.
> > > In the People's Republic of China, women who have had one child are
> > > required by the state to abort any children conceived after the first
> > > child is born.
>
> > So, you have lied.
>
> No, I did not lie.
> Robert B. Winn

Yes you did. You said I campaigned for abortion. When asked about
it, you said Stalin and Mao created societies with a higher incidence
of abortion (with no cites), and suggested that this means I campaign
for abortions. Your thinking is disjointed and unconnected to itself.

Al
From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) on
On Aug 2, 4:48 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote:
> On Aug 1, 8:36 am, Matthew Johnson <matthew_mem...(a)newsguy.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article <6fgnigFb4q4...(a)mid.individual.net>, Steve O says...
>
> > >"rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message
> > >news:f012c137-ec7a-4f41-acf8-81a047bcb82d(a)8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> > >>> Smiler,
> > >> I never go to alt.atheism.
>
> > >Idiot - you are never out of it.
> > >Every time you hit that send button with alt.atheism in your headers, you go
> > >there.
>
> > > All I am doing is responding to posts in
> > >> sci.physics and sci.physics.relativity.
> > >> Robert B. Winn
>
> > >And alt.atheism, cretin.
>
> > Where the posts annoy the inmates, but they are at least on topic. They are most
> > certainly off-topic for sci.physics.
>
> Well, Matthew, I started talking to these atheists because no
> scientists wanted to discuss my derivation of the Lorentz equations.
>
> Robert B. Winn


No you didn't. Your first post in the thread was about the Bible, and
how it was a "trustworthy" source because it had sold lots of copies.
You will stop lying some time, won't you?

Al
From: Free Lunch on
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:39:18 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote
in alt.atheism:

>On Aug 3, 4:18?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:56:05 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote
>> in alt.atheism:
>>
>> >On Aug 3, 8:08?am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>> >> Which does not make them "pro-abortion".
>> >I would definitely consider that to be pro abortion.
>>
>> I consider you to be pro-dishonesty.
>>
>> Can you point to a single post that you made in which you did not make a
>> false claim.
>>
>> Keep making the LDS look bad, Mr. Winn. Keep making religion look bad.
>
>Well, all you have is an accusation without any proof.
>For my statement there is proof. There have been between one and two
>million abortions per year for every year since 1973 in the United
>States.

But that does not make your claim true.