Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 10 Aug 2008 01:44 On Aug 9, 10:12�pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Aug 9, 9:04 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Aug 9, 8:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Aug 9, 6:23 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Aug 9, 5:12 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 9, 4:06 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Aug, 15:07, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Aug, 08:10, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, he thinks that we ARE actively denying the existence of the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tooth Fairy, leprechauns, the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, fairies, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> orcs...and any other fictional character you can possibly think of. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if atheists believe in the tooth Fairy, leprechauns, the Easter > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bunny, Santa Claus, fairies, etc., here in the United States you are > >>>>>>>>>>>>> free to have those beliefs. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Where did anyone say that you weren't allowed to have those beliefs? We > >>>>>>>>>>>> don't live in a theocracy, Winn. > >>>>>>>>>>> People I knew always encouraged me to have those beliefs. It took a > >>>>>>>>>>> decisoon on my part to not have them. > >>>>>>>>>> Really? How did you first come to hear about God? > >>>>>>>>> As I recall, from my parents. > >>>>>>>> So, you were taught to have the God belief. > >>>>>>> Absolutely. I did not know a thing when I was born. > >>>>>> Is God-belief superior to leprechaun-belief? > >>>>> God is real. Leprechauns are fictional. Why don't you decide for > >>>>> yourself? It would be a good experience for you to make a decision > >>>>> for yourself. > >>>> No evidence for God or leprechauns. > >>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you would like to have > >>> one. > >> Already got one. Read it cover to cover. > > >> Still no evidence for God or leprechauns, though. > > >> -- > > So how did you like the book of Isaiah? > > Interesting, but I've read better books. > Isaiah is the best book in the Old Testament. Robert B. Winn
From: DanielSan on 10 Aug 2008 01:47 rbwinn wrote: > On Aug 9, 10:12�pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Aug 9, 9:04 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Aug 9, 8:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Aug 9, 6:23 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Aug 9, 5:12 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 9, 4:06 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Aug, 15:07, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Aug, 08:10, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, he thinks that we ARE actively denying the existence of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tooth Fairy, leprechauns, the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, fairies, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orcs...and any other fictional character you can possibly think of. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if atheists believe in the tooth Fairy, leprechauns, the Easter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bunny, Santa Claus, fairies, etc., here in the United States you are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free to have those beliefs. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where did anyone say that you weren't allowed to have those beliefs? We >>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't live in a theocracy, Winn. >>>>>>>>>>>>> People I knew always encouraged me to have those beliefs. It took a >>>>>>>>>>>>> decisoon on my part to not have them. >>>>>>>>>>>> Really? How did you first come to hear about God? >>>>>>>>>>> As I recall, from my parents. >>>>>>>>>> So, you were taught to have the God belief. >>>>>>>>> Absolutely. I did not know a thing when I was born. >>>>>>>> Is God-belief superior to leprechaun-belief? >>>>>>> God is real. Leprechauns are fictional. Why don't you decide for >>>>>>> yourself? It would be a good experience for you to make a decision >>>>>>> for yourself. >>>>>> No evidence for God or leprechauns. >>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you would like to have >>>>> one. >>>> Already got one. Read it cover to cover. >>>> Still no evidence for God or leprechauns, though. >>>> -- >>> So how did you like the book of Isaiah? >> Interesting, but I've read better books. >> > Isaiah is the best book in the Old Testament. Perhaps. That's you opinion, though. MY opinion is that there are better books. Better than all the books in the Old and New Testaments, even. -- **************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *--------------------------------------------------* * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * * can't eat it? * ****************************************************
From: rbwinn on 10 Aug 2008 02:26 On Aug 9, 10:47�pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Aug 9, 10:12 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Aug 9, 9:04 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Aug 9, 8:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Aug 9, 6:23 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 9, 5:12 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 9, 4:06 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Aug, 15:07, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Aug, 08:10, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, he thinks that we ARE actively denying the existence of the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tooth Fairy, leprechauns, the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, fairies, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orcs...and any other fictional character you can possibly think of. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if atheists believe in the tooth Fairy, leprechauns, the Easter > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bunny, Santa Claus, fairies, etc., here in the United States you are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free to have those beliefs. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where did anyone say that you weren't allowed to have those beliefs? We > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't live in a theocracy, Winn. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> People I knew always encouraged me to have those beliefs. It took a > >>>>>>>>>>>>> decisoon on my part to not have them. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Really? How did you first come to hear about God? > >>>>>>>>>>> As I recall, from my parents. > >>>>>>>>>> So, you were taught to have the God belief. > >>>>>>>>> Absolutely. I did not know a thing when I was born. > >>>>>>>> Is God-belief superior to leprechaun-belief? > >>>>>>> God is real. Leprechauns are fictional. Why don't you decide for > >>>>>>> yourself? It would be a good experience for you to make a decision > >>>>>>> for yourself. > >>>>>> No evidence for God or leprechauns. > >>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you would like to have > >>>>> one. > >>>> Already got one. Read it cover to cover. > >>>> Still no evidence for God or leprechauns, though. > >>>> -- > >>> So how did you like the book of Isaiah? > >> Interesting, but I've read better books. > > > Isaiah is the best book in the Old Testament. > > Perhaps. �That's you opinion, though. �MY opinion is that there are > better books. �Better than all the books in the Old and New Testaments, > even. > Well, I prefer prophecy to most of what is written today. Robert B. Winn
From: DanielSan on 10 Aug 2008 02:36 rbwinn wrote: > On Aug 9, 10:47�pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Aug 9, 10:12 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Aug 9, 9:04 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Aug 9, 8:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Aug 9, 6:23 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 9, 5:12 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 9, 4:06 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Aug, 15:07, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Aug, 08:10, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, he thinks that we ARE actively denying the existence of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tooth Fairy, leprechauns, the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, fairies, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orcs...and any other fictional character you can possibly think of. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if atheists believe in the tooth Fairy, leprechauns, the Easter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bunny, Santa Claus, fairies, etc., here in the United States you are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free to have those beliefs. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where did anyone say that you weren't allowed to have those beliefs? We >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't live in a theocracy, Winn. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People I knew always encouraged me to have those beliefs. It took a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decisoon on my part to not have them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really? How did you first come to hear about God? >>>>>>>>>>>>> As I recall, from my parents. >>>>>>>>>>>> So, you were taught to have the God belief. >>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely. I did not know a thing when I was born. >>>>>>>>>> Is God-belief superior to leprechaun-belief? >>>>>>>>> God is real. Leprechauns are fictional. Why don't you decide for >>>>>>>>> yourself? It would be a good experience for you to make a decision >>>>>>>>> for yourself. >>>>>>>> No evidence for God or leprechauns. >>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you would like to have >>>>>>> one. >>>>>> Already got one. Read it cover to cover. >>>>>> Still no evidence for God or leprechauns, though. >>>>>> -- >>>>> So how did you like the book of Isaiah? >>>> Interesting, but I've read better books. >>> Isaiah is the best book in the Old Testament. >> Perhaps. �That's you opinion, though. �MY opinion is that there are >> better books. �Better than all the books in the Old and New Testaments, >> even. >> > Well, I prefer prophecy to most of what is written today. It's not so much prophecy as fiction retconned as prophecy. -- **************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *--------------------------------------------------* * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * * can't eat it? * ****************************************************
From: hhyapster on 10 Aug 2008 03:09
On Aug 9, 5:35 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:4f79b964-3512-4992-bc67-6b9855148eef(a)26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... > > > > > You think the tsunami was bad, wait until some real disasters > > happen. What the book of Revelation says is that atheists will curse > > God and die rather than repent of their sins. > > Robert B. Winn > > We are fully aware that Robert has mental health problems. > However, I have heard supposedly sane and rational people say much the same > thing as he says above. > Frightening isn't it? > Is there any way to distinguish a normal, healthy - minded person from a > sick one when both of them are saying more or less the same thing? > > -- > Steve O > a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) > B.A.A.W.A. > Convicted by Earthquack > Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence Steve, I guess they came under the same indoctrination, and therefore same answers. Its is just utterly stupid to content that god will come out to save human, while at the same time periodically created disasters to kill the innocent people. It defies logic and make these loons stupidier than we can imagine. Sad as we see ancient tales can still con our digital people in the modern age. |