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From: Sylvia Else on 21 May 2010 00:25 On 21/05/2010 1:52 AM, D Yuniskis wrote: > I no longer buy on eBay as it has become too pricey. Especially > the shipping charges from many sellers. I've bought a couple of bits of second-hand hardware that, after I'd given the seller positive feedback, turned out to be flakey, so I tend to think carefully before going down that path now. But Ebay can be useful for finding obscure items that ordinary stores don't sell. Caveat-emptor is definitely the appropriate expression. Sylvia.
From: D Yuniskis on 21 May 2010 00:44 Hi Sylvia, Sylvia Else wrote: > On 21/05/2010 1:52 AM, D Yuniskis wrote: > >> I no longer buy on eBay as it has become too pricey. Especially >> the shipping charges from many sellers. > > I've bought a couple of bits of second-hand hardware that, after I'd > given the seller positive feedback, turned out to be flakey, so I tend > to think carefully before going down that path now. Yeah, "feedback" is a stupid concept. Sort of like filing a police report in 80 characters (or less). I had pretty good results with my eBay purchases. But, that was soon after eBay was born. I've not used my account in probably a decade (?) > But Ebay can be useful for finding obscure items that ordinary stores > don't sell. Caveat-emptor is definitely the appropriate expression. Yes, for oddball items. Unfortunately, I think many people use eBay as a "general store" and buy things there that they can probably find locally -- if they *looked* (though I can understand that many folks might not want to invest the time, etc.)
From: Sylvia Else on 21 May 2010 03:24 On 21/05/2010 11:57 AM, Bart! wrote: > On Fri, 21 May 2010 01:00:14 +1000, Sylvia Else > <sylvia(a)not.at.this.address> wrote: > >> On 20/05/2010 10:55 PM, Bart! wrote: >>> On Thu, 20 May 2010 18:13:43 +1000, Sylvia Else >>> <sylvia(a)not.at.this.address> wrote: >>> >>>> On 20/05/2010 5:14 PM, Bart! wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 20 May 2010 07:33:42 +0100, "TTman"<someone.pc(a)ntlworld.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Bill Bowden"<wrongaddress(a)att.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:def5cd9e-7839-4505-b1c0-e14f7b2464ca(a)40g2000vbr.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>> I have bought a few items on Ebay with good transactions, and was >>>>>>> recently looking at a true sinewave inverter (12 volt DC to 120 VAC) >>>>>>> 300 watt Continuous, 600 watt peak, and so I bid $60 maximum but was >>>>>>> outbid by $7 and lost the auction. I then noticed the same item was >>>>>>> for sale again in just a few hours (maybe 18) and so I bid again with >>>>>>> a limit of $60 and again lost the auction with a final bid of $65. And >>>>>>> so I bid again on the same item with same limit of $60 and was outbid >>>>>>> again at $61.12. And then bid again for the 4th time on the same item, >>>>>>> and again lost the auction for $61.00, just $1.00 more than my limit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The seller appears to have a good feedback record, but this auction >>>>>>> looks like somebody is bidding against me just to drive the price up, >>>>>>> and always wins the auction by bidding $1 more than my limit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I do understand the new 300 watt sinewave inverter is worth more than >>>>>>> $60, probably in the $200 range, so maybe this is just standard >>>>>>> practice to weed out the low bidders? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But it still seems to be a violation of Ebay (shill) policies. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Bill >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sounds like maybe the seller is bidding ( with an alias) to avoid a low >>>>>> value sale.... >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But, he would still owe ebay their commission for EACH sale. So, he is >>>>> a complete and utter retard for bidding on his own item, and IF ebay >>>>> allows him to "remove" the sale internally after it has already been >>>>> "sold" from an online observation perspective, they are breaking their >>>>> own rules. >>>>> >>>>> I would report the fact that the item went up 4 times over, and that the >>>>> bidding/sale result looks quite suspicious since the item is listed as >>>>> the only one he has to sell. >>>> >>>> The seller doesn't have to list multiple items in one auction if he >>>> doesn't want to. >>> >>> That is NOT what I said. >>> >>> They do not have to list them in multiple auctions either, dumbass. >>> They can put them up one at a time, which is the appearance this idiot >>> gives. The behavior, however, shows that he is re-selling the same item. >> >> Why does it? He sells one, he lists a new one. Perfectly normal. >> >> Sylvia. > > It is NOT "normal" if the "next" one he lists is actually the same item > he claims to have just sold. > > Come back when you have a clue. How can you tell it's the same item? Mass production has been around for a long time. Sylvia.
From: Bart! on 21 May 2010 04:55 On Fri, 21 May 2010 17:24:59 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia(a)not.at.this.address> wrote: > Mass production has been around for >a long time. Your IQ has been down for along time.
From: Sylvia Else on 21 May 2010 05:44
On 21/05/2010 6:50 PM, Bart! wrote: > On Fri, 21 May 2010 14:15:38 +1000, Sylvia Else > <sylvia(a)not.at.this.address> wrote: > >> >> If you're going to confine you bids to the last seconds, then you only >> get to make one bid for practical purposes. > > > Sorry, but that did not used to be true. In the past it was possible > to bid about five to seven times in the last 15 seconds. If one waited > until ten or five, it was still easy to get two or three in. All with > high likelihood of being the last bid. Why on Earth would you want to bid multiple times in the space of 15 seconds? What benefit is there in being the last to bid? Sylvia. |