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From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 23 Feb 2010 10:32 On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:48:09 GMT, Martin S Taylor <mst(a)hRyEpMnOoVtEiTsHm.cIo.uSk> wrote: >Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote >>> Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote >>>> I read >>>> the "Pre-game show" post about 3.1.3 and thought "Actually, that's >>>> fine, and covers all cases clearly". >>> >>> What's that, then? >> >> Second post on the iphone-dev.org front page. > >Hmm... It's sentences like: > >Superbowl Sunday�s PwnageTool 3.1.5 for Mac OS X will let you do so safely, >preserving your jailbreak and ultrasn0w unlock. �(If you use the blacksn0w >unlock (at baseband 05.11.07), you need to stay at 3.1.2.) > >which worry me. What's an ultrasn0w unlock? It's the carrier unlocker for 3GS phones. It's available in Cydia, and automatically applied by PwnageTools. >How is it different from a >blacksn0w unlock, or indeed any other kind? How do I know which I'm using? In >fact, since I'm with O2, how can I tell if my phone is unlocked at all? Which >version of baseband am I using, and how do I find out? If you're using a legit carrier, you don't need a carrier unlock. So you (as in *you* rather than generic) can ignore all references to them. >There's a big need for a site which answers these questions in terms an >intelligent but uninformed person can grasp. http://www.hacktheiphone.com/ covers an awful lot. Cheers - Jaimie -- Thank you for your input. Now, if you have something substantive to bring to the discussion, kindly do. Otherwise, isn't there an eternal flamefest that would peter out if you won't keep feeding it? -- Cosmin Corbea, r.a.b
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 23 Feb 2010 10:50 On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:32:06 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote: >On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:48:09 GMT, Martin S Taylor ><mst(a)hRyEpMnOoVtEiTsHm.cIo.uSk> wrote: > >>There's a big need for a site which answers these questions in terms an >>intelligent but uninformed person can grasp. > >http://www.hacktheiphone.com/ covers an awful lot. And inside Cydia, the "Upgrading to 3.x.x? Read This" on the front screen is pretty informative too. Cheers - Jaimie -- "No, no, you're not thinking, you're just being logical." - Niels Bohr
From: Jim on 24 Feb 2010 04:55 On 2010-02-24, Martin S Taylor <mst(a)hRyEpMnOoVtEiTsHm.cIo.uSk> wrote: > > Yes, just like me. Except you seem to understand it better. > > (I have one niggle; I'm still using a 2G iPhone, so life is easy. But it's > wearing out, and I will need a new iPhone soon. Do I wait until the expected > new release in June and get the fantastic new iPhone which is rumoured to be > coming out then? Or do I get a 3GS now, when I *know* I can jailbreak it? > Decisions, decisions...) Just to muddy the waters a wee bit, there's also the prospect of iPhone OS 4.0, which (a) will probably need a whole new set of Jailbreaking code, and (b) may in some cases get rid of the -need- to Jailbreak. If OS4.0 allows users to replace the system sounds then I'm personally not going to need to Jailbreak, as that's all I ever use it for. Jim -- http://www.ursaMinorBeta.co.uk http://twitter.com/GreyAreaUK "Get over here. Now. Might be advisable to wear brown trousers and a shirt the colour of blood." Malcolm Tucker, "The Thick of It"
From: Woody on 24 Feb 2010 05:25 Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > On 2010-02-24, Martin S Taylor <mst(a)hRyEpMnOoVtEiTsHm.cIo.uSk> wrote: > > > > Yes, just like me. Except you seem to understand it better. > > > > (I have one niggle; I'm still using a 2G iPhone, so life is easy. But it's > > wearing out, and I will need a new iPhone soon. Do I wait until the expected > > new release in June and get the fantastic new iPhone which is rumoured to be > > coming out then? Or do I get a 3GS now, when I *know* I can jailbreak it? > > Decisions, decisions...) > > Just to muddy the waters a wee bit, there's also the prospect of iPhone OS > 4.0, which (a) will probably need a whole new set of Jailbreaking code, and > (b) may in some cases get rid of the -need- to Jailbreak. If OS4.0 allows > users to replace the system sounds then I'm personally not going to need to > Jailbreak, as that's all I ever use it for. I must admit I wouldn't like to go back to not having SBSettings. I like proSwitcher, but I could do without it, but SBSettings is not something I would want to lose. -- Woody
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 24 Feb 2010 05:40
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:47:56 GMT, Martin S Taylor <mst(a)hRyEpMnOoVtEiTsHm.cIo.uSk> wrote: >Now I'm using Blackrain, and as far as I recall it's a jailbreaker, not an >unlocker. > >I don't suppose 'rain' jailbreaks and 'snow' unlocks? That would be too easy, >wouldn't it? Yes, that's entirely correct. PwnageTools is also primarily a jailbreaker, but because it's a complete OS builder, will automatically include the correct carrier unlock for your particular phone if you answer "no" to the "do you have an iPhone contract that would activate normally through iTunes?" question. And if you say "yes" then change your mind, you need to add an unlocker at a later date through Cydia. >>>>> How do I know which I'm using? >> >> You can back-derive it from the method you used to jailbreak. > >But if you just apply PwnageTool it doesn't tell you which one it's applying, >does it? (checks) Nope, no mention at all. Tch. >I unlocked my phone ages ago using impossibly complicated methods. Then, when >pwnage came along, I unlocked using that. Now I don't need unlocking I just >jailbreak using blackra1n. Am I unlocked or not? Do I care? With a 1st gen, you're unlocked - there's no need for a special tool for it, all the jailbreakers unlock the 1st gen directly. >And is there any way for me to know which version of the baseband I have in >my phone? That's the hard bit: when the instructions say "If you're still on >baseband XYZ.123 and are using greensn0w, then you must NOT under ANY >CIRCUMSTANCES... etc. etc." http://www.hackthatphone.com/firmware.html points you to Settings/General/About, the "Modem Firmware" at the bottom is the baseband. That those are synonyms isn't obvious though. >Yes, just like me. Except you seem to understand it better. More practice, since I had to research it again for the 3GS last year. >(I have one niggle; I'm still using a 2G iPhone, so life is easy. But it's >wearing out, and I will need a new iPhone soon. Do I wait until the expected >new release in June and get the fantastic new iPhone which is rumoured to be >coming out then? Or do I get a 3GS now, when I *know* I can jailbreak it? >Decisions, decisions...) I would wait until the next version. You'll always be able to get a 3GS from the vast stock that gets released by upgraders, plus legitimate carrier unlock is now available from at O2 for free for contract owners (though you pay out your contract of course) or �15 for PAYG. Cheers - Jaimie -- Communicating badly and then acting smug when you're misunderstood is not cleverness. -- http://xkcd.com/169 |