From: George Hammond on

"Tom Capizzi" <etianshrdlu(a)verizon.net> wrote in message
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> > [Hammond]
> > CITE YOUR CV OR GET OFF THIS THREAD:
> > CITE YOUR CV OR GET OFF THIS THREAD:
> > CITE YOUR CV OR GET OFF THIS THREAD:
> > CITE YOUR CV OR GET OFF THIS THREAD:
> >
>
> You jackass! You have no authority to demand anything of..

[hAMMOND]
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> > ========Hammond's CV==============
> >
> > B.S. Physics 1964, Worcester Polytechnic Institute
> > Worcester MA, USA (Deans List)
> > M.S. Physics 1967, Northeastern University,
> > Boston MA, USA
> > Ph.D. Candidate and Teaching Fellow in Physics, 1967-68
> > Northeastern Univ. Boston MA
> > Note: Studied Relativity under Prof. Richard Arnowitt at
> > N.U. who is now a Distinguished Professor at TAMU
> >
> > Peer reviewed publications:
> >
> > Hammond G.E (1994) The Cartesian Theory, in
> > New Ideas In Psychology, Vol 12(2) 153-167
> > Pergamon Press.
> > Hammond G.E.(2003) A Semiclassical Theory of God
> > Noetic Journal, Vol 4(3) July 2003, pp 231-244(Noetic Press)
> >
> > ====================================
> > SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
> > http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
> > mirror site:
> > http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
> > ====================================
> > Join COSA church (Church of the Scientific Advent)
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>


From: Etienne Rouette on
"George Hammond" <nowhere1(a)nospam.net> a ýcrit dans le message de news:
TcL0e.7988$S46.7799(a)newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> [Hammond]
> Schornak is an uneducated German truck driver from Danzig
> who never attended college and can't even read physics.
> On the other hand.... his expenditure of so much energy
> certainlyu shows he takes the discovery of a scientific proof
> of God SERIOUSLY.... which is more than you halfwits
> are able to do. and don't think the public doesn't realize
> it.

For the record: are _we_ the public? Just thought I'd ask.

Etienne Rouette


From: apieceofstring on
George Hammond wrote:
> <apieceofstring(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1111634444.977858.205300(a)o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
> > George Hammond wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > > Seriously though.
> > > > One person may percieve 12 frames per second.... another may
> > percieve
> > > > 30... but by all accounts reality actually progresses at
millions
> > of
> > > > frames per second -- if it's discreet at all, which is an open
> > > > question.
> > > > So by that logic, reality isn't 15% invisible, it's 99.9%
> > invisible!
> > >
> > > [Hammond]
> > > Wrong logic. It's like having a lo-pass filter
> > > over your entire sensory system. You can't notice
> > > that small twich, that small glint in the eye before
> > > the gunslinger slaps leather... and you wind up in
> > > boot hill with a lot of other suckers who thought
> > > they were "fast".
>
>
> > </snip>
> >
> > So where is God in that analogy? Is he the gunsmith? Boot hill? The
> > small twitch?
>
> [Hammond]
> God is higher speed.

That seems like a very abstract way to define God.
What is divine about higher speed?
Why not just say "higher speed is faster"?

I mean, a TV plays at 30 frames a second (in north america anyway) or
60 fields per second, which is way faster than human perception.
So a TV is an example of higher speed -- but a TV is clearly not an
example of God (well... maybe for some, but that's a separate problem
;) ).

So... I don't think I'm catching your meaning there. I assume "god is
higher speed" was intended as an allegory for some deeper observation,
but it's lost on me. Can you put it in simple terms please?

<snipping ahead... >
> That's why people go to church. Learning what God is,
> and the fact that it will "quicken your flesh", is what
> Religion is all about... in case no one ever told you.

Actually this is all news to me... and I'm still not sure if I
understand.
Are you saying people go to church in order to think faster?
Or so they can learn that people who think faster than them are closer
to god than they are?
Or so they can learn that they are closer to god than people who think
slower than them?
Or something else entirely?

And are you sure this is true? I'm an atheist but I've had a lot of
conversations with religious people -- many of whom have tried to
convert me -- and none of them said anything about brain speed in their
pitch. Why not?

<snipping ahead...>

> [Hammond]
> No my website (wch. includes my PEER-PUBLISHED papers)
> is the alleged proof of God. Why don't you read it?

So far you haven't convinced me that it's worth my time.
I don't mean that offensively. You know how it is; these days
_everybody_ wants you to read their site / fanfiction / scripture, and
it usually turns out to be a dissappointment. So unfortunately I can't
afford to give the benefit of the doubt.
But if you can give me a compelling synopsis of your theory, then I'll
visit your site.

Besides, it makes for a better thread that way. If the newsgroup was
just a bunch of people plugging their sites, then one might as well
skip the newsgroup altogether and just google.
<snip rest>

From: Apocalypso Now on
In recent years, there's been a change in direction in treating severe
psychotics and schizophrenics; the pendulum is moving back toward harsher
methods like electroshock therapy. After dealing with George, I can
completely understand why that shift is occurring.

Delusions:

What is characteristic of the schizophrenic, especially during an acute
period, is that the conviction is fixed and alternate explanations for the
events experienced are not even considered. Arguing with a delusion only
leads to further mistrust or anger. The beliefs are tenaciously held,
against all reason, and they are held only by the person himself and by no
one else.

Preoccupations:

These are fixed ideas, not necessarily false (like delusions) but
overvalued. That means they take on extraordinary importance and take up an
inordinate amount of thought time. Sometimes these preoccupations have a
mystifying character to them. They seem to require puzzling over and
decoding. The schizophrenic patient spends much time in this kind of
activity and that is why he thinks he has solved mysteries that others
haven't, since they have spent no time at it. When lost in thought,
schizophrenics do not want to be distracted. They feel they have important
work to do to try and come to the bottom of the puzzle.


"George Hammond" <nowhere1(a)nospam.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Tom Capizzi" <etianshrdlu(a)verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:hTI0e.19559$I16.567(a)trndny03...
>
> > > [Hammond]
> > > CITE YOUR CV OR GET OFF THIS THREAD:
> > > CITE YOUR CV OR GET OFF THIS THREAD:
> > > CITE YOUR CV OR GET OFF THIS THREAD:
> > > CITE YOUR CV OR GET OFF THIS THREAD:
> > >
> >
> > You jackass! You have no authority to demand anything of..
>
> [hAMMOND]
> CITE YOUR CV JACKASS OR GET OFF THIS THREAD
> CITE YOUR CV JACKASS OR GET OFF THIS THREAD
> CITE YOUR CV JACKASS OR GET OFF THIS THREAD
> CITE YOUR CV JACKASS OR GET OFF THIS THREAD
> CITE YOUR CV JACKASS OR GET OFF THIS THREAD
> CITE YOUR CV JACKASS OR GET OFF THIS THREAD
> CITE YOUR CV JACKASS OR GET OFF THIS THREAD
> CITE YOUR CV JACKASS OR GET OFF THIS THREAD
>
>
>
> > > ========Hammond's CV==============
> > >
> > > B.S. Physics 1964, Worcester Polytechnic Institute
> > > Worcester MA, USA (Deans List)
> > > M.S. Physics 1967, Northeastern University,
> > > Boston MA, USA
> > > Ph.D. Candidate and Teaching Fellow in Physics, 1967-68
> > > Northeastern Univ. Boston MA
> > > Note: Studied Relativity under Prof. Richard Arnowitt at
> > > N.U. who is now a Distinguished Professor at TAMU
> > >
> > > Peer reviewed publications:
> > >
> > > Hammond G.E (1994) The Cartesian Theory, in
> > > New Ideas In Psychology, Vol 12(2) 153-167
> > > Pergamon Press.
> > > Hammond G.E.(2003) A Semiclassical Theory of God
> > > Noetic Journal, Vol 4(3) July 2003, pp 231-244(Noetic Press)
> > >
> > > ====================================
> > > SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
> > > http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
> > > mirror site:
> > > http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
> > > ====================================
> > > Join COSA church (Church of the Scientific Advent)
> > > Send a blank email to COSAchurch(a)hotmail.com
> > > and your email address will be added to the
> > > COSA discussion list (free, no obligation)
> > > ====================================
> > > and please ask your news service to add:
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> > > ===================================
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


From: George Hammond on

<apieceofstring(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1111726276.980668.315310(a)f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> George Hammond wrote:
> > <apieceofstring(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1111634444.977858.205300(a)o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > George Hammond wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > > Seriously though.
> > > > > One person may percieve 12 frames per second.... another may
> > > percieve
> > > > > 30... but by all accounts reality actually progresses at
> millions
> > > of
> > > > > frames per second -- if it's discreet at all, which is an open
> > > > > question.
> > > > > So by that logic, reality isn't 15% invisible, it's 99.9%
> > > invisible!
> > > >
> > > > [Hammond]
> > > > Wrong logic. It's like having a lo-pass filter
> > > > over your entire sensory system. You can't notice
> > > > that small twich, that small glint in the eye before
> > > > the gunslinger slaps leather... and you wind up in
> > > > boot hill with a lot of other suckers who thought
> > > > they were "fast".
> >
> >
> > > </snip>
> > >
> > > So where is God in that analogy? Is he the gunsmith? Boot hill? The
> > > small twitch?
> >
> > [Hammond]
> > God is higher speed.
>
> That seems like a very abstract way to define God.
> What is divine about higher speed?
> Why not just say "higher speed is faster"?

[Hammond]
You got a lot to learn dude.
Religion says there exists an "invisible world"..
they are correct... and science has now explained
what it is and why it is invisible. People who are more
fully grown can of course see more of it (see more
of reality) while as much as 10 to 20% of reality is
actually INVISIBLE to you and the average man.
Bear in mind you DON'T KNOW THIS... have no
IDEA such a thing exists... but the Church does, and
has known it for millenia... and now science has proved
it.
the fact that 15-20% of the average man's "mental
speed" is missing... means that what he is looking at
is NOT "true reality"... and believe it or not this is
the cause of ALL of the world's problems... depression,
death, failure, crime, war, poverty... you name it...
The phenomena is so huge, so universal and so
important.... it is called "God".
Of course.... most people have no des[erate need to
know about this and generally never even bother to
find out about it.... despite the fact there is a Church on
every street corner trying to tell them about it.
However.... there ARE millions of people in the world,
including those in high places... who DO have a need
to know about it.



> I mean, a TV plays at 30 frames a second (in north america anyway) or
> 60 fields per second, which is way faster than human perception.
> So a TV is an example of higher speed -- but a TV is clearly not an
> example of God (well... maybe for some, but that's a separate problem
> ;) ).

[Hammond]
there are cameras that can take a million frames per second
(i.e. can photograph a bullet in flight)... so what... what does
that have to do with PEOPLE.... bear in mind "God" is a
phenomena which only effects LIVING ORGANISMS...
such as you and me.... not t.v. cameras.


>
> So... I don't think I'm catching your meaning there. I assume "god is
> higher speed" was intended as an allegory for some deeper observation,
> but it's lost on me. Can you put it in simple terms please?
>

[Hammond]
I have tried to put it in simple terms above. If you are not
up to your "full grown speed".... a significant portion
of the world is INVISIBLE to you, which means you are
not seeing "true reality".... and that is what the subject of
"God" is all about.... the fact that no one can see "true reality".






> <snipping ahead... >
> > That's why people go to church. Learning what God is,
> > and the fact that it will "quicken your flesh", is what
> > Religion is all about... in case no one ever told you.
>
> Actually this is all news to me... and I'm still not sure if I
> understand.
> Are you saying people go to church in order to think faster?

[Hammond]
they go to find out that there is an "invisible world" and what
kind of an impact that has on human behavior, history and
society... and how to deal with it.


> Or so they can learn that people who think faster than them are closer
> to god than they are?
> Or so they can learn that they are closer to god than people who think
> slower than them?
> Or something else entirely?
>
> And are you sure this is true? I'm an atheist but I've had a lot of
> conversations with religious people -- many of whom have tried to
> convert me -- and none of them said anything about brain speed in their
> pitch. Why not?

[Hammond]
they don't know about it..... the discovery of a provable and
measureable "scientific proof of God" is NEW... I only
published it in 2003..... they haven't even heard about it yet.
Consider yourself in on the ground floor.... you're probably
5-10 years ahead of the rest of the world.







>
> <snipping ahead...>
>
> > [Hammond]
> > No my website (wch. includes my PEER-PUBLISHED papers)
> > is the alleged proof of God. Why don't you read it?
>
> So far you haven't convinced me that it's worth my time.

[Hammond]
Hey... I could care less. Of what help could you possible
be to me?


> But if you can give me a compelling synopsis of your theory, then I'll
> visit your site.

[Hammond]
Naw..... you're not worth it... I don't give "private tutorials"
to mere "curiosity seekers".... for chrissakes my time is
worth a thousand dollars an hour!
So, take it or leave it.... and p.s. don't chew up valuable bandwidth
posting a reply saying "I'll leave it".... we've got enough
amateurs chewing up bandwidth as it is.
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