Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Steve O on 10 Aug 2008 07:32 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:ec47c18e-d44a-467b-941d-89e9d08afaed(a)k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >> No evidence for God or leprechauns. >> > > Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you would like to have > one. > Robert b. Winn The bible has leprechauns? -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
From: Steve O on 10 Aug 2008 07:33 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:3fc941fa-d9ef-41d0-aff1-38543cd85f1c(a)26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 9, 10:47�pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >> > On Aug 9, 10:12 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >> rbwinn wrote: >> >>> On Aug 9, 9:04 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >>>> rbwinn wrote: >> >>>>> On Aug 9, 8:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >> >>>>>>> On Aug 9, 6:23 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 9, 5:12 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 9, 4:06 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Aug, 15:07, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Aug, 08:10, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, he thinks that we ARE actively denying the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existence of the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tooth Fairy, leprechauns, the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fairies, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orcs...and any other fictional character you can >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly think of. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if atheists believe in the tooth Fairy, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leprechauns, the Easter >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bunny, Santa Claus, fairies, etc., here in the United >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> States you are >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free to have those beliefs. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where did anyone say that you weren't allowed to have >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> those beliefs? We >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't live in a theocracy, Winn. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> People I knew always encouraged me to have those beliefs. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It took a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> decisoon on my part to not have them. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Really? How did you first come to hear about God? >> >>>>>>>>>>> As I recall, from my parents. >> >>>>>>>>>> So, you were taught to have the God belief. >> >>>>>>>>> Absolutely. I did not know a thing when I was born. >> >>>>>>>> Is God-belief superior to leprechaun-belief? >> >>>>>>> God is real. Leprechauns are fictional. Why don't you decide for >> >>>>>>> yourself? It would be a good experience for you to make a >> >>>>>>> decision >> >>>>>>> for yourself. >> >>>>>> No evidence for God or leprechauns. >> >>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you would like to >> >>>>> have >> >>>>> one. >> >>>> Already got one. Read it cover to cover. >> >>>> Still no evidence for God or leprechauns, though. >> >>>> -- >> >>> So how did you like the book of Isaiah? >> >> Interesting, but I've read better books. >> >> > Isaiah is the best book in the Old Testament. >> >> Perhaps. �That's you opinion, though. �MY opinion is that there are >> better books. �Better than all the books in the Old and New Testaments, >> even. >> > Well, I prefer prophecy to most of what is written today. > Robert B. Winn What about modern prophecy? -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
From: Peacenik on 10 Aug 2008 07:35 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:6ebac961-54fd-4d97-859b-92ddee1cc040(a)m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... On Aug 9, 10:12�pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > > So how did you like the book of Isaiah? > > > > Interesting, but I've read better books. > > Isaiah is the best book in the Old Testament. I prefer the Song of Songs myself. Nevertheless, the Bible is just a book of myths. It's no more proof of Jehovah than the Vedas are proof of Vishnu.
From: Masked Avenger on 10 Aug 2008 07:56 rbwinn wrote: > On Aug 6, 2:08�am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> news:9bdcfe91-2a42-4b75-8582-4f87ed8bfac3(a)79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... >> >> � If the Bible exists, then it is evidence. �So does it exist or not? >> >> ========== >> >> At best iut is hearsay. > > No, it is not hearsay. > Robert B. Winn It must be ........ because NONE of it is contemporary eyewitness accounts ....... The first book of the New Testament wasn't written until at least 50 years after Jesus' alleged death ...... and the Gospels were not written by Matthew, Mark, Luke or John ........ Similarly ... how could Genesis be an eyewitness account ?? it is only hearsay ...... -- MA ....Yoiks .... and away ..... Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity .............. and I'm not sure about the Universe .......... - A. Einstein Does Schrödinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
From: rbwinn on 10 Aug 2008 09:11
On Aug 9, 10:47�pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Aug 9, 10:12 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Aug 9, 9:04 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Aug 9, 8:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Aug 9, 6:23 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 9, 5:12 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 9, 4:06 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Aug, 15:07, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Aug, 08:10, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, he thinks that we ARE actively denying the existence of the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tooth Fairy, leprechauns, the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, fairies, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orcs...and any other fictional character you can possibly think of. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if atheists believe in the tooth Fairy, leprechauns, the Easter > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bunny, Santa Claus, fairies, etc., here in the United States you are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free to have those beliefs. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where did anyone say that you weren't allowed to have those beliefs? We > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't live in a theocracy, Winn. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> People I knew always encouraged me to have those beliefs. It took a > >>>>>>>>>>>>> decisoon on my part to not have them. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Really? How did you first come to hear about God? > >>>>>>>>>>> As I recall, from my parents. > >>>>>>>>>> So, you were taught to have the God belief. > >>>>>>>>> Absolutely. I did not know a thing when I was born. > >>>>>>>> Is God-belief superior to leprechaun-belief? > >>>>>>> God is real. Leprechauns are fictional. Why don't you decide for > >>>>>>> yourself? It would be a good experience for you to make a decision > >>>>>>> for yourself. > >>>>>> No evidence for God or leprechauns. > >>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you would like to have > >>>>> one. > >>>> Already got one. Read it cover to cover. > >>>> Still no evidence for God or leprechauns, though. > >>>> -- > >>> So how did you like the book of Isaiah? > >> Interesting, but I've read better books. > > > Isaiah is the best book in the Old Testament. > > Perhaps. �That's you opinion, though. �MY opinion is that there are > better books. �Better than all the books in the Old and New Testaments, > even. > Isaiah is more accurate than any book of today when it comes to prophecy. It shows the key to prophecy better than any other book. Robert B. Winn |