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From: Bart! on 22 May 2010 00:19 On Sat, 22 May 2010 13:15:07 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia(a)not.at.this.address> wrote: >They would certainly complain about that. They would not know. One must "get their bid in IN TIME." Do you get it now?
From: Bart! on 22 May 2010 00:20 On Sat, 22 May 2010 13:15:07 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia(a)not.at.this.address> wrote: >atomic Something 'atomic' should go off near you. Go chew on a few smoke detectors. Sheesh.
From: D Yuniskis on 22 May 2010 00:39 Hi Bill, Bill Bowden wrote: >>>>> I have bought a few items on Ebay with good transactions, and was >>>>> recently looking at a true sinewave inverter (12 volt DC to 120 VAC) >>>>> 300 watt Continuous, 600 watt peak, and so I bid $60 maximum but was >>>>> outbid by $7 and lost the auction. I then noticed the same item was >>>>> for sale again in just a few hours (maybe 18) and so I bid again with >>>>> a limit of $60 and again lost the auction with a final bid of $65. And >>>>> so I bid again on the same item with same limit of $60 and was outbid >>>>> again at $61.12. And then bid again for the 4th time on the same item, >>>>> and again lost the auction for $61.00, just $1.00 more than my limit. >>>>> The seller appears to have a good feedback record, but this auction >>>>> looks like somebody is bidding against me just to drive the price up, >>>>> and always wins the auction by bidding $1 more than my limit. >>>>> I do understand the new 300 watt sinewave inverter is worth more than >>>>> $60, probably in the $200 range, so maybe this is just standard >>>>> practice to weed out the low bidders? >>>>> But it still seems to be a violation of Ebay (shill) policies. >>>>> -Bill >>>> Sounds like maybe the seller is bidding ( with an alias) to avoid a low >>>> value sale.... >>> Yes, it looks like that. I see the same item listed 8 times with >>> various bids ranging from one cent to $32 and quite a few apparent >>> bidders . But there is one listing to "Buy it Now" at $125. I suspect >>> $125 is the going price and any lower bids are automatically outbid by >>> a shill of some sort. >> If the seller ends up winning the auction, then he has to pay the >> commission on it to Ebay without actually having sold anything. As >> strategy, it makes no sense. >> >> The seller can avoid that by retracting their winning shill bid. If your >> bid was outbid, and that other bid is retracted, and followed by another >> bid a bit below your maximum, then you have grounds for suspicion. >> Otherwise no. > > Time will tell. I just placed another bid on the same item for $62.50 > and I imagine I will lose another auction for $62.60. It's still > listed to "buy it now" for $125 in a different listing. I can't > imagine the seller giving it away for half that. > > On the brighter side, Ebay has refunded my money for another > transaction where the seller did not respond to messages, nor > delivered the item. I got my money back today. Score 1 for Ebay!! Where are you located, Bill? I come across these sorts of things pretty often (I assume you are just looking for an inverter? Or, do you want an entire UPS?) and can probably send one to you for the cost of shipping... --don
From: Sylvia Else on 22 May 2010 00:34 On 22/05/2010 2:19 PM, Bart! wrote: > On Sat, 22 May 2010 13:15:07 +1000, Sylvia Else > <sylvia(a)not.at.this.address> wrote: > >> They would certainly complain about that. > > > They would not know. > > One must "get their bid in IN TIME." Is a week earlier "in time"? Sylvia.
From: Bart! on 22 May 2010 05:25
On Sat, 22 May 2010 14:34:40 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia(a)not.at.this.address> wrote: >On 22/05/2010 2:19 PM, Bart! wrote: >> On Sat, 22 May 2010 13:15:07 +1000, Sylvia Else >> <sylvia(a)not.at.this.address> wrote: >> >>> They would certainly complain about that. >> >> >> They would not know. >> >> One must "get their bid in IN TIME." > >Is a week earlier "in time"? > >Sylvia. In the time between my last bid and the chronological close of the auction, ditz. That is your problem. You are a chronological dumbshit. |