Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 10 Aug 2008 19:58 On Aug 10, 8:19�am, "Stanford" <s...(a)nospam.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote > > > Well, you atheists claim to be able to make an exact copy of a human > > from human cells. > > Wrong again, atheism is not a claim of any sort, > "Atheism is characterized by an absence of belief in the existence of gods." > So you are saying that all of the people in medical science who are involved in cloning are devoutly religious. Robert B. Winn
From: Stanford on 10 Aug 2008 20:13 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:a5517c5b-bd07-4dc5-9778-926d84ae42a5(a)m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 10, 4:04�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> news:ebea8348-0adb-483b-a342-bc5f431497e8(a)r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Aug 10, 2:36 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> >>news:3a8943bc-713d-4cae-b105-c63cecb0830e(a)26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> > On Aug 10, 12:09 am, hhyaps...(a)gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> On Aug 9, 5:35 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> >news:4f79b964-3512-4992-bc67-6b9855148eef(a)26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> > > You think the tsunami was bad, wait until some real disasters >> >> >> > > happen. What the book of Revelation says is that atheists will >> >> >> > > curse >> >> >> > > God and die rather than repent of their sins. >> >> >> > > Robert B. Winn >> >> >> >> > We are fully aware that Robert has mental health problems. >> >> >> > However, I have heard supposedly sane and rational people say >> >> >> > much >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > same >> >> >> > thing as he says above. >> >> >> > Frightening isn't it? >> >> >> > Is there any way to distinguish a normal, healthy - minded person >> >> >> > from >> >> >> > a >> >> >> > sick one when both of them are saying more or less the same >> >> >> > thing? >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > Steve O >> >> >> > a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) >> >> >> > B.A.A.W.A. >> >> >> > Convicted by Earthquack >> >> >> > Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence >> >> >> >> Steve, >> >> >> I guess they came under the same indoctrination, and therefore same >> >> >> answers. >> >> >> Its is just utterly stupid to content that god will come out to >> >> >> save >> >> >> human, while at the same time periodically created disasters to >> >> >> kill >> >> >> the innocent people. >> >> >> It defies logic and make these loons stupidier than we can imagine. >> >> >> Sad as we see ancient tales can still con our digital people in the >> >> >> modern age.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> > Almost all of these disasters can be predicted if people take the >> >> > time >> >> > and effort to study the situation. >> >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> >> You really didn't follow what hhyaps was saying at all, did you? >> >> He made a very valid point- I'll simplify it for you. >> >> He was saying it was lunacy to believe that there was a God, who on >> >> one >> >> hand >> >> was there to save humans from harm, whilst at the same time destroying >> >> them >> >> with tsunamis. >> >> This has nothing to do with predicting disasters which is what you >> >> were >> >> babbling on about. >> >> > So you are claiming that if God protects people from all disasters, >> > then you will believe in him. >> >> No, I was saying that it is ridiculous to imagine that there is a God who >> "saves us" �whilst at the same time destroys us. >> What IS it with you and your reading comprehension problem? >> Very annoying. >> > So your idea is that no one should suffer physical death? > What other kind of death do animals (all us physical entities) experience?
From: Steve O on 10 Aug 2008 20:45 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:a5517c5b-bd07-4dc5-9778-926d84ae42a5(a)m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 10, 4:04�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> news:ebea8348-0adb-483b-a342-bc5f431497e8(a)r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Aug 10, 2:36 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> >>news:3a8943bc-713d-4cae-b105-c63cecb0830e(a)26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> > On Aug 10, 12:09 am, hhyaps...(a)gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> On Aug 9, 5:35 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> >news:4f79b964-3512-4992-bc67-6b9855148eef(a)26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> > > You think the tsunami was bad, wait until some real disasters >> >> >> > > happen. What the book of Revelation says is that atheists will >> >> >> > > curse >> >> >> > > God and die rather than repent of their sins. >> >> >> > > Robert B. Winn >> >> >> >> > We are fully aware that Robert has mental health problems. >> >> >> > However, I have heard supposedly sane and rational people say >> >> >> > much >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > same >> >> >> > thing as he says above. >> >> >> > Frightening isn't it? >> >> >> > Is there any way to distinguish a normal, healthy - minded person >> >> >> > from >> >> >> > a >> >> >> > sick one when both of them are saying more or less the same >> >> >> > thing? >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > Steve O >> >> >> > a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) >> >> >> > B.A.A.W.A. >> >> >> > Convicted by Earthquack >> >> >> > Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence >> >> >> >> Steve, >> >> >> I guess they came under the same indoctrination, and therefore same >> >> >> answers. >> >> >> Its is just utterly stupid to content that god will come out to >> >> >> save >> >> >> human, while at the same time periodically created disasters to >> >> >> kill >> >> >> the innocent people. >> >> >> It defies logic and make these loons stupidier than we can imagine. >> >> >> Sad as we see ancient tales can still con our digital people in the >> >> >> modern age.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> > Almost all of these disasters can be predicted if people take the >> >> > time >> >> > and effort to study the situation. >> >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> >> You really didn't follow what hhyaps was saying at all, did you? >> >> He made a very valid point- I'll simplify it for you. >> >> He was saying it was lunacy to believe that there was a God, who on >> >> one >> >> hand >> >> was there to save humans from harm, whilst at the same time destroying >> >> them >> >> with tsunamis. >> >> This has nothing to do with predicting disasters which is what you >> >> were >> >> babbling on about. >> >> > So you are claiming that if God protects people from all disasters, >> > then you will believe in him. >> >> No, I was saying that it is ridiculous to imagine that there is a God who >> "saves us" �whilst at the same time destroys us. >> What IS it with you and your reading comprehension problem? >> Very annoying. >> > So your idea is that no one should suffer physical death? > Robert B. Winn No. ~where did YOU get that idea from? -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
From: Stanford on 10 Aug 2008 20:48 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:8b87bb2b-d870-47c8-a646-110a073205bb(a)c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 10, 8:19�am, "Stanford" <s...(a)nospam.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote >> >> > Well, you atheists claim to be able to make an exact copy of a human >> > from human cells. >> >> Wrong again, atheism is not a claim of any sort, >> "Atheism is characterized by an absence of belief in the existence of >> gods." >> > > So you are saying ... > You maintain, "Atheists claim," I am simply pointing out the simple fact that you are wrong again, atheism is not a claim of any sort, "Atheism is characterized by an absence of belief in the existence of gods." -- http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/intro.html Got it now?
From: Steve O on 10 Aug 2008 20:47
"rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:8b87bb2b-d870-47c8-a646-110a073205bb(a)c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 10, 8:19�am, "Stanford" <s...(a)nospam.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote >> >> > Well, you atheists claim to be able to make an exact copy of a human >> > from human cells. >> >> Wrong again, atheism is not a claim of any sort, >> "Atheism is characterized by an absence of belief in the existence of >> gods." >> > > So you are saying that all of the people in medical science who are > involved in cloning are devoutly religious. > Robert B. Winn You keep using this expression, "So you are saying" ... then go on to say something completely ridiculous and having no bearing at all on what the person has actually said Why is that? -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence |